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  1. DMoney

    Here is a stat that will surprise some people

    I think so. Manny seems to be on the Taggart track. After the bowl.
  2. DMoney

    Here is a stat that will surprise some people

    But even the NFL kids didn't play like that here. That is why I focus on development and scheme. For example, we had five OL start games in the NFL this year. That's a huge number. But not a single one of those guys made All-ACC. If the NFL talents are underperforming, I suspect that is true...
  3. DMoney

    Here is a stat that will surprise some people

    The results are in on Enos and Barry and they tell the same old story. Donaldson is the latest example. High School All-American. Freshman All-American. Now, unplayable. Another talent wasted. Duke's OL provides a good comparison. They struggled, predictably, with two freshmen tackles. But...
  4. DMoney

    Here is a stat that will surprise some people

    I'm not ignoring your points. I'm just searching, in vain, for anything that is not mere opinion. I posted hard stats on NFL talent. You dismissed that as a "slogan to provide a narrative." Then I gave you recruiting rankings. You dismissed that as "random data points." So what objective...
  5. DMoney

    Here is a stat that will surprise some people

    Read the original post in this thread. It is about NFL offensive linemen, i.e. successful evaluations. The stars are an alternative measure that says the same thing. We have more OL talent than most of the teams we play. Fans lack context when it comes to offensive lines. That's why I keep...
  6. DMoney

    Here is a stat that will surprise some people

    For sure, but it is just another semi-objective measure of talent. The topic of the thread was NFL talent, which we’ve produced a lot of on the OL.
  7. DMoney

    Here is a stat that will surprise some people

    Since you brought up Florida, I think this should provide some context on our OL talent. Here is Florida's projected OL for Orlando in terms of Composite ratings: Jean DeLance- 94.57 (Texas transfer) Brett Heggie- 86.56 Stone Forsythe- 84.37 Nick Buchanon- 82.74 Chris Bleich- Unranked Their...
  8. DMoney

    Here is a stat that will surprise some people

    It is very simple. We have no experience and are going against an experienced, high-level front. I think this OL has several NFL players and a bright future. But a line with two freshmen tackles, a sophomore guard and a sophomore center will have growing pains. The transition class in 2016...
  9. DMoney

    Here is a stat that will surprise some people

    Hopefully we add another OL to the NFL:
  10. DMoney

    Here is a stat that will surprise some people

    Is there a reason you are bumping this statistical fact? If so, please explain. As for this year’s OL, I’m not worried about the talent. We’ve recruited pretty well there the last three years. The concern is experience: one junior, two sophomores and two freshmen.
  11. DMoney

    Here is a stat that will surprise some people

    We go from tied for 1st to tied for 3rd. Still in the top group.
  12. DMoney

    Here is a stat that will surprise some people

    Nobody said we had Bama talent. That’s a straw man. I’m just posting facts. To the extent I’m “suggesting” anything, it’s what the numbers make plain: we are wasting colossal amounts of talent. Including on the OL.
  13. DMoney

    Here is a stat that will surprise some people

    In 2013, we had four NFL players and a first-team All-ACC center. Did that unit dominate? Did they even come close? It’s coaching, scheme (which you mentioned), strength and conditioning.
  14. DMoney

    Here is a stat that will surprise some people

    Would not surprise me. Their strength and conditioning in general is a huge advantage. They also have an elite medical staff. It is an NFL quality operation.
  15. DMoney

    Here is a stat that will surprise some people

    What grade? The NFC East? Or the ACC Coastal?
  16. DMoney

    Here is a stat that will surprise some people

    This is where you show your lack of perspective. Every program has some useless offensive linemen on its roster. Bruce Feldman wrote an entire article about it. A college personnel guy told him that every team has at least five OL busts on scholarship because of the nature of the position. Our...
  17. DMoney

    Here is a stat that will surprise some people

    Threads like this are about perspective. Fans often lack perspective when it comes to their own OL. It’s easy to see a weak-link tackle who gives up a sack. But we aren’t watching every game from every team. They have issues, too. Your references to Mahoney and the lack of depth only...
  18. DMoney

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  19. DMoney

    Here is a stat that will surprise some people

    Linder is the highest paid center in NFL history. Bryant McKinnie and Chris Myers made Pro Bowls. By comparison, Alabama has only produced one Pro Bowl OL since 2002 (Evan Mathis). We aren’t OL U. That’s Wisconsin or Iowa. But our front-line talent is miles ahead of what people think.
  20. DMoney

    Here is a stat that will surprise some people

    Our most dominant line ever (2001) didn't do much in the pros. Sherko was a CFL guy. Bibla lasted three years, Gonzalez lasted four years, Romberg lasted five years. The only consistent starter was McKinnie. They overachieved in college. By comparison, look at our 2013 line. Brandon Linder is...
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