The Work 6-30

The Work 6-30

Peter Ariz
Peter Ariz

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Idc either I'm just saying maybe that's his mindset.

What I can tell you about this is that look at the history of schools that brought 3 RBs in at once and see how things broke down from there. One of the biggest differences now as opposed to when we had a stable is because there were upperclassmen and everyone knew you work your tail off and wait for your opportunity. Our depth chart is very young once Duke is removed and for a RB there are only so many reps someone will get left out. Funny thing is he is the only one that has let it be known about not being cool with it but trust me he isn't the only one thinking that. RBs are now a dime a dozen and these kids know that and that's why it's important to get on the field and show what you can do early.

He has never said the staff lied to him and he has had many conversations with the staff about this and is choosing to see how the staff handles the situation. He committed to a situation that fit him best and just so happens to be his favorite but what many people fail to realize is this is a business decision and you have to take the emotion out of the decision and think logically. Sometimes you have to take off the orange and green sunglasses.


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I've watched Cronkrite's film if he wants to decommit bye!

I think he's an average running back with average speed. His vision and balance are average. Also physically he looks maxed out. I might be speculating, but I fee like out of the 3 Williams/Walton ------ then Cronkrite.

But you're closer to the situation. So I will just end it with this. If he's not cool with it then decommit sooner rather than later.

I totally disagree
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Ranking Cronk 3rd behind Williams and Walton is a lot different than the rest of the criticism. If he is as average as the poster claims, then he should be a distant 3rd behind Williams and Walton and many don't see it that way.

But then again maybe the bed in the Holiday Inn Express was really comfortable last night for our internet recruiting experts.
 
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This poster gets it. I don't think we have the necessary depth at RB yet. Especially if there is an injury or two. For those reasons I hope we get another RB commit and I hope that the staff can then hold on to cronkrite because he adds to the overall position group.

Taking 3 backs is a very smart move if possible. LSU has three RB committed for this years class after signing Fournette and Darrel Williams last year cycle. Need I mention Alabama taking Tenpenny, Kamara, Tyren Jones and Derrick Henry in 2013. You recruit to gain symmetry and have back ups that have the same talent as your starter and experience. The running back position takes a pounding and if you don't have a stable your offense is usually hurting.

Duke will be a junior this year and the only back that has his kind of talent is Yearby. Right now the depth goes Duke, Gus, and most likely Yearby as your backs. One gets injured and you either are going to have 2 studs or 1 stud and 1 good back. Skip to 2015, it would be nice to have 3 backs with experience and play the best out of the 3 incoming backs. If Duke were to leave, you would have 2 backs with experience and have 3 talented freshman compete for that 3rd spot and redshirt the other 2 knowing they are going to see the field their sophomore year.
 
This poster gets it. I don't think we have the necessary depth at RB yet. Especially if there is an injury or two. For those reasons I hope we get another RB commit and I hope that the staff can then hold on to cronkrite because he adds to the overall position group.

Taking 3 backs is a very smart move if possible. LSU has three RB committed for this years class after signing Fournette and Darrel Williams last year cycle. Need I mention Alabama taking Tenpenny, Kamara, Tyren Jones and Derrick Henry in 2013. You recruit to gain symmetry and have back ups that have the same talent as your starter and experience. The running back position takes a pounding and if you don't have a stable your offense is usually hurting.

Duke will be a junior this year and the only back that has his kind of talent is Yearby. Right now the depth goes Duke, Gus, and most likely Yearby as your backs. One gets injured and you either are going to have 2 studs or 1 stud and 1 good back. Skip to 2015, it would be nice to have 3 backs with experience and play the best out of the 3 incoming backs. If Duke were to leave, you would have 2 backs with experience and have 3 talented freshman compete for that 3rd spot and redshirt the other 2 knowing they are going to see the field their sophomore year.

I don't think anyone with 2 brain cells to rub together is debating ether we SHOULD sign 3 studs per year...
 
What I can tell you about this is that look at the history of schools that brought 3 RBs in at once and see how things broke down from there. One of the biggest differences now as opposed to when we had a stable is because there were upperclassmen and everyone knew you work your tail off and wait for your opportunity. Our depth chart is very young once Duke is removed and for a RB there are only so many reps someone will get left out. Funny thing is he is the only one that has let it be known about not being cool with it but trust me he isn't the only one thinking that. RBs are now a dime a dozen and these kids know that and that's why it's important to get on the field and show what you can do early.

