Benedict Cristobal is gone

Agree with K9 and Ethnic here. I have to imagine that the Miami gig is his dream job. In fact, I always figured he would be head coach here at some point. Is he really stupid enough to **** that opportunity away to become OL coach at Bama bc Saban is offering him some more money? WTF does that say about his ability to envision his future, his decision-making, etc.?

He can't be that much of a fool and idiot...right?

Why would he take the interview if he wasn't interested in the job? Does UM ABSOLUTELY NO GOOD for it's alum Assoc. HC that it just hired a month ago to tell the world that Alabama's so much better that he'd be wiling to take an interview despite being a UM alum who was just hired a month ago. This is a major clusterf@ck.
 
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I'm going to qualify my criticism to an extent. Sounds like he gave AG a heads up. If this was Mario just taking an interview because it bolsters his 'rep' and maybe helps him seem sought after so he's in the mix for future high profile openings, and he doesn't intend to take it, and AG is okay with him doing it, then it's a meh to me. The key is whether AG supported him taking the interview for real (not just on the surface).

However, anyone saying this is 'professional courtesy' to Saban is a moran. You don't owe someone an interview. You can politely decline.

I seriously doubt that Al is good with this act of treason unless he's a total schmoe.

You may be right, but it depends on what their discussion was. I'm having a hard time seeing how Mario taking this interview isn't an insane decision unless he basically told Al hey, I'm going to go meet him, but am not going to take the position seriously, and Al believed him.

Mario making this lateral move at this time shows himself to be a total prick and burns bridges in Miami, which he presumably doesn't want to do, and would know.

Mario taking the interview under circumstances where Al is anything less than comfortable with him doing it, then _not_ taking the Saban job shows himself to be an idiot as he's going to have burnt himself in Al's eyes (who could trust him at that point?). And he should know that.

So my scenarios are Mario's a scumbag, Mario's an idiot, or Al gave him his blessing.

I prefer to think he's not an idiot. So if as expected he doesn't take the job ... well, maybe it just wasn't that big a deal.

Not sure the job was offered to him. But his silence after the interview is deafening. If he truly wasn't serious about taking the job, then he would have shut it down very quickly after the interview.

I'm pretty sure Fredo's a total scumbag (especially in light of all of his dalliances while at fiu and his sudden firing, which isn't probably as one-sidedly dumb as originally thought), and I'm equally pretty sure that Al isn't a schmoe and really has no interest in having the Associate HC that he just hired a month ago run off to suck Saban's dyck. The only thing that comes from that publicly is that Alabama is the better program, and it's so much better that the Associate HC, who is a UM alum and was just hired a month ago, is interviewing there for a lateral move. It's a big deal because it puts UM in a far inferior light publicly.

Chise, Im with you comrade, lets hope this is all a part of a bigger plan. But this is alarming to me. I want Miami Men( and this is from someone who never was a Miami student, but if you cant understand our viewpoint, well, **** you) you either ride or die, with us.

As someone who has kept in touch with a good number of the guys from the glory days that love this program, if you feel any different, well, choke on a big one...
 
I'm going to qualify my criticism to an extent. Sounds like he gave AG a heads up. If this was Mario just taking an interview because it bolsters his 'rep' and maybe helps him seem sought after so he's in the mix for future high profile openings, and he doesn't intend to take it, and AG is okay with him doing it, then it's a meh to me. The key is whether AG supported him taking the interview for real (not just on the surface).

However, anyone saying this is 'professional courtesy' to Saban is a moran. You don't owe someone an interview. You can politely decline.

I seriously doubt that Al is good with this act of treason unless he's a total schmoe.

You may be right, but it depends on what their discussion was. I'm having a hard time seeing how Mario taking this interview isn't an insane decision unless he basically told Al hey, I'm going to go meet him, but am not going to take the position seriously, and Al believed him.

Mario making this lateral move at this time shows himself to be a total prick and burns bridges in Miami, which he presumably doesn't want to do, and would know.

Mario taking the interview under circumstances where Al is anything less than comfortable with him doing it, then _not_ taking the Saban job shows himself to be an idiot as he's going to have burnt himself in Al's eyes (who could trust him at that point?). And he should know that.

So my scenarios are Mario's a scumbag, Mario's an idiot, or Al gave him his blessing.

I prefer to think he's not an idiot. So if as expected he doesn't take the job ... well, maybe it just wasn't that big a deal.

Not sure the job was offered to him. But his silence after the interview is deafening. If he truly wasn't serious about taking the job, then he would have shut it down very quickly after the interview.

