Amari Carter

[Memnon]

So to y'all, Delaney & Dean are gonna sit on the bench behind Redwine & Mayes?

Take a look at the depth chart fellas, after Malek Young, Redwine is the only CB that's serviceable enough to see the field.

Delaney was brought in to START day 1, he's a mid-round NFL draft pick if he declared for the draft coming out of the Citadel, the dude has 11INT's for his career ELEVEN lol...

He's a Ballhawk in the truest form & y'all legit think Redwine will start over him, because he's been here longer?
I love Red, one of my favorite players on the team personally, but Delaney actually has more experience than him & is a far better player overall.

I get the hesitation with being gung-ho to start brand new guys, but you guys gotta realize, Richt ain't bringing these dudes in to just sit on the bench, he could've signed a bunch of JAGS at DB in the 2017 class if all he needed was seat filler depth.

These guys are going to play, just because they'll be here in May doesn't mean it's impossible for them to be ready by September.

Colbert wasn't here in January, he came in & started right away... This isn't that difficult to figure out guys lol.

 

[MIATL]

Liberty, I like the new guys a ton, too. But Redwine as the 5th CB after being a starter last year, with 3 of the 4 ahead of him brand new to the team? Seems a stretch to me. Carter ahead of Finley and Jackson already is also a stretch. The reason the Bermuda Triangle started immediately was we had nothing at LB. But are our DBs that bad? Jackson didn't get going until October, and Young was eased in even more carefully.

I could see Bandy and Carter taking minutes midway through, possibly even leap-frogging the other guys. But I just don't the urgency to displace Redwine, Finley and Jackson early on. And Dean is still an enigma. He has the measurable to be like Gunter, but no real track record. And because he's coming in late, I think he'll take time to acclimate, as well. May even struggle for a while.

The only EE that's on campus right now at DB is Amari Carter...

Delaney will be a day 1 starter, he's not coming until May, Dean will get starter snaps as well, he's not coming until May as well.

Redwine is solid, but he's simply not a starting CB unless we have depth issues, the only way he starts is if he's moved to FS.

As far as Jackson, Idk what everyone has seen but what makes y'all think he's a starting FS? He's literally never played the position before & is being experimentally moved to Safety for Spring to see if it works.

I don't get what you guys have against Freshman playing, Richt said himself literally just 2 weeks ago, that there's no "Seniority" here, the best guys will play, whether they're Freshman or not.

I'm not predicting that every single incoming Frosh is better than every player we have now, I'm also not predicting that they'll all start, but maybe you guys just aren't paying attention but all of these guys are going to play if they show that they can.

Dean will play early because he's a JUCO & he has experience, he's not a Freshman, neither is Delaney.

With Finely, I said him & Amari will be in rotation, that job will be a battle til Fall.

IMO, I think Redwine holds Dean off for the 3rd corner spot.

But it's a great problem to have ... 4 quality guys at corner is great for this D.

It allows Bandy a smoother transition to his nickle spot.

It also allows us to ease Carter in, as the nickle and dime sets don't have to include Bandy or Carter.

Going with:

Johnson
Finley
Young
Delaney
Redwine
Dean

is a good group, IMO.

 

[KrazyCane]

I prefer Quan at FS, he's got the instincts & the ball skills to be a natural at the position, the only thing he lacks is prototype size & speed.

However, he can be used the same way Tyrann Mathieu is used, which is as a Nickel Safety that can play over the top or drop down if needed.

Amari is an intelligent mature kid, who can be a great playmaker, he's better suited at SS as in-Box safety that can come down hill in run support or Blitz in certain packages & the fact he's an EE will give him a chance to get legit starter snaps in rotation from day 1.

With the Elite DL & LB corp we have, we can play more single High with Press man on the outside, which makes it so much easier for our Secondary.

This is why it was so important to add Dee Delaney, because he gives us a ton of flexibility & much needed experience & depth to our young Secondary.