He has never said the staff lied to him and he has had many conversations with the staff about this and is choosing to see how the staff handles the situation. He committed to a situation that fit him best and just so happens to be his favorite but what many people fail to realize is this is a business decision and you have to take the emotion out of the decision and think logically. Sometimes you have to take off the orange and green sunglasses.


TOKEN
I've watched Cronkrite's film if he wants to decommit bye!

I think he's an average running back with average speed. His vision and balance are average. Also physically he looks maxed out. I might be speculating, but I fee like out of the 3 Williams/Walton ------ then Cronkrite.

But you're closer to the situation. So I will just end it with this. If he's not cool with it then decommit sooner rather than later.

I totally disagree
x2

Ranking Cronk 3rd behind Williams and Walton is a lot different than the rest of the criticism. If he is as average as the poster claims, then he should be a distant 3rd behind Williams and Walton and many don't see it that way.

But then again maybe the bed in the Holiday Inn Express was really comfortable last night for our internet recruiting experts.

I have my opinion and y'all have yours....
 
TOKEN
I've watched Cronkrite's film if he wants to decommit bye!

I think he's an average running back with average speed. His vision and balance are average. Also physically he looks maxed out. I might be speculating, but I fee like out of the 3 Williams/Walton ------ then Cronkrite.

But you're closer to the situation. So I will just end it with this. If he's not cool with it then decommit sooner rather than later.

I totally disagree
x2

Ranking Cronk 3rd behind Williams and Walton is a lot different than the rest of the criticism. If he is as average as the poster claims, then he should be a distant 3rd behind Williams and Walton and many don't see it that way.

But then again maybe the bed in the Holiday Inn Express was really comfortable last night for our internet recruiting experts.

I have my opinion and y'all have yours....

X3
 
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Everyone gets so caught up on numbers, SMH. You can have 4 "RB's" come in one class and one ends up on defense, another doesn't make grades, another is used as a FB/HB, and another flunks out, and you have zero. Its called recruiting a deep team.
Exactly...... How many 4 or 5star running backs do UGA or Alabama have? Why people think miami can't do the same is beyond me......
Remember we had Portis, Mcgahee, and gore in the backfield at the same time.....

We also had Najeh Davenport along with that group. When he was a senior in HS, he was one of the top RBs in the country. I guess maybe his knew injury at the U prevented a great career after that.
 
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This poster gets it. I don't think we have the necessary depth at RB yet. Especially if there is an injury or two. For those reasons I hope we get another RB commit and I hope that the staff can then hold on to cronkrite because he adds to the overall position group.

Taking 3 backs is a very smart move if possible. LSU has three RB committed for this years class after signing Fournette and Darrel Williams last year cycle. Need I mention Alabama taking Tenpenny, Kamara, Tyren Jones and Derrick Henry in 2013. You recruit to gain symmetry and have back ups that have the same talent as your starter and experience. The running back position takes a pounding and if you don't have a stable your offense is usually hurting.

Duke will be a junior this year and the only back that has his kind of talent is Yearby. Right now the depth goes Duke, Gus, and most likely Yearby as your backs. One gets injured and you either are going to have 2 studs or 1 stud and 1 good back. Skip to 2015, it would be nice to have 3 backs with experience and play the best out of the 3 incoming backs. If Duke were to leave, you would have 2 backs with experience and have 3 talented freshman compete for that 3rd spot and redshirt the other 2 knowing they are going to see the field their sophomore year.

There was a point in time where our RB group consisted of Clinton Portis, Willis McGahee and Frank Gore all in one season. You wouldn't know that because when Gore went down the first time, Portis made you forget. When he went down the second time, McGahee made you forget. Then he took his spot at the top of the group and did his things here. That was quality depth. An All Pro player goes down and the team doesn't skip a best.
 
This poster gets it. I don't think we have the necessary depth at RB yet. Especially if there is an injury or two. For those reasons I hope we get another RB commit and I hope that the staff can then hold on to cronkrite because he adds to the overall position group.

