Post-camp thoughts

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I think we will be good but I am skeptical until I see the WRs.

Our Savior is either CJ Daniels, who was the 4th best receiver at LSU and they didnt want him back or Toney a 3/4 star Freshman not a 5* star like Smith and Williams. If CJ is the guy then no shot at a championship, he can't be our best WR.
 
I think we will be good but I am skeptical until I see the WRs.

Our Savior is either CJ Daniels, who was the 4th best receiver at LSU and they didnt want him back or Toney a 3/4 star Freshman not a 5* star like Smith and Williams. If CJ is the guy then no shot at a championship, he can't be our best WR.

toney was a high 4* before he reclassified TrumpyCane believes
 
As we shift to game week, I wanted to share some of my big picture thoughts from camp. This is based on my personal observations and sources.

- There's real confidence in Coral Gables. Everybody was excited last year, but there were deep concerns at defensive back. This year, there’s no glaring deficiency coming out of camp. That doesn’t mean the team is perfect, and the adversity of a college season will expose holes. But most veteran observers (myself included) believe this is the most complete roster in a couple decades.

- The biggest difference between this year and last year is the talent at defensive back. I believe this will be one of the best cornerback rooms in America. OJ Frederique had a great summer after a Freshman All-American season. Xavier Lucas and Damari Brown are 6+, 200+ pounders who can run. Ethan O’Connor turned down Georgia after picking off four passes as a freshman. This is a long, athletic group with good instincts. Charles Brantley would have been a slam-dunk starter last year and he might be #5.

- We also have a true nickel in Keionte Scott. Last year, Daryl Porter (a natural outside corner) took one for the team and moved inside. Scott is someone who majors in nickel and has NFL size/speed.

- Safety isn’t as spectacular as corner, but it's significantly improved. Zechariah Poyser and Jakobe Thomas are SEC-caliber safeties who can tackle. Bryce Fitzgerald might be the best athlete on the team. If he tackles on gameday, he won't leave the field. Bobby Pruitt can help at S and LB. Dylan Day and Markeith Williams are capable depth as well. This time last year, we were hoping for a Zaquan Patterson breakthrough. The room is a much better place now.

- The other big story is Carson Beck. He looks like a first round pick. His game has a nice combination of power and finesse. He’s a former third baseman who can drive the ball, but he also has some Dorsey in him. The ball leaves his hands fast. I don’t think we’ll be more “efficient” on offense- Ward’s offense was the best in America by a mile- but we should be very good.

- I have no concerns about our offensive line and running backs. They look the part and play the part. We should run the ball as well as anybody in America.

- At receiver, the most talented players are young guys like JoJo Trader, Josh Moore and Malachi Toney. We’ve seen it on Greentree, but they'll need to prove it in games. The safest bet to me is Toney. I think he leads the team in receiving. The veteran transfers (CJ Daniels, Keelan Marion, Tony Johnson) raise our floor. I expect all three to play against Notre Dame, and they have winning attitudes. Chance Robinson is a homegrown player trending in the right direction. He’s a big body who can get open and move the chains.

- I don’t think one player will replace Elijah Arroyo. His ability to get downfield at 6'4, 250 is rare. But this is a solid group. Elija Lofton is a complete player who will have a huge impact on the offense. I still think his NFL future is in the backfield. Tulane transfer Alex Bauman has bulked up and brings experience in the red zone. Freshman Luka Gilbert is massive (6’7, 265) and coordinated. He’ll play early.

- We’re starting to look the part on the defensive line. Many around the Hecht believe Rueben Bain will have a superstar season in this defense. Akheem Mesidor is a sixth-year player with real production (36 career TFLs and 23 sacks). He’s in great shape and playing his more natural outside spot. The guy who deserves more hype is David Blay, the Louisiana Tech transfer. He’s added weight and is generating buzz with NFL scouts. Blay is not an elite athlete, but he doesn’t stay blocked and battles double teams. The former five stars have all flashed throughout camp. For me, the safest bet in that group is Armondo Blount. He’s only 18 and has the total package of size, speed, power, nastiness and IQ.

- We’ve come a long way physically at linebacker since the Manny years. Mo Toure is the prototype, and Wesley Bissainthe has bulked up from 190 to a lean 230. Both guys have tons of experience. There’s more depth in the room, too. Kamal Bonner and Jaylin Alderman were ACC starters, Popo Aguirre played a bunch last year, Chase Smith is a fifth-year guy, and the freshmen Kellen Wiley (6’4, 238) has NFL tools.

- At kicker, the battle continues. Bert Auburn has made a lot of kicks in big games. Carter Davis is less experienced with field goals but has top-of-the-scale leg strength. His upside and improvement has made this a much closer battle than reported.

Overall, I share the confidence of the staff. This is a good and balanced team. I won't try to evaluate Corey Hetherman as an amateur watching from the sideline, but everyone is raving and the defense looks more connected to my untrained eye. If that side makes a 2016-type leap, and Beck stays healthy, this team will be a contender.
As usual thank you D for the in-depth analysis. I was concerned with the D. Last year was a disaster. Here’s hoping for a good year and no blown games.
 
We will revisit this.

Only miami fans would nitpick the best qb in the country leading an historically great offense to oh he didn’t take checkdowns so we should be more efficient

And saying cam who was literally lights out vs Syracuse cost us the game and not the historically bad defense or the terrible coaching is insane

Every year a top player leaves yall nit pick and just automatically say the new guy will do something better. Remember people said meesh and jaden would play within the system more than kam and james? This is basically this year’s version of that

Yall will learn the hard way again
Again, if we would’ve taken the check down, we would’ve won both those games. Those are facts, as the check down was open all night in both of them. I love Cam and he was great but he would’ve been even better had he taken the check down now and then instead of big game hunting on very single play.
 