Yes, Redwine can be moved to FS & it's very possible he will this Spring, but as of now Michael Jackson seems to be the one that the staff has moved to Safety, so we'll see how that goes.

To me it'll look like this:
FS - Jaquan Johnson/ Michael Jackson/ Jeff James
SS - Amari Carter/ Romeo Finley/ Derrick Smith

CB1 - Dee Delaney (RCB)
CB2 - Malek Young (LCB)
CB3 - Jhavonte Dean
CB4 - Trajan Bandy (NCB)
CB5 - Sheldrick Redwine
CB6 - Ryan Mayes
CB7 - Terrance Henley

I think Malek, Bandy & even Dean can play in packages at Nickel, they'll be times where I could see Delaney & Dean as the outside Corners & Young inside, and they'll be other situations where Bandy will be the inside guy with Young or Dean & Delaney as the Boundary Corners.

Young really played well for us down the stretch last season & showed he can play both inside & outside, plus he's a good tackler that can be a Blitzing CB similar to what Elder was doing last year.

great post.... my thinking regarding the safety position is that it would be best if Derrick Smith is ready to play right away and if Amari Carter could play FS even if it's just in certain situations, but all of that i would assume the coaches plan on finding out up close during spring practice. I know next recruiting class that comes in is going to put a lot of pressure on both Amari Carter and Derrick Smith so after this season there wont be so many question marks back there.

Also Trajan Bandy would make the perfect FS in spread packages with Jaquan at the SS position as well unless Michael Jackson just surprises everyone and beast at the FS spot, which I hope happens.

 

[grover]

Liberty, I like the new guys a ton, too. But Redwine as the 5th CB after being a starter last year, with 3 of the 4 ahead of him brand new to the team? Seems a stretch to me. Carter ahead of Finley and Jackson already is also a stretch. The reason the Bermuda Triangle started immediately was we had nothing at LB. But are our DBs that bad? Jackson didn't get going until October, and Young was eased in even more carefully.

I could see Bandy and Carter taking minutes midway through, possibly even leap-frogging the other guys. But I just don't the urgency to displace Redwine, Finley and Jackson early on. And Dean is still an enigma. He has the measurable to be like Gunter, but no real track record. And because he's coming in late, I think he'll take time to acclimate, as well. May even struggle for a while.

The only EE that's on campus right now at DB is Amari Carter...

Delaney will be a day 1 starter, he's not coming until May, Dean will get starter snaps as well, he's not coming until May as well.

Redwine is solid, but he's simply not a starting CB unless we have depth issues, the only way he starts is if he's moved to FS.

As far as Jackson, Idk what everyone has seen but what makes y'all think he's a starting FS? He's literally never played the position before & is being experimentally moved to Safety for Spring to see if it works.

I don't get what you guys have against Freshman playing, Richt said himself literally just 2 weeks ago, that there's no "Seniority" here, the best guys will play, whether they're Freshman or not.

I'm not predicting that every single incoming Frosh is better than every player we have now, I'm also not predicting that they'll all start, but maybe you guys just aren't paying attention but all of these guys are going to play if they show that they can.

Dean will play early because he's a JUCO & he has experience, he's not a Freshman, neither is Delaney.

With Finely, I said him & Amari will be in rotation, that job will be a battle til Fall.

IMO, I think Redwine holds Dean off for the 3rd corner spot.

But it's a great problem to have ... 4 quality guys at corner is great for this D.

It allows Bandy a smoother transition to his nickle spot.

It also allows us to ease Carter in, as the nickle and dime sets don't have to include Bandy or Carter.

Going with:

Johnson
Finley
Young
Delaney
Redwine
Dean

is a good group, IMO.

I' m with that for September, with Dean the guy rotating in until he can prove he can reliably cover at a D1 level. Carter and Bandy get folded into the mix over the season and may grab a starting spot at some point. And don't count out Jackson or Knowles. They have athletic talent and now have experience.