Taking 3 backs is a very smart move if possible. LSU has three RB committed for this years class after signing Fournette and Darrel Williams last year cycle. Need I mention Alabama taking Tenpenny, Kamara, Tyren Jones and Derrick Henry in 2013. You recruit to gain symmetry and have back ups that have the same talent as your starter and experience. The running back position takes a pounding and if you don't have a stable your offense is usually hurting.

Duke will be a junior this year and the only back that has his kind of talent is Yearby. Right now the depth goes Duke, Gus, and most likely Yearby as your backs. One gets injured and you either are going to have 2 studs or 1 stud and 1 good back. Skip to 2015, it would be nice to have 3 backs with experience and play the best out of the 3 incoming backs. If Duke were to leave, you would have 2 backs with experience and have 3 talented freshman compete for that 3rd spot and redshirt the other 2 knowing they are going to see the field their sophomore year.

There was a point in time where our RB group consisted of Clinton Portis, Willis McGahee and Frank Gore all in one season. You wouldn't know that because when Gore went down the first time, Portis made you forget. When he went down the second time, McGahee made you forget. Then he took his spot at the top of the group and did his things here. That was quality depth. An All Pro player goes down and the team doesn't skip a best.

That is a great example of quality depth but my point is they all didn't come in one class. You get 2 per year is the average. Problem is we have no depth which is due to transfers, the draft and bad recruiting. Getting 3 in one year won't solve it because then you only take 1 next year which down the road can lead to some problems. We aren't the only school with a depth chart that looks like ours and for the most part they are all only taking 2 backs.
 
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This poster gets it. I don't think we have the necessary depth at RB yet. Especially if there is an injury or two. For those reasons I hope we get another RB commit and I hope that the staff can then hold on to cronkrite because he adds to the overall position group.

Taking 3 backs is a very smart move if possible. LSU has three RB committed for this years class after signing Fournette and Darrel Williams last year cycle. Need I mention Alabama taking Tenpenny, Kamara, Tyren Jones and Derrick Henry in 2013. You recruit to gain symmetry and have back ups that have the same talent as your starter and experience. The running back position takes a pounding and if you don't have a stable your offense is usually hurting.

Duke will be a junior this year and the only back that has his kind of talent is Yearby. Right now the depth goes Duke, Gus, and most likely Yearby as your backs. One gets injured and you either are going to have 2 studs or 1 stud and 1 good back. Skip to 2015, it would be nice to have 3 backs with experience and play the best out of the 3 incoming backs. If Duke were to leave, you would have 2 backs with experience and have 3 talented freshman compete for that 3rd spot and redshirt the other 2 knowing they are going to see the field their sophomore year.

There was a point in time where our RB group consisted of Clinton Portis, Willis McGahee and Frank Gore all in one season. You wouldn't know that because when Gore went down the first time, Portis made you forget. When he went down the second time, McGahee made you forget. Then he took his spot at the top of the group and did his things here. That was quality depth. An All Pro player goes down and the team doesn't skip a best.

That is a great example of quality depth but my point is they all didn't come in one class. You get 2 per year is the average. Problem is we have no depth which is due to transfers, the draft and bad recruiting. Getting 3 in one year won't solve it because then you only take 1 next year which down the road can lead to some problems. We aren't the only school with a depth chart that looks like ours and for the most part they are all only taking 2 backs.

Just to correct wherrera's post, when Gore went down the first time, Portis was gone. McGahee "made you forget" the first time. Jarrett Payton stepped in the second time although we missed Gore bigtime in that loss to TENN. I remember everyone on grassy complaining that Coker didn't give Tyrone Moss (a freshman at the time) one single carry in that game. Supposedly, Coker said he wasn't ready because he didn't know the playbook. When our asses were in trouble against Syracuse the very next week though, amazingly enough Moss played and was crucial in the win.

With that said, if not for Gore going down the first time,and a momma that was **** bent on not letting him quit, there's a good chance that we never see the McGahee that we so fondly remember. It worked out for him, but it could have easily went the other way. Taking away my UM bias, Cronkrite should definitely take into consideration that 3 backs may be coming in during the same year.
 
This poster gets it. I don't think we have the necessary depth at RB yet. Especially if there is an injury or two. For those reasons I hope we get another RB commit and I hope that the staff can then hold on to cronkrite because he adds to the overall position group.

