The Work - Junior Day Edition

Feb 20, 2016

**Today was Miami’s first junior day under Mark Richt. Check here for a list of visitors and general updates from the day (shoutout to [MENTION=8971]Geo305[/MENTION] and [MENTION=10499]ErickMarreroU[/MENTION] for their work) - https://www.canesinsight.com/thread/february-20th-junior-day-attendees/97492/15 - This edition of the work will focus on insider's notes from today's happenings.

**Potentially the biggest development from today is Miami making an extremely positive move with Daytona Mainland Safety Cyrus F'agan, who is the #2 safety in the country according to 247. F'agan made the trip for junior day with both of his parents. Not only were F'agan and his family there for the day, but they also stayed afterwards for the baseball game with Safeties Coach Ephraim Banda. The Canes believe that this visit has moved them right near the top for F'agan.

**Miami is the frontrunner for Palm Beach Gardens safety Amari Carter and today only strengthened their chances. Commitment watch looming.

**Mater Academy CB Latavious Brini was offered by Miami last week and I mentioned it would be a battle for him. Brini was up in Tallahassee this weekend but will be on Miami’s campus this upcoming Thursday with his parents. Canes feeling confident here and that would be a huge pickup. Brini has the length that this staff is looking for. Banda is on him hard.

--Sidenote: Banda is absolutely killing it from what I’ve been told. He is a star on this staff from a recruiting standpoint.

**Norland Offensive Tackle Kadeem Telfort is currently a UF commit, but was previously committed to the Canes. He was on campus today and Miami believes that they are right in the thick of things for him. A flip would not surprise me. Telfort is a top priority for OL Coach Stacy Searels.

**Kathleen LB Ventrell Miller is a big target for the Canes right now. The defensive staff absolutely loves him. In a year that linebacker numbers will be small, Miller is a take for Miami and they like their chances after today.

**N’Kosi Perry decommitted from Miami a couple weeks ago, but he is the top target by far at the quarterback position right now. Mark Richt is a huge believer in Perry, so that should silence some talk that the new staff dropped Perry. Let me make that clear – Perry is one of the top prospects on Miami’s board for 2017 – all positions included.

**STA WR Trevon Grimes was in attendance for today’s junior day. Ohio State is the favorite, but Miami will not go down without a fight and it is important to note that Grimes is listening – this is not a one-way thing.

**This next sentence should be music to Canes fans ears. The defensive board consists solely of prospects from the state of Florida. Manny Diaz is making it an absolute priority to recruit Dade, Broward, and Palm Beach before all else. He does not want to have to look out of the state for kids. Now does that mean there won’t wind up being an out of state signee in this class? Of course not, but this is the philosophy that Canes fans and even outsiders have suggested should be used for years.

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Canesontherise

Feb 21, 2016

TheMatador said:
919Cane2DaGrave said:

CanesFactory said:

919Cane2DaGrave said:

Cyrus Faygan, Banda, Diaz all behind home plate right now on Espn3

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Just those 3 or more recruits with them?

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I think some GA'S are with them. No other recruits. Faygan and his dad are in front of Diaz and Banda, intermingled with goofy looking whiten guys.

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I know, they're always goofy looking...and I can't tell them apart. They all look the same to me.

ya, those goofy looking whiten guys all look alike..

jkaz1

Feb 21, 2016

Yep. This is Miami. You still need to cherry pick big-time national players - especially at DT - each and every year....

We should always have a lot of Florida players, but 60-70% is a better number, in my opinion - I think this is about where it's been historically, too....(during the good history, anyway....)

brock said:
5XNC said:

it should consist of 100% florida players and 80% south florida players. we used to have to leave the state for a few positions, but, the state and south florida now produce enough olinemen and qbs to not leave. unless a kid express a desire to come here, send out the letters and offers and gauge interest and recruit accordingly.

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Nope, always need elite players from out of state. Some of Miami's best players ever and best players on this team are from out of state.... Bama, Clemson, Fsu, Oklahoma, Ohiostate recruit at a national level, they are not only winning big because of south Florida players. Miami must add to our Florida talent base with the elite players from out of state

Billy D Williams

Feb 21, 2016

Great news on C. F-agan, A. Carter, Lat Brini, K. Telfort and my man V. Miller. Would have liked to hear some news on K. Daley and the LB from Sabastian, brother with a spanish name.

