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Legit concerns.I don't feel comfortable with the line, but King likely not being 100% and potentially not playing at all makes the line make some sense. Add in the fact that the run defense was atrocious and Bama is setup to run the ball as well as anyone else.
doesn't matter. no way a team with that much new blood should beat us by 18+ game 1! can't happen.Seems like half the Bama team is S.FL recruits and we all know how they love an opportunity to sht on Miami. This is what has me concerned the most whenever S.FL players get an opportunity to play vs us they seem to ball out.
At what point do we say Nesta is overrated? He hasn't really done much of anything.I think Ford and Nesta are a more talented combo at DT than McIntosh and Norton
He's already over rated in terms of what his high school ranking was. However, that doesn't mean he's not a solid contributor to this team.At what point do we say Nesta is overrated? He hasn't really done much of anything.
@DMoney where do you rank him as far as our tackles go (forget whether 1-tech or 3-tech, just overall)? What is the word on him?
Ok, take off the orange and green glasses. I’ll leave it at that.
You taking the points? If so, kindly give a short breakdown as to why (and don’t just O/G glasses me and tell me how canes roll).
I haven’t bet it, but 18 seems like a lot with the Bama returning production being such an issue.
it opened around -17, but Circa opened -13.5 and it immediately got hit hard and moved to around -17. My guess is there’s lots of pros trying to middle that 14-17.
IDK, to me, 18 is a lot. I don’t wear the glasses. Bama has a new QB, OC, and basically all skill players. Yes, they are nasty athletes, but 18 is a lot IMO.
thoughts? Respectfully request that any response has an opinion to support the conclusion.
Good analysis, and I am pretty much in agreement. I guess I'm just leaning toward our "ifs" happening rather than theirs, mainly because of returning production. But yes, it is Manny v. Saban, and they are loaded with pro talent. Could be a blowout for sure.If we're taking the orange and green glasses off and you could get me to bet against my team, I'd take bama and the points easy right now. We may return a lot from last year but last years team got freight trained by the team that got freight trained by the team that got freight trained by bama. I just don't think we're on their level or even close yet. They out talent Miami at almost every position and they are built to dominate in the trenches and I'm pretty sure they're gonna do just that. King, I love the guy and what he brings but he's hurt and this will be the second year in a row with no spring practice for the King/Lash combo jam. I hope he comes into fall camp 110% because we'll need his play making ability and leadership badly to stay within 3 td's. The bottom line is we're looking to make a huge step up while hoping that they take a big step back. I'd have to bet big on Manny and I'm nowhere near ready to do that. He may be good at making adjustments but that just means he wasn't ready in the first place. For 15 years I keep looking for Miami to step up in a big game and out side of ND 17 they just haven't done it. bama has given up more than 20 points in their opener one time since 2010. I'll guess bama 45-17 right now.
If I were to bet this game it would be at the last minute and a full fall practice where King just balls out and I hear about 6/8 transferring because they'll never see the field again and the young receivers are dominating.
I'll take Miami in every game after bama.
Miami "if"
better receiver play
better dl play even after having two drafted in first and second round
way better lb play
Bolden returns to early season form
Mallory can step way up
way way better ol play
King is 100% and gets better at the deep ball
bama "if"
they can't replace what they lost
they aren't as dominate as they have been
the offensive coaching takes a big step back
if you think were better than the 09 VT team take the points if not take the safe bet and unfortunately go with saban against the canes.Ok, take off the orange and green glasses. I’ll leave it at that.
You taking the points? If so, kindly give a short breakdown as to why (and don’t just O/G glasses me and tell me how canes roll).
I haven’t bet it, but 18 seems like a lot with the Bama returning production being such an issue.
it opened around -17, but Circa opened -13.5 and it immediately got hit hard and moved to around -17. My guess is there’s lots of pros trying to middle that 14-17.
IDK, to me, 18 is a lot. I don’t wear the glasses. Bama has a new QB, OC, and basically all skill players. Yes, they are nasty athletes, but 18 is a lot IMO.
thoughts? Respectfully request that any response has an opinion to support the conclusion.
That FSU game has entered my mind several times. I haven't gone back to watch the highlights or read a recap, but I remember FSU being right there with them, and I think their starting QB got hurt in the 2nd half, which sealed it (it may have been too late to come back anyways, but I remember it being a game).If CFB were plug and play every year, this would be an easy bet,
but there's too many unknowns on the Bama side other than the fact that they're loaded with talent.
Bama beat FSU in '17 on special teams and defense. FSU also had 3 turnovers.
The game will be "relatively" low scoring unless we give them the short field or get burned a few times over the top if their running game gets going.
For the purposes of this thread i'm thinking a game similar to the ND/Bama game last year, hopefully without the ugly start ND had.
We better show some balls.
Miami -17 and the Under.
Being on schedule with your rehab and being cleared to play does not automatically mean he will completely 100%. I won't be surprised if King gets the okay to start, but I won't expect him to be 100% if he does.Why is it likely that King is not 100% when all reports are to the contrary?
I get you don't want people to know if your QB is f*cked, but you probably also wouldn't consistently say "he's beating all his benchmarks and will be ready for the opener."
1. Bet or move on is how you lose money. With most other teams, I bet using power ratings. With Miami, I have an in-depth knowledge of the team that allows me to break down matchups and anticipate scheme. I also seem to end up betting them every week regardless.The answer you're seeking is quite simple .
Time to move on ...OR... PUT YOUR $$$ DOWN
Talking sh%t from the sidelines is easy. So Less talk more betting.
These are good odds for Cane fans ...even if you hold Manny in lower regard than whale****.
I DO...
But 18pts is hard to pass on ANY P5 game
I don't believe in trends. Different players, different coaches. You can always find a trend to fit your narrative if you want to.if you think were better than the 09 VT team take the points if not take the safe bet and unfortunately go with saban against the canes.
The mental part is hard too.Being on schedule with your rehab and being cleared to play does not automatically mean he will completely 100%. I won't be surprised if King gets the okay to start, but I won't expect him to be 100% if he does.
He'll likely have a brace on, be relatively limited in mobility, and simply not be the same caliber of player he was before the injury. It would take a few games into the season at least before he was at the point where he could move and be more like himself prior to the injury if he can even get back to that point.
I'm not saying he will be a crippled pocket passer now, but a lot of guys don't come back completely from this type of injury.
lol believe in whatever you need smart money is rolling wit bama.... roll wit the canes in a solo bet give me bama in a parlay more likely to hit imo. I'm liking ND spread against fsu rn i gotta see any more favorable matchups i like for a good parlay on opening weekendI don't believe in trends. Different players, different coaches. You can always find a trend to fit your narrative if you want to.
At what point do we say Nesta is overrated? He hasn't really done much of anything.
@DMoney where do you rank him as far as our tackles go (forget whether 1-tech or 3-tech, just overall)? What is the word on him?