Liberty, Delaney is your Colbert, probably even better. I agree he starts right away. But you cannot compare the other guys who have never played D1 ball. And it's notthe same situation as at LB last year. Redwine is not Ed Reed or Antrel Rolle, but he's also not Ryan Mayes or Mike Williams. There's no need to start unproven newbies ahead of him, despite his limitations.

 

[Memnon]

I prefer Quan at FS, he's got the instincts & the ball skills to be a natural at the position, the only thing he lacks is prototype size & speed.

However, he can be used the same way Tyrann Mathieu is used, which is as a Nickel Safety that can play over the top or drop down if needed.

Amari is an intelligent mature kid, who can be a great playmaker, he's better suited at SS as in-Box safety that can come down hill in run support or Blitz in certain packages & the fact he's an EE will give him a chance to get legit starter snaps in rotation from day 1.

With the Elite DL & LB corp we have, we can play more single High with Press man on the outside, which makes it so much easier for our Secondary.

This is why it was so important to add Dee Delaney, because he gives us a ton of flexibility & much needed experience & depth to our young Secondary.

Yes, Redwine can be moved to FS & it's very possible he will this Spring, but as of now Michael Jackson seems to be the one that the staff has moved to Safety, so we'll see how that goes.

To me it'll look like this:
FS - Jaquan Johnson/ Michael Jackson/ Jeff James
SS - Amari Carter/ Romeo Finley/ Derrick Smith

CB1 - Dee Delaney (RCB)
CB2 - Malek Young (LCB)
CB3 - Jhavonte Dean
CB4 - Trajan Bandy (NCB)
CB5 - Sheldrick Redwine
CB6 - Ryan Mayes
CB7 - Terrance Henley

I think Malek, Bandy & even Dean can play in packages at Nickel, they'll be times where I could see Delaney & Dean as the outside Corners & Young inside, and they'll be other situations where Bandy will be the inside guy with Young or Dean & Delaney as the Boundary Corners.

Young really played well for us down the stretch last season & showed he can play both inside & outside, plus he's a good tackler that can be a Blitzing CB similar to what Elder was doing last year.

great post.... my thinking regarding the safety position is that it would be best if Derrick Smith is ready to play right away and if Amari Carter could play FS even if it's just in certain situations, but all of that i would assume the coaches plan on finding out up close during spring practice. I know next recruiting class that comes in is going to put a lot of pressure on both Amari Carter and Derrick Smith so after this season there wont be so many question marks back there.

Also Trajan Bandy would make the perfect FS in spread packages with Jaquan at the SS position as well unless Michael Jackson just surprises everyone and beast at the FS spot, which I hope happens.

I actually think D Smith will probably redshirt unless someone gets hurt...

If he plays it'll mostly be on Special Teams imo, I don't think he's ready to go day 1.

For me, the thing that gives Amari Carter a legit chance to get starter snaps aside from being an EE, is the fact that he's an incredibly smart & mature kid.

He's not the kind of kid that the learning curve will hurt too much, I've met him before & seen him play live 3 times, the kid is very intelligent... He'll be an academic all-American, that doesn't mean he's going to be starter just because of that, but kids like him always make their way onto the field, you just can't keep that IQ off the field.

He's also a very violent hitter, which is what Diaz & Banda want/love... I think both him & Rome Finely will play at the SS spot.

I think Bandy will play a lot of ST's, and will definitely get in on packages as the NCB.

 

[TC7D]

Delaney and Dean will start. In fact, there is no chance that Delaney doesn't start unless he's hurt. They are both better than what we have now and were brought in for instant impact.

Young, Bandy and Redwine are good backups for this season.

 

[Memnon]

Also, another reason why I like Quan better at FS is because Amari wouldn't play early at that position.

It's much easier to play SS as a Freshman than it is to play FS, much easier role to play in for this Defense, easier learning curve & less responsibility.

Even for a kid as smart as Amari, asking him to play FS day 1 is a lot to put on him...