Cam had 14 interceptions the last two years on 939 attempts in two different offenses

Beck had 12 interceptions on 448 attempts last year

This is either rage bait or you’re one of the dumbest people on earth lol
Again, Cams interceptions where mostly from staying in the pocket way to long and throwing a pick. Had he taken the check down, it wouldn’t have thrown them. Beck will take the check down.
 
Have you played FB at a high level? Nope, you are a CIS posters that has had bad takes since 2006. We know why you slurp and defend Mario. We lost the GT cause of our **** defense that couldn't defend against one arm QB and we lost to GT cause we decided to stop feeding Martinez and also cause of our **** defense. Cam made the running game look good. Nobody was saying lets stop the run besides mental midgets like you.

Also Mario your boy, should have fired the Hick from Louisiana like week 8
Yes I have, I played college ball. Did you?
 
Cam had 14 interceptions the last two years on 939 attempts in two different offenses

Beck had 12 interceptions on 448 attempts last year

This is either rage bait or you’re one of the dumbest people on earth lol
Just to play devils advocate, agree that Beck through more INTs can't argue that, do we know how many fumbles that Beck has been accounted for as well?

Just wondering if turnovers (i.e., Fumbles and INT) can be accounted together.
If it similar numbers then, maybe we gain a bit in that regard.

I have no idea what the numbers are and I'm not trying to argue one way or the other, but if we can keep the same amount of turnovers offensively at the number but improve that differential on defense, its a net positive for the team.

Cam was the man, it's hard to follow that up.
 
Cam had 14 interceptions the last two years on 939 attempts in two different offenses

Beck had 12 interceptions on 448 attempts last year

This is either rage bait or you’re one of the dumbest people on earth lol
Let me guess, you were the same person putting down Cam Ward this time last year because he apparently had a fumbling problem. Half this board was in panic mode because he had 12 fumbles in 2023, 7 in 2022, and 12 in 2021

With an upgraded O-line, WRs and RBs- I'm not too worried about Beck's interceptions in this system
 
Really excited for Beck. I actually think he’s superior to Cam in some areas. Maybe not #1 overall but hopefully more consistent (less hot/cold). I say that with the upmost respect. Cam was a winner, an alpha & a program changer.. but Beck is elite as well. I think our balance on offense should help out the defense instead of uptempo, all gas 55-52 type showdowns.
 
Cam had 14 interceptions the last two years on 939 attempts in two different offenses

Beck had 12 interceptions on 448 attempts last year

This is either rage bait or you’re one of the dumbest people on earth lol
Beck forced the ball, it’s that simple. It’s not bc he’s dumb and can’t read defenses or he’s inaccurate. Trying to force the ball and make a play, having a below avg OL, and a running game u can’t rely on, will do that to u. I wonder how Cam performs in that UGA offense vs how he did in his Miami offense, drops from WRs and worse protection.
 
Really excited for Beck. I actually think he’s superior to Cam in some areas. Maybe not #1 overall but hopefully more consistent (less hot/cold). I say that with the upmost respect. Cam was a winner, an alpha & a program changer.. but Beck is elite as well. I think our balance on offense should help out the defense instead of uptempo, all gas 55-52 type showdowns.
Jfc
 
I know D said the offense won't be more "efficient" with Carson Beck unless I read that wrong. But I actually think it will be more efficient. It won't be as explosive but I think Beck will take what the defense is giving him. Like those check downs that Ward ignored. Which I also think cost us a chance at beating GT and Syracuse. Don't get me wrong though. Cam Ward was the best thing to happen to us and I have utmost respect for him and his game.
The Ward didn't take check downs thing is starting to take on a life of its own. Lol...Yes Ward didnt take "SOME" check downs as do all talented quarterbacks but lets not go overboard. It didnt happen enough times to make a drastic difference in how efficient our offense was last year like some people are trying to make it out to be. The way things get taken out of context and exaggerated in today's society is nauseating.
 
You could change the names and copy and paste this as a template for this version of Dmoney’s post every year. I don’t see it. Only thing I’m confident in is the running game. The rest is all hypothetical. Receiver and linebacker I think we have a lot of JAGs. Feel better about CB but not Safety. D Line is the classic where we have Jags who are gonna play over blue chips who eventuallly transfer

Hate to be Debbie Downer and would love to be wrong. But this year has 8-4 written all over it and a staring contest as we look at what we will be under Mario. Better than we’ve been, and sort of within striking distance, but gonna lose two dumb games minimum every year.
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We will revisit this.

Only miami fans would nitpick the best qb in the country leading an historically great offense to oh he didn’t take checkdowns so we should be more efficient

And saying cam who was literally lights out vs Syracuse cost us the game and not the historically bad defense or the terrible coaching is insane

Every year a top player leaves yall nit pick and just automatically say the new guy will do something better. Remember people said meesh and jaden would play within the system more than kam and james? This is basically this year’s version of that

Yall will learn the hard way again
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We will revisit this.

Only miami fans would nitpick the best qb in the country leading an historically great offense to oh he didn’t take checkdowns so we should be more efficient

And saying cam who was literally lights out vs Syracuse cost us the game and not the historically bad defense or the terrible coaching is insane

Every year a top player leaves yall nit pick and just automatically say the new guy will do something better. Remember people said meesh and jaden would play within the system more than kam and james? This is basically this year’s version of that

Yall will learn the hard way again
they did this last year in the game threads saying emory will make us more efficient. theyll never appreciate what we had in Cam last year. he was the best player to ever play here. period. he was the sole reason our offense was THE best in the country and what should have been a title winning offense (teams that elite on either side of the ball generally make the playoffs and win significantly). we were the bengals last year.
 
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