A note on Bob Shoop

[DMoney]

I like to use Yards Per Play as a catch-all stat. It's the simplest measure of efficiency on offense and defense, and it usually matches the eye test of the top teams.

In Manny's last year as DC ('18), Miami ranked 3rd nationally in YPP. Brent Venables and Clemson were 2nd. Bob Shoop and Mississippi State were 1st.

This is an excellent addition to the staff. As an analyst, he gives Manny some veteran, Ivy League eyes with big-time experience. He is not a Yes Man and he has two Broyles Award nominations to his credit. Big-time programs make moves like this.

 

[Tetragrammaton Cane]

I like to use Yards Per Play as a catch-all stat. It's the simplest measure of efficiency on offense and defense, and it usually matches the eye test of the top teams.

In Manny's last year as DC ('18), Miami ranked 3rd nationally in YPP. Brent Venables and Clemson were 2nd. Bob Shoop and Mississippi State were 1st.

This is an excellent addition to the staff. As an analyst, he gives Manny some veteran, Ivy League eyes with big-time experience. He is not a Yes Man and he has two Broyles Award nominations to his credit. Big-time programs make moves like this.

You mean like Mar Whipple?

 

[Silentobserver]

His knowledge and experience can only be positives, and as DMoney mentions, this move is what serious programs (the ones that spend and are committed to winning) do.

Can we put to rest the narrative that Miami doesn't care about winning, or isn't committed? I'd imagine (maybe hopeful thinking) that Shoop as an analyst brings about some of that revamped infrastructure to the program that was discussed at length in an older thread.

 

[matt33]

I was told he’s coming, but wants to bring another coach with him

 

[Page305]

Like I always say, one big reason why teams like Bama are so far ahead is because of the quality of their analyst. This is a big move for us and it has to become a trend.

 

[aelmiami]

I’m thinking a little down the line here but it would make a super smooth transition if we needed a DC in a year or two.

 

[JayCane20]

He held Bama to 24 points back in 2018 - their season low. He better get started on that game plan today.

 

[TC@ne]

His knowledge and experience can only be positives, and as DMoney mentions, this move is what serious programs (the ones that spend and are committed to winning) do.

Can we put to rest the narrative that Miami doesn't care about winning, or isn't committed? I'd imagine (maybe hopeful thinking) that Shoop as an analyst brings about some of that revamped infrastructure to the program that was discussed at length in an older thread.

To be fair I still don’t think admin and AD could care less, but Manny cares a **** ton and they want him to be the guy so they give him benefit of the doubt.

 

[htownkidd]

I’m thinking a little down the line here but it would make a super smooth transition if we needed a DC in a year or two.

Definitely have to find a way to keep him on the staff come '22....

 

[canesbaby]

To be fair I still don’t think admin and AD could care less, but Manny cares a **** ton and they want him to be the guy so they give him benefit of the doubt.

you're probably right. but hey, whatever it takes.

 

[Silentobserver]

I’m thinking a little down the line here but it would make a super smooth transition if we needed a DC in a year or two.

Would have to be in two years. Can't be in year (think about what Taggert did with Dugans and the WR coaching position a couple seasons back)

 

[Silentobserver]

To be fair I still don’t think admin and AD could care less, but Manny cares a **** ton and they want him to be the guy so they give him benefit of the doubt.

Hard to speculate how anyone feels, I suppose. But, I don't think Shoop is coming for free and isn't being paid out of Manny's pocket. The money and the approval came from somewhere.

 

[TC@ne]

Hard to speculate how anyone feels, I suppose. But, I don't think Shoop is coming for free and isn't being paid out of Manny's pocket. The money and the approval came from somewhere.

No doubt, I’m not speaking from first-hand knowledge, just my opinion based on their recent history of decision-making.

With respect to Shoop, I could be wrong but I think most if not all of his pay is still coming from Michigan.

 

[Silentobserver]

No doubt, I’m not speaking from first-hand knowledge, just my opinion based on their recent history of decision-making.

With respect to Shoop, I could be wrong but I think most if not all of his pay is still coming from Michigan.

I know he has his Michigan buy out money, but I'd imagine he will also receive a salary from Miami and his Shoop's tenure at Miami (let's say it's only 2 or 3 years) will outlive his Michigan buy out meaning that Miami will have to commit money to the guy.

 

[canesd]

I hope Trob wins that LB coach battle by bringing his boy TWill. I am sure Shoop would nominate someone quality as well but TWill would be a very good fit here.

 

[Nick_conlan]

I like to use Yards Per Play as a catch-all stat. It's the simplest measure of efficiency on offense and defense, and it usually matches the eye test of the top teams.

In Manny's last year as DC ('18), Miami ranked 3rd nationally in YPP. Brent Venables and Clemson were 2nd. Bob Shoop and Mississippi State were 1st.

This is an excellent addition to the staff. As an analyst, he gives Manny some veteran, Ivy League eyes with big-time experience. He is not a Yes Man and he has two Broyles Award nominations to his credit. Big-time programs make moves like this.

How would you say our current d compares to that miss state defense in ‘18 talent wise

 

[nycane]

I like to use Yards Per Play as a catch-all stat. It's the simplest measure of efficiency on offense and defense, and it usually matches the eye test of the top teams.

In Manny's last year as DC ('18), Miami ranked 3rd nationally in YPP. Brent Venables and Clemson were 2nd. Bob Shoop and Mississippi State were 1st.

This is an excellent addition to the staff. As an analyst, he gives Manny some veteran, Ivy League eyes with big-time experience. He is not a Yes Man and he has two Broyles Award nominations to his credit. Big-time programs make moves like this.

This move was likely so we can hire a LB coach who is a recruiter.

 

[88]

What happened in 2019 though?

 

[252cane]

has experience in the 4-3 but went to a 4-2-5 in 2018 with miss st. And that defense was elite. They were 2nd in ppg with 13.2. A huge one was they were 2nd in run defense. Giving up 95 yards a game on 2.87 yac. They were 7th vs the pass

 

[252cane]

What happened in 2019 though?

Had to rebuild the defense. They lost a lot of guys from that 2018 defense