But, you put Quan at FS, with Amari/Rome Finley at SS, that's pretty **** legit with the CB additions we got, to go with our Elite level DL & LB corp.

 

[Memnon]

Delaney and Dean will start. In fact, there is no chance that Delaney doesn't start unless he's hurt. They are both better than what we have now and were brought in for instant impact.

Young, Bandy and Redwine are good backups for this season.

Young is a starter imo...

 

[TC7D]

Delaney and Dean will start. In fact, there is no chance that Delaney doesn't start unless he's hurt. They are both better than what we have now and were brought in for instant impact.

Young, Bandy and Redwine are good backups for this season.

Young is a starter imo...

I respect your opinion. You are typically on point. It will be interesting to see which of us is right. Looking for the thread bump in 6 months.

 

[252cane]

Liberty, I like the new guys a ton, too. But Redwine as the 5th CB after being a starter last year, with 3 of the 4 ahead of him brand new to the team? Seems a stretch to me. Carter ahead of Finley and Jackson already is also a stretch. The reason the Bermuda Triangle started immediately was we had nothing at LB. But are our DBs that bad? Jackson didn't get going until October, and Young was eased in even more carefully.

I could see Bandy and Carter taking minutes midway through, possibly even leap-frogging the other guys. But I just don't the urgency to displace Redwine, Finley and Jackson early on. And Dean is still an enigma. He has the measurable to be like Gunter, but no real track record. And because he's coming in late, I think he'll take time to acclimate, as well. May even struggle for a while.

The only EE that's on campus right now at DB is Amari Carter...

Delaney will be a day 1 starter, he's not coming until May, Dean will get starter snaps as well, he's not coming until May as well.

Redwine is solid, but he's simply not a starting CB unless we have depth issues, the only way he starts is if he's moved to FS.

As far as Jackson, Idk what everyone has seen but what makes y'all think he's a starting FS? He's literally never played the position before & is being experimentally moved to Safety for Spring to see if it works.

I don't get what you guys have against Freshman playing, Richt said himself literally just 2 weeks ago, that there's no "Seniority" here, the best guys will play, whether they're Freshman or not.

I'm not predicting that every single incoming Frosh is better than every player we have now, I'm also not predicting that they'll all start, but maybe you guys just aren't paying attention but all of these guys are going to play if they show that they can.

Dean will play early because he's a JUCO & he has experience, he's not a Freshman, neither is Delaney.

With Finely, I said him & Amari will be in rotation, that job will be a battle til Fall.

IMO, I think Redwine holds Dean off for the 3rd corner spot.

But it's a great problem to have ... 4 quality guys at corner is great for this D.

It allows Bandy a smoother transition to his nickle spot.

It also allows us to ease Carter in, as the nickle and dime sets don't have to include Bandy or Carter.

Going with:

Johnson
Finley
Young
Delaney
Redwine
Dean

is a good group, IMO.

Yea just like when redwine held off a guy that had not even played corner.

 

[252cane]

Delaney and Dean will start. In fact, there is no chance that Delaney doesn't start unless he's hurt. They are both better than what we have now and were brought in for instant impact.

Young, Bandy and Redwine are good backups for this season.

Young is a starter imo...

I disagree. Young was solid down the stretch at times but did nothing to lock up a spot. He will have to battle.

 

[bobbydigius]

Lulz at some on this board. All of a sudden a guy who had a 3-5th round grade as a junior might be forced to the bench by a guy that can't cover a WR that runs faster than a 4.6 because of where he played college last year?

 

[MIATL]

Liberty, I like the new guys a ton, too. But Redwine as the 5th CB after being a starter last year, with 3 of the 4 ahead of him brand new to the team? Seems a stretch to me. Carter ahead of Finley and Jackson already is also a stretch. The reason the Bermuda Triangle started immediately was we had nothing at LB. But are our DBs that bad? Jackson didn't get going until October, and Young was eased in even more carefully.