I'm pretty sure Fredo's a total scumbag (especially in light of all of his dalliances while at fiu and his sudden firing, which isn't probably as one-sidedly dumb as originally thought), and I'm equally pretty sure that Al isn't a schmoe and really has no interest in having the Associate HC that he just hired a month ago run off to suck Saban's dyck. The only thing that comes from that publicly is that Alabama is the better program, and it's so much better that the Associate HC, who is a UM alum and was just hired a month ago, is interviewing there for a lateral move. It's a big deal because it puts UM in a far inferior light publicly.

I can't say you're wrong, just trying to make sense of this.

If Mario doesn't take the Alabama job, he's basically torched as an assistant at UM before he even begins as an assistant at UM. That's weird, ****ed up, and pathetic. Al will think he's a prick. He'll be out recruiting half heartedly, and he'll be gone before next December.

I'm just trying to give the ****wad the benefit of the doubt, I guess. Because if he doesn't deserve it, this is truly lame. The guy's supposed to be all about Miami. His wife is some hottie with seven boyfriends within two blocks of the Hecht Center, and moving her would upset her delicate state of mind. He's got two houses here, just so he doesn't have to sleep in the same house as her when she's with a boyfriend. He's very much a local guy. And he played here, and supposedly has aspirations of longer-term options at the U.

Against all that, this trip to Tuscaloosa makes no sense, unless, as I said, it was okay with Al. Doesn't mean it was. Just means Mario's an idiot if it wasn't (in addition to a prick).
 
Im not naive, I understand the nature of this profession, but can we have some 'Miami Men'? Please?

Guys like Soldinger, Kehoe and the like( yeah, I know they aren't perfect) who love the U, understand it's not always about the bottom line. Who give everything they have to this program. Maybe Im naive, but I care about loyalty and the greater good. Mercenaries belong elsewhere, like Bo Schemblecher wanted 'Michigan Men' I want Miami Men

And c'mon, its not like Cristobal is making minumum wage, far from that. Is it too much too ask for one f'n year?!?! If it is, then I'm just a pollyanna

Golden has had chances to leave, he's stayed steadfast. I still remember the look on his face when the Shapiro stuff broke. But here he still is at UM, that's my guy. I ride and die with him( till he does me wrong)

I hope Mario is that same guy....

Good stuff, Steve. But Fredo's already proven he's not that guy by taking the interview a month into his "tenure" here. I guess all that UM fans can hope for is that he doesn't get the job and no other lateral openings become available between now and the beginning of the season. I'd be done with the guy if I was Al.

Chise, I hear ya, just as I dont want coaches who dont want to be Hurricanes, the same for players. But its' amazing, guys like Duke Johnson who dont' really dont get paid a dime( at least over the table, legally) show their loyalty to the program, individuals who get paid 20 times what others get paid, still put their selves up to the highest bidder

Again, Im just a sap. shame on me

But gimme guys who care about this program.... like Alfred James Golden and those players who go brick by brick...
 
Im not naive, I understand the nature of this profession, but can we have some 'Miami Men'? Please?

Guys like Soldinger, Kehoe and the like( yeah, I know they aren't perfect) who love the U, understand it's not always about the bottom line. Who give everything they have to this program. Maybe Im naive, but I care about loyalty and the greater good. Mercenaries belong elsewhere, like Bo Schemblecher wanted 'Michigan Men' I want Miami Men

And c'mon, its not like Cristobal is making minumum wage, far from that. Is it too much too ask for one f'n year?!?! If it is, then I'm just a pollyanna

Golden has had chances to leave, he's stayed steadfast. I still remember the look on his face when the Shapiro stuff broke. But here he still is at UM, that's my guy. I ride and die with him( till he does me wrong)

I hope Mario is that same guy....

Good stuff, Steve. But Fredo's already proven he's not that guy by taking the interview a month into his "tenure" here. I guess all that UM fans can hope for is that he doesn't get the job and no other lateral openings become available between now and the beginning of the season. I'd be done with the guy if I was Al.

I would also keep an eye out for this Coley cat.
He worked for Saban at l$u and with the Fins.
Perhaps he recommended Cristabama to Saban as a favor to both.
And perhaps Saban has an understanding with Coley that he will be his
next OC whenever that position opens up.
Something smells here.
 
