2019 Potential Depth Chart (Defense)

Great post El!!! Your thoughts were exactly what I was thinking in terms of where the personnel fit and who would be starting. I think Hill is going to snag 7+ sacks in this defense, if not more. Overall the talent improvement is considerable and athletically more gifted. That should help us maintain a Top 10 defense
 
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I wouldn't mind a Grad transfer for Depth purposes only.

I'm tired of GT's & Juco's at CB being relies upon as starters, Dean & Delaney were liabilities in the secondary because they had no business being here to begin with.

If Rumph can't get Blades, Ivey, Frierson & Bethel ready then there's something wrong.
Have to agree, but with that being said I Have full confidence in rumphs coaching and developing his guys, he knows what he’s doing and has 3 years of experience at this level of doing so. Now he has even more talented players as his pieces in his secondary? Sign me up, can’t wait to watch it unfold
 
Great stuff, as usual. Two comments:

I think Hill comes off the bench and Rousseau/Patchan man the SDE spot. It doesn't really matter because Hill will likely get as many actual snaps as whoever plays at SDE. Like I've said, I see him in the Trent Harris role.

I don't see the Amari Carter thing unless Bolden is not good at all and Smith remains too young and inexperienced. I'm not saying Amari won't play. He'll play. But, he needs considerable work. Forget the message board label as a headhunting Safety who struggles in pass coverage. On plenty of occasions, I actually watched him struggle in any kind of space and filling the alley. In this defense, you cannot struggle to tackle in space. He may very well improve and we need him to serve as a 3rd Safety, but I hope someone comes up and grabs the spot next to Hall.
Hall's spot isn't guaranteed imo, I think people are just assuming so because of his talent, but talent ain't enough to get you a starter spot on this Defense. I think he'll be in the rotation & play a lot though.

Amari Carter as a Freshman had 26tcks 2TFL's & 2 sacks, this year he didn't in as many games but did had 3 PD's. I think his struggles are overstated on this board. Redwine was not good until his Junior year, once he was put in position to make plays he stepped up & excelled.

I guess I'll be the President of the Amari Carter fan club, so everyone can sell their AC5 stock to me, but he's a smart kid that will be coming into his Junior year, I think he'll breakout for us as the enforcer. Bubba Bolden will be the Deep Centerfielder that helps in coverage.
 
Have to agree, but with that being said I Have full confidence in rumphs coaching and developing his guys, he knows what he’s doing and has 3 years of experience at this level of doing so
He better, because if not I don't wanna hear no more bull**** excuses from yall lol
 
@Liberty City El

Great write up, AGAIN...

I also think we will be top 5-10 defense again. The part of the equation each year is that as we change players, so do the other teams. We will be playing a few different teams, we should have more turnovers, etc.

We should also have a better time of possession, which means our defense should be on the field less.

Starting to have hope again. Go Canes......
 
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Only disagreement is I'd flip Carter and Bolden. I like Bolden as a box safety because he's better when the play is in front of him. He's explosive in a straight line and has a nose for the ball but he has issues breaking down to make plays in space. Carter has range and movement skills but struggles with tackling so he makes sense as a deep safety.
 
Only disagreement is I'd flip Carter and Bolden. I like Bolden as a box safety because he's better when the play is in front of him. He's explosive in a straight line and has a nose for the ball but he has issues breaking down to make plays in space. Carter has range and movement skills but struggles with tackling so he makes sense as a deep safety.
I can agree with that.

I put Bolden at FS due to his 4.5 speed & his athleticism, I feel he'll be more of a Deep Centerfielder type that is used as help in coverage over top.

To me Amari is best when he blitzing & coming down in the run game, I think he's more of a Strong Safety run support type like how the Ravens used Bernard Pollard.

But I do see them flipping their roles as well, because Hall fits in the Rover spot like Jaquan did & in rotation I could see all 3 of them on the field in certain packages.
 