Taking 3 backs is a very smart move if possible. LSU has three RB committed for this years class after signing Fournette and Darrel Williams last year cycle. Need I mention Alabama taking Tenpenny, Kamara, Tyren Jones and Derrick Henry in 2013. You recruit to gain symmetry and have back ups that have the same talent as your starter and experience. The running back position takes a pounding and if you don't have a stable your offense is usually hurting.

Duke will be a junior this year and the only back that has his kind of talent is Yearby. Right now the depth goes Duke, Gus, and most likely Yearby as your backs. One gets injured and you either are going to have 2 studs or 1 stud and 1 good back. Skip to 2015, it would be nice to have 3 backs with experience and play the best out of the 3 incoming backs. If Duke were to leave, you would have 2 backs with experience and have 3 talented freshman compete for that 3rd spot and redshirt the other 2 knowing they are going to see the field their sophomore year.

There was a point in time where our RB group consisted of Clinton Portis, Willis McGahee and Frank Gore all in one season. You wouldn't know that because when Gore went down the first time, Portis made you forget. When he went down the second time, McGahee made you forget. Then he took his spot at the top of the group and did his things here. That was quality depth. An All Pro player goes down and the team doesn't skip a best.

That is a great example of quality depth but my point is they all didn't come in one class. You get 2 per year is the average. Problem is we have no depth which is due to transfers, the draft and bad recruiting. Getting 3 in one year won't solve it because then you only take 1 next year which down the road can lead to some problems. We aren't the only school with a depth chart that looks like ours and for the most part they are all only taking 2 backs.

Correct. If you are comparing the backs between the 2015 class and 2016 class, besides Mark Walton, there is better talent at the position in the 2015 class than there is in 2016. Not to mention Walton maybe in the 2015 class when it's all said and done. I see the backs being Cronkite, Scarlett and Walton if he does re classify. The main thing is communicating to these recruits. Talk about keeping your word, what do you tell Walton that has been committed since last year? Do you say " hey since you are re classifying this messes us up and we no longer have a scholarship for you"?
 
This poster gets it. I don't think we have the necessary depth at RB yet. Especially if there is an injury or two. For those reasons I hope we get another RB commit and I hope that the staff can then hold on to cronkrite because he adds to the overall position group.

Taking 3 backs is a very smart move if possible. LSU has three RB committed for this years class after signing Fournette and Darrel Williams last year cycle. Need I mention Alabama taking Tenpenny, Kamara, Tyren Jones and Derrick Henry in 2013. You recruit to gain symmetry and have back ups that have the same talent as your starter and experience. The running back position takes a pounding and if you don't have a stable your offense is usually hurting.

Duke will be a junior this year and the only back that has his kind of talent is Yearby. Right now the depth goes Duke, Gus, and most likely Yearby as your backs. One gets injured and you either are going to have 2 studs or 1 stud and 1 good back. Skip to 2015, it would be nice to have 3 backs with experience and play the best out of the 3 incoming backs. If Duke were to leave, you would have 2 backs with experience and have 3 talented freshman compete for that 3rd spot and redshirt the other 2 knowing they are going to see the field their sophomore year.

There was a point in time where our RB group consisted of Clinton Portis, Willis McGahee and Frank Gore all in one season. You wouldn't know that because when Gore went down the first time, Portis made you forget. When he went down the second time, McGahee made you forget. Then he took his spot at the top of the group and did his things here. That was quality depth. An All Pro player goes down and the team doesn't skip a best.

That is a great example of quality depth but my point is they all didn't come in one class. You get 2 per year is the average. Problem is we have no depth which is due to transfers, the draft and bad recruiting. Getting 3 in one year won't solve it because then you only take 1 next year which down the road can lead to some problems. We aren't the only school with a depth chart that looks like ours and for the most part they are all only taking 2 backs.

Correct. If you are comparing the backs between the 2015 class and 2016 class, besides Mark Walton, there is better talent at the position in the 2015 class than there is in 2016. Not to mention Walton maybe in the 2015 class when it's all said and done. I see the backs being Cronkite, Scarlett and Walton if he does re classify. The main thing is communicating to these recruits. Talk about keeping your word, what do you tell Walton that has been committed since last year? Do you say " hey since you are re classifying this messes us up and we no longer have a scholarship for you"?

They can't do that to Walton because he is a pipeline kid and the staff can not ***** that up.
 
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