For those wining about Diaz stating his focus would be PB, Broward and Dade, please re-read the last 3 words of that write up, "before all else". Nowhere does it state they wouldn't recruit players OOS.

Billy D Williams

Feb 21, 2016

Geo305 said:
Peter Ariz said:

brock said:

Peter Ariz said:

Shawn Davis should be a cane soon

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**** we might lock up this db class by spring

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Yup. Miami believes this could be the top DB class in the country.

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Something even scarier..... 2018 has a very good chance of doing that too at DB.

No reason why Miami should not be loaded in the secondary again very soon.

"Stock When Abundant". Bama loads up every year. They don't fear scarring away top talent by signing top talent at every position every year. I'll accept an extra super talent at say DB and for numbers sake say sacrifice signing a solid RB, just to improve the talent level. There will always be classes where you can't fully meet your numbers needs at any given position, but when opportunity presents itself to sign 1 extra talent to any given position when there is a surplus of talent at said position then you have to do it. Now if you forecast that SoFL will always have an ample supply of elite skill guys then maybe you keep position numbers primary.

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bear

Feb 21, 2016

pete back= we back! After last year's miss on Db's looks like the new staff is addressing that position of need with STUDS. Love the staff...

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ljmcane

Feb 21, 2016

kind of suprised Perry is that big a priority...

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caneallday21

Feb 21, 2016

ljmcane said:
kind of suprised Perry is that big a priority...

Idk why I mean he's a stud and with a couple years to polish him may mkr this kid a top 5 qb prospect when he leaves. He's THAT GOOD

brock

Feb 21, 2016

ljmcane said:
kind of suprised Perry is that big a priority...

Has an elite arm, elusive in the pocket as well as good height. Not surprised at all

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Danjll

Feb 21, 2016

Odin said:
Someone can refresh my memory but in the last 15-20 years other than Ed Reed what DB did we sign that was a stud here.Same with LB DJ and Mcintosh are the only 2 standouts I can remember.We really don't need to leave the state at these 2 positions.Now DT we definetely need to steal one from Georgia,Louisiana or nationally every year.

Sean Taylor

AUcane

Feb 21, 2016

brock said:
ljmcane said:

kind of suprised Perry is that big a priority...

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Has an elite arm, elusive in the pocket as well as good height. Not surprised at all

This but would like to see him get into the 180s this upcoming season.

rsa coral gables

Feb 21, 2016

did anyone sign a NLOI today? before we crown panda or anyone as a great recruiter, perhaps we should wait for the full cycle to conclude next winter with actual signings, which is what counts. here's hoping that he and richt and everyone else does well, but i need to see the tangible evidence before, por favor.

MDOcane

Feb 21, 2016

rsa coral gables said:
did anyone sign a NLOI today? before we crown panda or anyone as a great recruiter, perhaps we should wait for the full cycle to conclude next winter with actual signings, which is what counts. here's hoping that he and richt and everyone else does well, but i need to see the tangible evidence before, por favor.

this is an easy stance to take. however, now is when relationships are built. richt will be the closer, but now is when players start building relationships and trust in their future position coaches. nothing wrong in appreciating the positive feedback that recruits are giving banda. ****, i never heard 1 **** prospect say anything positive about the previous db coach. let's appreciate the current and worry about NSD when it comes. just my 2 cents

SoCalPete73

Feb 21, 2016

edge said:
Did Golden do anything right?

His loss to Clemson gave the university reason to fire him...does that count?

jkaz1

Feb 21, 2016

If you mean out-of-state players, these were a few other decent ones:

James Lewis was a decent S from NJ that Butch brought in...

Howard Clark was a top-ranked LB out of NJ, Leon Williams the #2 LB in the country out of Brooklyn Canarsie, Chris Campbell was a solid LB for us out of TX...

These players were all during the Butch era.

Going back 20 years gets us into the 90s - we had some others from TX and LA during that time that were decent, but I don't feel like looking into it...

Danjll said:
Odin said:

Someone can refresh my memory but in the last 15-20 years other than Ed Reed what DB did we sign that was a stud here.Same with LB DJ and Mcintosh are the only 2 standouts I can remember.We really don't need to leave the state at these 2 positions.Now DT we definetely need to steal one from Georgia,Louisiana or nationally every year.