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If Rumph can't get Blades, Ivey, Frierson & Bethel ready then there's something wrong.
Agreed. We're plenty talented back there. Last time we brought in Delaney and he took away snaps from a dog like Bandy being on the field immediately. I look for DJ to take that other spot. Kid seems like he's a worker, and ahead of the other guys technique wise.
 
gurvan hall ain't starting? why the **** did nick satan visit him via helicopter for?
He might, it would be great if he does, but we'll see what happens in Spring & Fall camp.

I think as a Red Frosh he'll play a lot, but it remains to be scene who the starters will be.
 
The depth chart is **** good and we may add a player or two. Honestly, based on our depth on both sides of the ball and the (anticipated) Offensive improvements, I think the following are realistic goals:

Beat UF
Beat FSU (3-game win streak)
Win Coastal
Dark Horse Playoff Contender
Play a close game vs. Clemson
NY-6 Bowl Win
11+ wins
 
Hall and Bolden at Safety.... Ivey and Bandy at cb....I'm hoping Frierson eventually steps up...Im worried about covering Cleveland and UF wrs deep... our speed at cb is suspect....our pass rush has to be on point ...
 
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I think we’ll take a step back from a talent/experience standpoint but with the addition of a competent offense and STs, that will negate most of the losses and balance out. I expect a top 15 unit.
 
WDE - Jon Garvin/ Scott Patchan/ Jahfari Harvey/ Cam Williams
DT1 - Nesta Silvera/ Path Bethel/ Jason Blissett/ Tyreic Martin
DT2 - Chigozie Nnoruka/ Jon Ford/ Jordan Miller/ Jalar Holley
SDE - Trevon Hill/ Gregory Rousseau/ Jason Munoz

WLB - Michael Pinckney/ Waynmon Steed/ Sam Brooks
MLB - Shaquille Quarterman/ BJ Jennings/
SLB - Zach McCloud/ Patrick Joyner/ Avery Huff

Striker - Romeo Finley/ Derrick Smith
(Keontra Smith could play Striker as well)

LCB - Trajan Bandy/ Gilbert Frierson/ Tecory Couch
RCB - Al Blades Jr/ DJ Ivey/ Nigel Bethel

FS - Bubba Bolden/ Gurvan Hall/ Robert Knowles
SS - Amari Carter/ Derrick Smith/ Keontra Smith

At DE, Patchan will probably be a Strong Side DE, but I put him at Weak Side for the time being with the addition of Trevon Hill. You could put Hill at WDE & Garvin at Strong side too, but I think the DE rotation will have a lot to do with how Rousseau is coming along in his recovery if he's 100%. Also, a big plus is my boy Jahfari Harvey is an EE & will get those early Spring reps which will be huge for us in DE depth. If Roussea is healthy you can balance both the End spots out with Garvin, Hill, Patchan & Rousseau as the top 4 DE's on either side, if he's not, then hopefully Harvey excels & can get some snaps as Garvin's backup.

(I'm aware that Jaelen Phillips could be coming as well & if he does, he probably won't be eligible til the 2020 season but will definitely be a Strong Side DE.)

DT Depth has gotten stronger with the addition of Nnoruka from UCLA, I believe he & Silvera will be the starters at DT, but I also wouldn't be surprised if Bethel as a Senior was a starter as well. Either way, I'm happy with the rotation of Nnoruka, Rudebwoy Nesta, Bethel, Ford & Miller. I also think Blissett & Holley will play some as TF's, I think if the older guys all stay healthy the Freshman DT's will play in 3 or 4 games & redshirt, unless they just excel so much that they force themselves into the rotation. And I know there will be some debate about Munoz at DT or DE, I think as a True Freshman for depth purposes he'll be put at DE & shirted until he's fully healthy, but down the line in the next 2 years or so, I could see him at 3-tech DT. (Just my opinion)

At LB still strong with all Senior battle tested veterans who have started every game as the LB Corp of this Defense for the last 3 years. I think in their final Senior year we'll see the best we've seen from Shaq, Pinckney & McCloud. Looking forward to seeing Steed & Jennings get more snaps this season because those are the guys who will have to step up after the Seniors are gone, really hate how Wilder's career wound up kid had potential with nice speed wish him the absolute best, he's was a good kid & a hard worker. The only question I have with the LB group, is Joyner going to be DE or LB, or both?