I could see Bandy and Carter taking minutes midway through, possibly even leap-frogging the other guys. But I just don't the urgency to displace Redwine, Finley and Jackson early on. And Dean is still an enigma. He has the measurable to be like Gunter, but no real track record. And because he's coming in late, I think he'll take time to acclimate, as well. May even struggle for a while.

The only EE that's on campus right now at DB is Amari Carter...

Delaney will be a day 1 starter, he's not coming until May, Dean will get starter snaps as well, he's not coming until May as well.

Redwine is solid, but he's simply not a starting CB unless we have depth issues, the only way he starts is if he's moved to FS.

As far as Jackson, Idk what everyone has seen but what makes y'all think he's a starting FS? He's literally never played the position before & is being experimentally moved to Safety for Spring to see if it works.

I don't get what you guys have against Freshman playing, Richt said himself literally just 2 weeks ago, that there's no "Seniority" here, the best guys will play, whether they're Freshman or not.

I'm not predicting that every single incoming Frosh is better than every player we have now, I'm also not predicting that they'll all start, but maybe you guys just aren't paying attention but all of these guys are going to play if they show that they can.

Dean will play early because he's a JUCO & he has experience, he's not a Freshman, neither is Delaney.

With Finely, I said him & Amari will be in rotation, that job will be a battle til Fall.

IMO, I think Redwine holds Dean off for the 3rd corner spot.

But it's a great problem to have ... 4 quality guys at corner is great for this D.

It allows Bandy a smoother transition to his nickle spot.

It also allows us to ease Carter in, as the nickle and dime sets don't have to include Bandy or Carter.

Going with:

Johnson
Finley
Young
Delaney
Redwine
Dean

is a good group, IMO.

Yea just like when redwine held off a guy that had not even played corner.

Are you talking about Colbert?

If you're suggesting Dean is the equivalent of Colbert, then I'll take it!

Whoever earns the spot, deserves it.

 

[CFLCane]

Week1

CB1 Delaney
CB2 Young
CB3 Redwine
CB4 Bandy or Dean
CB5 Dean or Bandy

FS Quan/Jackson
SS Carter/Finley

Mid/Late Season

CB1 Delaney
CB2 Young
CB3 Bandy
CB4 Redwine
CB5 Dean

FS Quan/Jackson
SS Carter/Finley or Smith

I think the wildcard here is Dean. If he shows out he could end up in that CB#2 spot towards the end of the season bumping Young to the nickel to battle with Bandy. It's pretty clear the coaches prefer size on the boundary corner spots. I'm not too high on Redwine future at CB but i'd love to be wrong. We would be much better off if he made a nice jump this year. This is a make or break year here for a lot of DB's, the 2018 is coming to take jobs.

 

[Disgustipated]

This staff has already proven they can develop players. Debating about if Redwine is the second CB or the 5th corner is a good thing IMO. We have good athletes coming in and they all will play throughout the year and earn their roles on the team. FSU in week 3 is huge

 

[teddywestside]

People freak out about CB but somehow we've managed to cobble together a serviceable 5 man rotation. It's safety that's the real concern with Jenkins gone.

 

[rok]

Crazy depth chart of the day:

CB: Delaney, Dean, Young, Bandy, Redwine, Mayes, Henley

S: Johnson, Carter, Finley, Jackson, Smith, James, Knowles

 

[Combo]

People freak out about CB but somehow we've managed to cobble together a serviceable 5 man rotation. It's safety that's the real concern with Jenkins gone.

Adding Delaney was huge. I was pretty worried until he committed. With him we should be 5 deep with at least capable CBs. Delaney, Young, Dean, Bandy, and Redwine is a good group if they all stay healthy.

 

[rok]

FINAL depth chart:

CB: Delaney, Young, Dean, Bandy, Redwine, Jackson

S: Johnson, Finley, Carter, Knowles, James, Smith

 

[252cane]

Where is all this young hype coming from? The dude is still raw at cb. He played more offense in high school than defense.