I'm going to qualify my criticism to an extent. Sounds like he gave AG a heads up. If this was Mario just taking an interview because it bolsters his 'rep' and maybe helps him seem sought after so he's in the mix for future high profile openings, and he doesn't intend to take it, and AG is okay with him doing it, then it's a meh to me. The key is whether AG supported him taking the interview for real (not just on the surface).

However, anyone saying this is 'professional courtesy' to Saban is a moran. You don't owe someone an interview. You can politely decline.

I seriously doubt that Al is good with this act of treason unless he's a total schmoe.

You may be right, but it depends on what their discussion was. I'm having a hard time seeing how Mario taking this interview isn't an insane decision unless he basically told Al hey, I'm going to go meet him, but am not going to take the position seriously, and Al believed him.

Mario making this lateral move at this time shows himself to be a total prick and burns bridges in Miami, which he presumably doesn't want to do, and would know.

Mario taking the interview under circumstances where Al is anything less than comfortable with him doing it, then _not_ taking the Saban job shows himself to be an idiot as he's going to have burnt himself in Al's eyes (who could trust him at that point?). And he should know that.

So my scenarios are Mario's a scumbag, Mario's an idiot, or Al gave him his blessing.

I prefer to think he's not an idiot. So if as expected he doesn't take the job ... well, maybe it just wasn't that big a deal.

Not sure the job was offered to him. But his silence after the interview is deafening. If he truly wasn't serious about taking the job, then he would have shut it down very quickly after the interview.

I'm pretty sure Fredo's a total scumbag (especially in light of all of his dalliances while at fiu and his sudden firing, which isn't probably as one-sidedly dumb as originally thought), and I'm equally pretty sure that Al isn't a schmoe and really has no interest in having the Associate HC that he just hired a month ago run off to suck Saban's dyck. The only thing that comes from that publicly is that Alabama is the better program, and it's so much better that the Associate HC, who is a UM alum and was just hired a month ago, is interviewing there for a lateral move. It's a big deal because it puts UM in a far inferior light publicly.

I can't say you're wrong, just trying to make sense of this.

If Mario doesn't take the Alabama job, he's basically torched as an assistant at UM before he even begins as an assistant at UM. That's weird, ****ed up, and pathetic. Al will think he's a prick. He'll be out recruiting half heartedly, and he'll be gone before next December.

I'm just trying to give the ****wad the benefit of the doubt, I guess. Because if he doesn't deserve it, this is truly lame. The guy's supposed to be all about Miami. His wife is some hottie with seven boyfriends within two blocks of the Hecht Center, and moving her would upset her delicate state of mind. He's got two houses here, just so he doesn't have to sleep in the same house as her when she's with a boyfriend. He's very much a local guy. And he played here, and supposedly has aspirations of longer-term options at the U.

Against all that, this trip to Tuscaloosa makes no sense, unless, as I said, it was okay with Al. Doesn't mean it was. Just means Mario's an idiot if it wasn't (in addition to a prick).

If he takes the Alabama job after one month at Miami, there are no long term aspirations at the U. Can guarantee you we will make sure of that.
 
Im not naive, I understand the nature of this profession, but can we have some 'Miami Men'? Please?

Guys like Soldinger, Kehoe and the like( yeah, I know they aren't perfect) who love the U, understand it's not always about the bottom line. Who give everything they have to this program. Maybe Im naive, but I care about loyalty and the greater good. Mercenaries belong elsewhere, like Bo Schemblecher wanted 'Michigan Men' I want Miami Men

And c'mon, its not like Cristobal is making minumum wage, far from that. Is it too much too ask for one f'n year?!?! If it is, then I'm just a pollyanna

Golden has had chances to leave, he's stayed steadfast. I still remember the look on his face when the Shapiro stuff broke. But here he still is at UM, that's my guy. I ride and die with him( till he does me wrong)

I hope Mario is that same guy....

Good stuff, Steve. But Fredo's already proven he's not that guy by taking the interview a month into his "tenure" here. I guess all that UM fans can hope for is that he doesn't get the job and no other lateral openings become available between now and the beginning of the season. I'd be done with the guy if I was Al.

I would also keep an eye out for this Coley cat.
He worked for Saban at l$u and with the Fins.
Perhaps he recommended Cristabama to Saban as a favor to both.
And perhaps Saban has an understanding with Coley that he will be his
next OC whenever that position opens up.
Something smells here.

Coley > Cristobal at this point as far as loyalty to the U is concerned.
 
I still think this is a Golden move ... I say Golden told Mario to put his name out there or at least be receptive. Take interviews. Put Miami out there. Alabama the #1 team this decade trying to poach a Miami coach. Miami coach says no thank you ... Win for Miami. I guarantee you Golden and Mario discussed this before accepting the interview.