I expect Brooks & Huff to play in 4 games & redshirt, but both of these kids are physical freaks of nature that will kill it after getting in our new S&C program. Those 2 beasts are fast, violent & instinctual football players, they will be future All-ACC LB's, don't care who disagrees or thinks I'm getting ahead of myself lol. They are pure definition of Miami LB's.

The most debatable position will be the CB's. I listed Al Jr as the starter opposite of Bandy because he played the most out of the 3 from last year (he played in every game & had 13tcks), he's got the experience & has good press cover skills, doesn't have the blazing 4.4 speed you'd like to see but can make up for it with technique & physicality. After a year in the system I think Al, DJ, Gil & all of them will be better.

Ivey IMO has the best shot in winning that CB2 starter spot, Ivey was mainly a ST's guy but he did play in 11 games & was not redshirted last year. He's gotten physically bigger at 6'1 195lbs & with his long arm frame is set to have a breakout year.

Frierson was redshirted last year, but has the potential to be a great addition to the secondary this year, another physical freak with very good natural Ball skills. There's always a debate about him moving to Safety, but I don't see that happening (at least not this year), we don!t have enough depth at CB to move any of them to Safety & I still feel it's too early to give up on any of them as Corners. I also like his chances to become CB2 or CB3, I think he'll play a lot this year.

I fully expect Ivey & Frierson to make their push for the starter spot, I'm NOT saying any of them are shoo-in's, it will be a wide open competition & the one I'm most excited to see this Spring & Fall.

At Safety, everyone has already thrown Amari Carter away with the addition of Bubba Bolden, but coming into his Junior year I think he's going to blow up & play his best ball yet, people forget Quan didn't have a breakout year until his Junior year after being in rotation behind Jenkins/Carter in 2016. AC5 will be the enforcer on the back end, y'all can sleep on him, but his Football IQ will be valuable in this Diaz/Baker Defense.

I'm a huge Gurvan Hall fan as well, I was one of the first people to ever post on the kid way back in July of 2016 👉🏾 https://www.canesinsight.com/threads/2018-s-gurvan-hall-receives-offer.99881/ so you don't have to convince me how good he is. The Palm Beach duo of Carter & Hall has potential to be the next Jaquan & Redwine, but even better. As a Red Frosh Hall will get his shot to play a great deal in the rotation & wouldn't be shocked if he was a starter this year too. I think our top 3 Safeties with Bolden, Carter & Hall will be strong, and barring injury will be the defensive catalysts in the secondary.

Overall, I think our Defense will still be a top 5-10 unit & remain the strength of our team. I know a lot of fans are worried, just like yall we're going to the 2017 season after we lost Elder, Carter, Jenkins & Colbert, then the same thing going into the 2018 season after losing Chad Thomas, Tren Harris, RJ McIntosh, Kendrick Norton, Anthony Moten, Darrion Owens & DJ Johnson transferring.

Now in 2019 after losing Willis, Joe Jackson, Mike Jack, Quan & Red some think we'll see a drop off, I disagree. I think losing Joe Jackson & Willis will hurt, but the system we run allows for talented players to excel on the DLine. Garvin had 60tcks & 17TFL's last year as only a Sophomore, with bringin Hill on Garvin will destroy even harder his Junior year & while I don't think we'll have a DT do what Willis did, I do think Silvera, Chigozie, Bethel & Ford will be good enough to be productive. Either way, I'm excited to see this Defense continue to evolve.
I think Gurvan Starts and might be our best player behind Pinckney, Garvin, &HillI...I also think Ford starts ahead of UCLA Grad, but those Dts will be in a heavy rotation..I also really like Harrison Hunt if he comes.
 
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Figure it out but whatever it takes to have Gurvan and Bolden as the starting two safeties. Romeo is a stud at Striker. Smith is solid. Carter can rotate in at safety and figure out a 4th in the rotation (hopefully one of the Smiths) so Knowles sticks to Special Teams.
 
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