Podcast with Brad Kaaya

Podcast with Brad Kaaya

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Add Brad Kaaya to the list of Canes quarterbacks (after Dorsey) that nobody will care about in 5 years. Once people's emotional attachment to this JAG subside, they will see him for what he was. Somebody to not remember.
 
It's no negative consequence imo...If he had returned his game would have gotten further picked apart than it is now and it was an even DEEPER draft class in 2018. Take your chances with being a top 4 round draft pick. I mean give me a break statistically he had a great year and is still being picked apart. When was the last time Miami had a qb that played behind an oline like that and STILL put up 62% 3555 yards 28tds 7 ints? And played all the games while having serious injuries like the knee sprain, shoulder injury, concussion and turf toe...
That's just your opinion, man. And, I vehemently disagree with it.

It's right though, his stock would have declined even further and then what would you say then?
You think it's a guarantee his stock would have declined. It's a possibility, sure. It's also a possibility he would have improved on what's on the film: what scouts and anyone can see are problems in the pocket. Improve that film and he may have not only improved his stock, but also his chances of hanging around the league a little longer than the risk he's currently taking. Will he make it now? Who knows. Will he have made it if he stayed and improved? Who knows. However, you're speaking as if you absolutely know his stock would have declined if he stayed. That is merely an opinion.

Maybe, but you know as I know kaaya is who he is. Why risk playing with your future like that. He will be drafted im at least the first 4 rounds. It's easy to sit back and say it's a dumb decision when you aren't the player because it doesn't serve the Miami fans best interest but at the end of the day sometimes you got to take those chances.
No, I don't know that. Again, you're stating Kaaya "is who he is" and could not improve his stock by putting different film out or perhaps winning important games. You've assumed I think it's a mistake because it'd serve my (fan) interests and not Kaaya's. These are assumptions being passed as facts.
 
16 Ls over the span of three seasons might be the worst stretch ever by a starting QB here since the Gerald Ford administration.
 
meh, I'd listen if he had beat fsu.

Quite possibly nobody on the roster I am less interested in their thoughts on the canes than bard.

Good get for Pete I guess though.

some posters on here are insufferable

Easily the worst fans in America...

Keep crying superfans, maybe one day you'll get a fancy badge next to your name so everyone knows your status as superfans.

If criticism is due and deserved, don't cry when it's given. Not everyone is going to run to the town square and wish him well as he rides off to desert us.

Kaayak is 100% responsible for the loss against UNC, and quite possibly without that schoolboy INT against FSU we win that game, end the streak, and get to the ACC championship game while we're red hot. So don't expect people to pen a thank you letter for his time as a hurricane or gratitude for his time spent here.

Wasn't Kaaya's record

5-0 v UF&FSU

???


Oh wait. That was Brock Berlin


Kaaya was 0-4
 
That's just your opinion, man. And, I vehemently disagree with it.

It's right though, his stock would have declined even further and then what would you say then?
You think it's a guarantee his stock would have declined. It's a possibility, sure. It's also a possibility he would have improved on what's on the film: what scouts and anyone can see are problems in the pocket. Improve that film and he may have not only improved his stock, but also his chances of hanging around the league a little longer than the risk he's currently taking. Will he make it now? Who knows. Will he have made it if he stayed and improved? Who knows. However, you're speaking as if you absolutely know his stock would have declined if he stayed. That is merely an opinion.

Maybe, but you know as I know kaaya is who he is. Why risk playing with your future like that. He will be drafted im at least the first 4 rounds. It's easy to sit back and say it's a dumb decision when you aren't the player because it doesn't serve the Miami fans best interest but at the end of the day sometimes you got to take those chances.
No, I don't know that. Again, you're stating Kaaya "is who he is" and could not improve his stock by putting different film out or perhaps winning important games. You've assumed I think it's a mistake because it'd serve my (fan) interests and not Kaaya's. These are assumptions being passed as facts.
That's certainly sounds like what you are saying to me.
 
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16 Ls over the span of three seasons might be the worst stretch ever by a starting QB here since the Gerald Ford administration.

Lets not forget the D'no defenses he had to work with.
 
It's right though, his stock would have declined even further and then what would you say then?
You think it's a guarantee his stock would have declined. It's a possibility, sure. It's also a possibility he would have improved on what's on the film: what scouts and anyone can see are problems in the pocket. Improve that film and he may have not only improved his stock, but also his chances of hanging around the league a little longer than the risk he's currently taking. Will he make it now? Who knows. Will he have made it if he stayed and improved? Who knows. However, you're speaking as if you absolutely know his stock would have declined if he stayed. That is merely an opinion.