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Sean Taylor

maurice3p

Feb 21, 2016

ljmcane said:
kind of suprised Perry is that big a priority...

I agree. He looks like Jordan Jefferson(LSU) on tape. His throwing motion is horrendous.

The QB from Cali is better than Perry. Bad year for QB's in Florida, and Florida isn't a hotbed for QB talent.

I think he ends up at Tennessee

PSU Cane

Feb 21, 2016

brock said:
I think Miami's class should consist of 75-80 percent Florida players every year. Leave the rest for elite players in areas like ga, Cali, Nola, New Jersey

Completely agree. I think it's great to make your main focus the local kids, reclaim the "State of Miami". However, every year there are kids who always leave, kids who don't qualify, kids who have sketchy off field issues or character concerns, etc. You can't limit your focus and take plan B/C kids locally just to prove a point or keep local coaches happy. You must continue to branch out nationally for studs and to spread the U brand.

I also think bringing kids in from different cultural and regional backgrounds can help the culture of the team.

PSU Cane

Feb 21, 2016

5XNC said:
it should consist of 100% florida players and 80% south florida players. we used to have to leave the state for a few positions, but, the state and south florida now produce enough olinemen and qbs to not leave. unless a kid express a desire to come here, send out the letters and offers and gauge interest and recruit accordingly.

I disagree with this. When you limit your focus and limit your options, you limit the potential of your team.

You wouldn't do this in the business world either. You always recruit top talent acoss the country to grow as a business. Sports is no different.

Zbrod95

Feb 21, 2016

PSU Cane said:
5XNC said:

it should consist of 100% florida players and 80% south florida players. we used to have to leave the state for a few positions, but, the state and south florida now produce enough olinemen and qbs to not leave. unless a kid express a desire to come here, send out the letters and offers and gauge interest and recruit accordingly.

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I disagree with this. When you limit your focus and limit your options, you limit the potential of your team.

You wouldn't do this in the business world either. You always recruit top talent acoss the country to grow as a business. Sports is no different.

If this worked Mack brown would still be the coach at Texas

PSU Cane

Feb 21, 2016

Odin said:
Someone can refresh my memory but in the last 15-20 years other than Ed Reed what DB did we sign that was a stud here.Same with LB DJ and Mcintosh are the only 2 standouts I can remember.We really don't need to leave the state at these 2 positions.Now DT we definetely need to steal one from Georgia,Louisiana or nationally every year.

On the 2001 team alone, the guys below were all OOS Starters:
QB - K. Dorsey - California
TE - J. Shockey - Oklahoma
WR - D. Jones - Texas
OL - B. McKinnie - NJ
OL - S. Haji-Rasouli - Canada
OL - B. Romberg - Canada
OL - M. Bibla - Pennsylvania
LB - DJ Williams - California
LB - C. Campbell - Texas
DB - E. Reed - Louisianna
DB - J. Lewis - NJ

Also on that team were:
TE - K. Winslow -California
LB - R. McIntosh - South Carolina
LB - H. Clark - NJ
DL - J. Green - NJ

Other notable players over the last 15 years:
DL - C. Campbell - Colorado
DL - A. Bailey - Georgia
DL - C. Porter - North Carolina
LB - L. Williams - NY
LB - A. Brown - Kansas
DB - C. Elder - Tennessee
OL - E. Winston - Texas
OL - J. Fox - Texas
OL - S. Henderson - Minnesota
TE - G. Olsen - NJ
TE - J. Graham - North Carolina (yes i know, not recruited for football but still)
QB - B. Kayaa - California

And others still on the roster:
WR - L. Cager - Maryland
WR - B. Berrios - North Carolina
TE - D. Njoku - NJ
RB - G. Edwards - NY
OL - B. Milo - California
LB - J. Young - Georgia
DL - A. Muhammad - NJ
DL - C. Jenkins - NJ

I think there are PLENTY of Florida athletes at RB, WR, LB and DB that we probably only need to poach OOS Studs once in a while, but to not look OOS at all would have meant a lot of missed opportunities over the years and a lot less NFL stars repping the U.