Arch vs Mateer

[TrumpyCane]

Mateer has actually shown he can be good within the right situation while Manning hasn’t.

Yeah just has to play powder puffs like did at WSU

Trumpycane initially liked Mateer and then checked out his game logs

Was bad against any team with a pulse at WSU

9-19 1 TD 1 INT against TT
17-34 1 TD 1 INT against Washington
17-35 0 TD, 1 INT against Fresno

18 of his 29 passing touchdowns came against Portland State, Hawaii, Utah State, New Mexico, San Diego State

And another 4 against San Jose State

 

[DMoney]

Before the season, you had Arch listed as one of the top 5 players going into the 2026 season. You had Toney, Jeremiah Smith, Colin Simmons, Arch, and CJ Carr...and you even said "in no particular order" meaning Arch very well could be your pick as the best player in college football which would CERTAINLY garner him #1 overall pick and a generational talent. But now he's downgraded to simply a first round pick. Only matter of time before you have him as a 4th rounder (and that might still be too high).

Yeah, he's not playing as well as the other guys.

Not a step back but not a huge step forward.

 

[TheATLCane]

What about salary?

 

[NicKane]

Very good prospect. Not generational. In a perfect world, he stays another year. More of a first-round pick than a #1 overall right now.

First round is being kind D, very kind. Maybe if he stays another year but what he’s put out so far, is not first round quarterback material.

 

[BigDikDaddyFromCincinnati]

Yeah, he's not playing as well as the other guys.

Not a step back but not a huge step forward.

Not a step back because if he took one more step back, he'd fall right off that perch that the media put him on - he literally has nowhere else to go but forward. I'm not gonna say Arch sucks, but he sure does a stellar job of underwhelming.....which is the verbal equivalent of "not a step back but not a huge step forward".

 

[Numb Nuts]

Yeah, he's not playing as well as the other guys.

Not a step back but not a huge step forward.

It is a step back. You had Arch as one of the top 5 players entering the season (he could be your #1 since you said “in no particular order”). Top 5 players in FBS are generational players.

Do you have Arch in your top 5 now?

 

[BigDikDaddyFromCincinnati]

First round is being kind D, very kind. Maybe if he stays another year but what he’s put out so far, is not first round quarterback material.

Some dummy will spend a 1st rounder on him. D isn't wrong about that. JJ McCarthy, Anthony Richardson, Tim Heblow are all somewhat recent examples.

D is wrong about not bending the knee to say something like "Arch isn't that good." Instead he's gonna die on that hill.... Mendoza Hill as it's become affectionately known as round these parts.

 

[DMoney]

Yeah, he's not playing as well as the other guys.

Not a step back but not a huge step forward.

It is a step back. You had Arch as one of the top 5 players entering the season (he could be your #1 since you said “in no particular order”). Top 5 players in FBS are generational players.

Do you have Arch in your top 5 now?

Generational player means one every generation. Arch is not that and he’s never been that.

Now, I did think he was going to make a leap this year as an elite college quarterback. So far, that hasn’t happened. He’s been solid but not spectacular. The last two #1 picks (Mendoza and Ward) were playing at a higher level at this point in the season.

Still a lot of football left. He needs to become more consistent drive to drive.

 

[LoyalCane24]

Arch clearly lacks the natural instincts at the position needed. He looks like he has everything youd need in an elite QB but it isn't there. He is never going to be a first rounder, and if he is, he will never be a top 20 qb in the nfl. He just doesn't have the feel at the position that is needed. He is JJ Mccarthy at best. A game manager.