Let's hope your little conspiracy theory pans out.
 
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If he doesn't take the job, how does that look good for Bammer and bad for Miami?

And why would you interview him, if not to offer him the job? Loaded 2014 SFL class coming up, absurd OL talent on squad already not needing a ton of coaching up. It screams 'Put ace recruiter here' for one or two years. I'd be shocked if he weren't offered the job.

And if he doesn't take it, I don't see the interview as a bad thing for Miami at all. I find the hand-wringing in this thread to be pretty amusing. Miami TE coach interview for Bama OL job and says no? Great! Are we not supposed to beat those guys? To paraphrase the Don.

Until/If he takes the lateral move. Then, **** him. But I don't think he does.
 
Im not naive, I understand the nature of this profession, but can we have some 'Miami Men'? Please?

Guys like Soldinger, Kehoe and the like( yeah, I know they aren't perfect) who love the U, understand it's not always about the bottom line. Who give everything they have to this program. Maybe Im naive, but I care about loyalty and the greater good. Mercenaries belong elsewhere, like Bo Schemblecher wanted 'Michigan Men' I want Miami Men

And c'mon, its not like Cristobal is making minumum wage, far from that. Is it too much too ask for one f'n year?!?! If it is, then I'm just a pollyanna

Golden has had chances to leave, he's stayed steadfast. I still remember the look on his face when the Shapiro stuff broke. But here he still is at UM, that's my guy. I ride and die with him( till he does me wrong)

If correct, Golden will have been played more than Miami fans were played by the Shalala/Shannon "coaching search".

I hope Mario is that same guy....

Good stuff, Steve. But Fredo's already proven he's not that guy by taking the interview a month into his "tenure" here. I guess all that UM fans can hope for is that he doesn't get the job and no other lateral openings become available between now and the beginning of the season. I'd be done with the guy if I was Al.

I would also keep an eye out for this Coley cat.
He worked for Saban at l$u and with the Fins.
Perhaps he recommended Cristabama to Saban as a favor to both.
And perhaps Saban has an understanding with Coley that he will be his
next OC whenever that position opens up.
Something smells here.

If correct, Golden will have been played more than Miami fans were played by the Shalala/Shannon "coaching search".
 
This site has quickly gone for ****** with some of the comments in here. Some of the posters in here act like this is the wwe.

"Maybe he has an understanding to be oc" "well he has no loyalty"

These are grown men and jobs not wwe story lines
 
Im not naive, I understand the nature of this profession, but can we have some 'Miami Men'? Please?

Guys like Soldinger, Kehoe and the like( yeah, I know they aren't perfect) who love the U, understand it's not always about the bottom line. Who give everything they have to this program. Maybe Im naive, but I care about loyalty and the greater good. Mercenaries belong elsewhere, like Bo Schemblecher wanted 'Michigan Men' I want Miami Men

And c'mon, its not like Cristobal is making minumum wage, far from that. Is it too much too ask for one f'n year?!?! If it is, then I'm just a pollyanna

Golden has had chances to leave, he's stayed steadfast. I still remember the look on his face when the Shapiro stuff broke. But here he still is at UM, that's my guy. I ride and die with him( till he does me wrong)

I hope Mario is that same guy....

Good stuff, Steve. But Fredo's already proven he's not that guy by taking the interview a month into his "tenure" here. I guess all that UM fans can hope for is that he doesn't get the job and no other lateral openings become available between now and the beginning of the season. I'd be done with the guy if I was Al.

I would also keep an eye out for this Coley cat.
He worked for Saban at l$u and with the Fins.
Perhaps he recommended Cristabama to Saban as a favor to both.
And perhaps Saban has an understanding with Coley that he will be his
next OC whenever that position opens up.
Something smells here.

Yup. I am still skeptical about coley. He's a stop gap short term hire, IMO.

There's a funky dynamic going on with golden/coley/Mario/d'onofrio. I can't put my finger on it but there's a lot of cooks in the kitchen, as it were.
 
So when spring practice starts and Mario is out coaching the kids up on Greentree instead of getting a bigger and more prestigious NFL paycheck are you all going to be saying the same ****?

Not surprised that in your rush to be a holier than thou condescending **** that you missed the point. Perhaps in your world, a guy taking interviews for less than lateral moves a month after being hired by his alma mater is no big deal. Most people don't see it that way.