Maybe, but you know as I know kaaya is who he is. Why risk playing with your future like that. He will be drafted im at least the first 4 rounds. It's easy to sit back and say it's a dumb decision when you aren't the player because it doesn't serve the Miami fans best interest but at the end of the day sometimes you got to take those chances.
No, I don't know that. Again, you're stating Kaaya "is who he is" and could not improve his stock by putting different film out or perhaps winning important games. You've assumed I think it's a mistake because it'd serve my (fan) interests and not Kaaya's. These are assumptions being passed as facts.
That's certainly sounds like what you are saying to me.
What? You're saying I'm stating assumptions? I am. I'm giving my opinion. I'm not passing it off as an absolute, which is different than what you are doing.
 
You think it's a guarantee his stock would have declined. It's a possibility, sure. It's also a possibility he would have improved on what's on the film: what scouts and anyone can see are problems in the pocket. Improve that film and he may have not only improved his stock, but also his chances of hanging around the league a little longer than the risk he's currently taking. Will he make it now? Who knows. Will he have made it if he stayed and improved? Who knows. However, you're speaking as if you absolutely know his stock would have declined if he stayed. That is merely an opinion.

Maybe, but you know as I know kaaya is who he is. Why risk playing with your future like that. He will be drafted im at least the first 4 rounds. It's easy to sit back and say it's a dumb decision when you aren't the player because it doesn't serve the Miami fans best interest but at the end of the day sometimes you got to take those chances.
No, I don't know that. Again, you're stating Kaaya "is who he is" and could not improve his stock by putting different film out or perhaps winning important games. You've assumed I think it's a mistake because it'd serve my (fan) interests and not Kaaya's. These are assumptions being passed as facts.
That's certainly sounds like what you are saying to me.
What? You're saying I'm stating assumptions? I am. I'm giving my opinion. I'm not passing it off as an absolute, which is different than what you are doing.

Okay regardless man I hope he succeeds
 
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It's no negative consequence imo...If he had returned his game would have gotten further picked apart than it is now and it was an even DEEPER draft class in 2018. Take your chances with being a top 4 round draft pick. I mean give me a break statistically he had a great year and is still being picked apart. When was the last time Miami had a qb that played behind an oline like that and STILL put up 62% 3555 yards 28tds 7 ints? And played all the games while having serious injuries like the knee sprain, shoulder injury, concussion and turf toe...
That's just your opinion, man. And, I vehemently disagree with it.

It's right though, his stock would have declined even further and then what would you say then?
Your premise is completely wrong. If you don't see that, how can someone explain it to you?

Your insinuating he has no room to improve.

Thats ****ing stupid.

Then again, I should know better by now.
Do you not see how they are picking his game apart?
"He doesn't drive the ball"
"Lots of underthrown balls"
"Erratic when pressured"
"Lack of arm strength"
"No feel of pressure"
"Not athletic enough"
This is what they are saying and would keep even next year. Statiscally he had a great year this year but everyone is saying he didn't play good. Stop trying to insult someone for having a different opinion than you, now move the fvck on
You literally make no sense.

Go **** yourself you soft shouldered *****
 
That's just your opinion, man. And, I vehemently disagree with it.

It's right though, his stock would have declined even further and then what would you say then?
Your premise is completely wrong. If you don't see that, how can someone explain it to you?

Your insinuating he has no room to improve.

Thats ****ing stupid.

Then again, I should know better by now.
Do you not see how they are picking his game apart?
"He doesn't drive the ball"
"Lots of underthrown balls"
"Erratic when pressured"
"Lack of arm strength"
"No feel of pressure"
"Not athletic enough"
This is what they are saying and would keep even next year. Statiscally he had a great year this year but everyone is saying he didn't play good. Stop trying to insult someone for having a different opinion than you, now move the fvck on
You literally make no sense.

Go **** yourself you soft shouldered ****

Stfu, you talk all that sh*t on this message board but wouldn't do sh*t. Keep putting on this dumba55 act it's working well for you
 
22-15 in the three years prior to Bard.

23-16 during his three years here.


Thank the almighty for Bard leaving the program in much better shape than he found it.
 
It's no negative consequence imo...If he had returned his game would have gotten further picked apart than it is now and it was an even DEEPER draft class in 2018. Take your chances with being a top 4 round draft pick. I mean give me a break statistically he had a great year and is still being picked apart. When was the last time Miami had a qb that played behind an oline like that and STILL put up 62% 3555 yards 28tds 7 ints? And played all the games while having serious injuries like the knee sprain, shoulder injury, concussion and turf toe...
That's just your opinion, man. And, I vehemently disagree with it.

