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Assistant coaches badmouthing UM's recruiting tactics

Now that the cloud is gone and the investigation is over they can't compete with us anymore!!! Poor little babies can't handle an even playing field. **** them....
 
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IHATETHISPLACE said:
OP post has to be retarded

Here is the article it is other coaching staff's badmouthing UM not UF. It seems like a lot of people around the country are ****ed about the snitching

http://www.si.com/college-football/2014/08/24/chuckie-keeton-miami-recruiting-inside-read

1. Miami feeling backlash after allegedly turning in Florida

For a generation of fans, Miami football was synonymous with bravado, showboating and four national championships in the 1980s and '90s. Football historian Beano Cook called the Hurricanes the “greatest dynasty since Caesar,” and the swagger of The U has been immortalized over the years.

That reputation has faded in the 13 years since Miami’s last national title. But while the specter of the Nevin Shapiro scandal is finally leaving the program, the 'Canes have been branded with a label unthinkable during their heyday: Snitch.

According to sources, Miami gave information to the NCAA last spring about then-Florida wide receivers coach Joker Phillips committing alleged recruiting violations. That prompted an ongoing investigation into Phillips, who resigned in June for “personal reasons.” The alleged incident involved a violation of the “bump rule” with wide receiver Calvin Ridley, the Miami area’s top recruit who is committed to Alabama.​

The “bump rule” prohibits coaches from talking to a recruit in person beyond a greeting during an evaluation period. If the alleged violations involving Phillips are substantiated, Gators coach Will Muschamp could be suspended one game under a rule that makes head coaches accountable for certain transgressions of their assistants.

Violations of the “bump rule” are common but rarely reported. Miami coach Al Golden declined to comment through an athletic department spokesman.

The incident has sparked outrage among many assistants who recruit the Miami area. Three assistants, none of whom has ties to the University of Florida, said the Hurricanes have become pariahs in the recruiting world.

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​“It’s bull----,” said one assistant, “Miami bumps and talks to kids more than anybody. They’ve started a war. They better watch out. You started messing with livelihoods and s--- is going to get dirty.”

Said another assistant: “Nobody trusts Miami right now. You don’t even want to shake hands with them.”

Miami is widely regarded as one of the most difficult cities to navigate in recruiting because of the proliferation of opportunistic high school coaches, middlemen and agents. Miami’s attempt to clean up has made it stand out.

“There’s a lot of street people in Miami," one of the assistants said. "How do you think they feel about what the University of Miami did to Joker Phillips?”

One prominent high school coach in Miami said he believes the Hurricanes are fighting back after getting pummeled by negative recruiting following the Shapiro scandal. “They were taking a beating in recruiting and couldn’t fight back in any way,” said the coach. “What took place is they fought back. Joker could have just been collateral damage in the whole thing.”
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So typical SI bashing Miami. This is a past issue. When it first came to light, there were conversations about it all over the place and the consensus was that not only should Miami have told, they had no choice --- they had to. Given the recent negative activity with the NCAA, if Miami was found to know of the activity, but not report, they risked getting themselves in trouble. ---- I am remembering what was said by Robert Smith and others on ESPN College Football show and elsewhere.

With **** like this popping up again and again, you Genron apologists still think it is a good idea to deal with him?
 
Lets make a deal with The Mush and UF.

We promise not to recruit Gainesville and the 8 contiguous counties around it. UF promises to stay out of Dade, Broward and Palm Beach.

Deal?
 
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Since Miami "snitched" on Joker they have gotten commitments from Bruce, Snelson, Scarlett, Johnson, St Louis, Richards, and Mullins. That's an incredible haul of South Florida players for a coaching staff are considered "pariahs."
 
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And I think people are underselling why others appear to be upset.

The 'bump' rule is nonsense. You're incredibly naive if you think coaches don't 'accidentally' run into recruits they're after all the time, Miami included. As far as recruiting goes its sort of like a frat, a lot of those coaches know each other and have played together, been grad assistants together, etc. So when you turn someone in over something that is almost universal in recruiting, and something that most have a gentleman's agreement not to report, then you're endangering people's livelihood. Sort of like how you don't try to injure teammates in camp, same concept. Nobody would care if it was a major violation because they all turn each other in for that stuff.

I mean Miami is the home team, anyone under the allusion that they don't 'run in' to recruits all the time? Cmon now. Either way this is all petty.
 
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pfallstars said:
The best part, even if true, is that the NCAA won't come near Miami with a 10 foot pole about this stuff. Donna abused them and set the ball in motion in dismantling the NCAA as we know it. They fuxed with the wrong bull, and it cost them. Keep it up, Al!
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Emmert was out of his league in that fight. He'll stick to protecting the money machine and his SEC good old boys. But he wants no part of Donna.
 
killa1storm said:
And I think people are underselling why others appear to be upset.