And not surprised you're jumping off the cliff at first word and whining like a little *****. Lets see how this plays out and find out the real backstory before we cut his brake lines, ok?

It's all Internet and fish wrapper gossip right now with the boards filling in the blanks with conjecture. It all came from a 247 writeup, right? we can agree on that right? Maybe this is all actually bull****. That IS a possibility right?

We don't know Golden's perspective. Maybe AG is totally fine with it as EthnicSands said and its a meh non-story while you're busy torching Cristobals house.

Maybe its not working out and Golden told him to look around. Or maybe Golden told him to take the interview and turn Alabama down in order to prop Miami like Ackcane said. ****, maybe he sent him up there to bring back Gonnella and some BBQ!! Not quite ready to cap his knees quite yet. But you go ahead and get frantic and tough on a message board. I'd rather wait and see what pops out before I lose my ****, regardless of the epilogue.
 
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It sounds so extremely ridiculous, but I cant lie, the Coley thing feels weird. I keep reminding myself that if ****ery were afoot, it would make him completely un-hireable after the next stop.
 
So when spring practice starts and Mario is out coaching the kids up on Greentree instead of getting a bigger and more prestigious NFL paycheck are you all going to be saying the same ****?

Not surprised that in your rush to be a holier than thou condescending **** that you missed the point. Perhaps in your world, a guy taking interviews for less than lateral moves a month after being hired by his alma mater is no big deal. Most people don't see it that way.

And not surprised you're jumping off the cliff at first word and whining like a little ****. Lets see how this plays out and find out the real backstory before we cut his brake lines, ok?

It's all Internet and fish wrapper gossip right now with the boards filling in the blanks with conjecture. It all came from a 247 writeup, right? we can agree on that right?

We don't know Golden's perspective. Maybe this is all actually bull****. That IS a possibility right?

Maybe its not working out and Golden told him to look around. Or maybe Golden told him to take the interview and turn Alabama down in order to prop Miami like Ackcane said. ****, maybe he sent him up there to bring back Gonnella and some BBQ!! Not quite ready to cap his knees quite yet. But you go ahead and get frantic and tough on a message board. I'd rather wait and see what pops out before I lose my ****, regardless of the epilogue.

The high-pitched ***gy voice of reason. You think you come off evolved with your "let's wait and see" approach, but you're nothing but a schmoe. How's Saban's ******** taste, bumb?

LULZ at Golden telling Fredo to interview with Alabama and then turn it down. The damage is already done publicly when an alum, who was just hired a month ago, expresses interest in a lateral move. If the point was to make a big public show that he's not interested, he would have done it already.
 
It sounds so extremely ridiculous, but I cant lie, the Coley thing feels weird. I keep reminding myself that if ****ery were afoot, it would make him completely un-hireable after the next stop.

Now Coley is catching collateral damage here????:). He just spurned his alma mater before LOI day to come home to Miami.

This place is in a full meltdown.

Message boards. Lol.
 
Im not naive, I understand the nature of this profession, but can we have some 'Miami Men'? Please?

Guys like Soldinger, Kehoe and the like( yeah, I know they aren't perfect) who love the U, understand it's not always about the bottom line. Who give everything they have to this program. Maybe Im naive, but I care about loyalty and the greater good. Mercenaries belong elsewhere, like Bo Schemblecher wanted 'Michigan Men' I want Miami Men

And c'mon, its not like Cristobal is making minumum wage, far from that. Is it too much too ask for one f'n year?!?! If it is, then I'm just a pollyanna

Golden has had chances to leave, he's stayed steadfast. I still remember the look on his face when the Shapiro stuff broke. But here he still is at UM, that's my guy. I ride and die with him( till he does me wrong)

I hope Mario is that same guy....

Good stuff, Steve. But Fredo's already proven he's not that guy by taking the interview a month into his "tenure" here. I guess all that UM fans can hope for is that he doesn't get the job and no other lateral openings become available between now and the beginning of the season. I'd be done with the guy if I was Al.

I would also keep an eye out for this Coley cat.
He worked for Saban at l$u and with the Fins.
Perhaps he recommended Cristabama to Saban as a favor to both.
And perhaps Saban has an understanding with Coley that he will be his
next OC whenever that position opens up.
Something smells here.

I put nothing past this crew, especially when it was supposedly Fredo who linked Al up with Coley. This whole thing stinks to high heaven at this point. I LOL at the guys claiming Fredo slinking off to Tuscaloosa and then refusing to comment once he got caught is some sort of publicity stunt in UM's favor.
 
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