The 'bump' rule is nonsense. You're incredibly naive if you think coaches don't 'accidentally' run into recruits they're after all the time, Miami included. As far as recruiting goes its sort of like a frat, a lot of those coaches know each other and have played together, been grad assistants together, etc. So when you turn someone in over something that is almost universal in recruiting, and something that most have a gentleman's agreement not to report, then you're endangering people's livelihood. Sort of like how you don't try to injure teammates in camp, same concept. Nobody would care if it was a major violation because they all turn each other in for that stuff.

I mean Miami is the home team, anyone under the allusion that they don't 'run in' to recruits all the time? Cmon now. Either way this is all petty.
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I think people are overselling why this is a big deal because they can't stomach the increasingly likely prospect that Miami will start dominating recruiting in South Florida again.
 
killa1storm said:
And I think people are underselling why others appear to be upset.

The 'bump' rule is nonsense. You're incredibly naive if you think coaches don't 'accidentally' run into recruits they're after all the time, Miami included. As far as recruiting goes its sort of like a frat, a lot of those coaches know each other and have played together, been grad assistants together, etc. So when you turn someone in over something that is almost universal in recruiting, and something that most have a gentleman's agreement not to report, then you're endangering people's livelihood. Sort of like how you don't try to injure teammates in camp, same concept. Nobody would care if it was a major violation because they all turn each other in for that stuff.

I mean Miami is the home team, anyone under the allusion that they don't 'run in' to recruits all the time? Cmon now. Either way this is all petty.
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Why would ufayg fire Philips for such a minor thing if all he did was bump into a recruit and exchange a few words with him? Had to be more to it, or he had to have a history of shenanigans.
 
Everybody talks about what a powerful recruiter TRob is but look where he started last year and where he ended up. Couldn't hold the best of his commits.
 
killa1storm said:
And I think people are underselling why others appear to be upset.

The 'bump' rule is nonsense. You're incredibly naive if you think coaches don't 'accidentally' run into recruits they're after all the time, Miami included. As far as recruiting goes its sort of like a frat, a lot of those coaches know each other and have played together, been grad assistants together, etc. So when you turn someone in over something that is almost universal in recruiting, and something that most have a gentleman's agreement not to report, then you're endangering people's livelihood. Sort of like how you don't try to injure teammates in camp, same concept. Nobody would care if it was a major violation because they all turn each other in for that stuff.

I mean Miami is the home team, anyone under the allusion that they don't 'run in' to recruits all the time? Cmon now. Either way this is all petty.
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Have you considered that Joker was taking the "bump" rule well beyond its typical bounds?
 
Canes2082 said:
IHATETHISPLACE said:
Canes2082 said:
Perhaps we should ask them about Brandon Powell and the dead period....
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I think they should. Collage coaches can still call high school coaches and they can still DM prospects on twitter and facebook during the dead period. Prospects can call coaches during the dead period. It is not hard to get in contact with a prospect within the rules during the dead period.
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Really so Powell was all UM suddenly UF makes a phone call to his coaches or whomever.....a duffel bag appears and poof he's gone but UF is the good boys....

You guys kill me.....you can dish it but can't take it. Makes it all that sweeter when I decked the UF fan at last year's game who tried to fu*k with my truck.....cried like a ****
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UF recruited Powell the whole year. Pete has explained that Yearby almost flipped to USF as well because of administration problems
 
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killa1storm said:
And I think people are underselling why others appear to be upset.

The 'bump' rule is nonsense. You're incredibly naive if you think coaches don't 'accidentally' run into recruits they're after all the time, Miami included. As far as recruiting goes its sort of like a frat, a lot of those coaches know each other and have played together, been grad assistants together, etc. So when you turn someone in over something that is almost universal in recruiting, and something that most have a gentleman's agreement not to report, then you're endangering people's livelihood. Sort of like how you don't try to injure teammates in camp, same concept. Nobody would care if it was a major violation because they all turn each other in for that stuff.

I mean Miami is the home team, anyone under the allusion that they don't 'run in' to recruits all the time? Cmon now. Either way this is all petty.
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Mushcamp told anybody who'd listen that they're shutting down the um football program. Cocaine and whores and abortions and ponzu schemes. You look like a ****** being so butthurt
 
F$U is loving this polishing up that crystal ball with the attention on Miami and UF in this South Florida spat, they slide under the radar winning over grandma$ and $uch.
 
Hmmmm....they certainly had no problem throwing out the term "death penalty". Pot meet kettle. Also, Miami's probably pointing out the fact that UF's staff might not be around after this year given their impressive 4-8 record and a loss at home to Georgia Southern.
 
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