It's right though, his stock would have declined even further and then what would you say then?
Your premise is completely wrong. If you don't see that, how can someone explain it to you?

Your insinuating he has no room to improve.

Thats ****ing stupid.

Then again, I should know better by now.
Do you not see how they are picking his game apart?
"He doesn't drive the ball"
"Lots of underthrown balls"
"Erratic when pressured"
"Lack of arm strength"
"No feel of pressure"
"Not athletic enough"
This is what they are saying and would keep even next year. Statiscally he had a great year this year but everyone is saying he didn't play good. Stop trying to insult someone for having a different opinion than you, now move the fvck on

Do you not realize 4 of those things you listed are directly about him maneuvering the pocket under pressure.

"he doesn't drive the ball" - This wouldn't change too much, but his throw isn't going to get weaker. It actually reasonable that he would get stronger after another yr, which could translate to some more velocity on his throws. Even so, coming back wouldn't hurt this, it could only improve.

"lots of underthrown balls" - This is semi-related to the first point. But he does have good touch on his deep throws. One of his problems is he throws off his back foot, due to the poor habits he got in due to all the pressure he was getting, which leads to underthrown balls because he doesn't have enough arm strength to zip balls in while falling backwards. So even this can be improved by just improving his footwork and how he handles pressure.

"erratic when pressured" - well this is basically his biggest downfall. This is what he needs to improve. His footwork under pressure is terrible, and needs to be improved. But again, give him another yr here and i think he's more likely to improve than not improve at all.

"lack of arm strength" - Sure. But he has a good enough arm to be an NFL qb. He's not Jamarcus Russell, but he's also not Colt McCoy either.

"no feel of pressure" - again, this goes back to his performance under pressure, which i believe is the main thing he needed to work on.

"not athletic enough" - once again this is all about how he handles pressure and how his footwork breaksdown. Well that and he looks robotic when he moves. Saying he's not athletic enough isn't saying he needs to be able to scramble from first downs, its saying he needs to be able to avoid pressure in the pocket.


So in summation, if every aspect of his game stayed the same, except for how well he handles pressure, there is no question in my mind that he'd be at least a 2nd round pick.
 
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Thank the almighty for Bard leaving the program in much better shape than he found it.

Maybe it's me, but I felt a little better after the 2016 Russell Athletic Bowl than the 2013 edition.

Richt and his staff are the main reason for this momentum. Kaaya never claimed to be responsible. He simply said that he was confident in the direction of the program and happy to go off on a good note. I'd say 70% passing, 4 TDs and 0 INTs in our first bowl win in a decade qualifies.

Is he on Mount Rushmore with Dorsey, Steve Walsh and the rest? Of course not. But he's a good player and I'm glad we signed him. Lord knows how bad we would've been without him.
 
Thank the almighty for Bard leaving the program in much better shape than he found it.

Maybe it's me, but I felt a little better after the 2016 Russell Athletic Bowl than the 2013 edition.

Richt and his staff are the main reason for this momentum. Kaaya never claimed to be responsible. He simply said that he was confident in the direction of the program and happy to go off on a good note. I'd say 70% passing, 4 TDs and 0 INTs in our first bowl win in a decade qualifies.

Is he on Mount Rushmore with Dorsey, Steve Walsh and the rest? Of course not. But he's a good player and I'm glad we signed him. Lord knows how bad we would've been without him.

I wanna know where would Kaaya be had Richt been his Head Coach and O-Coordinator all 3 years. W/L never tells the whole story. I saw a kid bring us back against FSU in Trailerhassee stealing all momentum, just to give the responsibility to the D and they gave the game right back away. I saw him come back after getting punched in the mouth against FSU, this year, only to have the refs steal a game from us and maybe his shining moment. I saw a kid turn it on the last 5 games of this season, and absolutely smoked a #16 ranked team in RAB.

Kaaya is not going on my Mt. Rushmore, but honestly, it wouldn't surprise me if he's our most successful QB in the NFL since Testaverde. And if he is, I don't want to hear any of these cats that bashing him trying to claim NFLU or QBU if he finds his game on the next level.
 
That's just your opinion, man. And, I vehemently disagree with it.

It's right though, his stock would have declined even further and then what would you say then?
Your premise is completely wrong. If you don't see that, how can someone explain it to you?

Your insinuating he has no room to improve.

Thats ****ing stupid.

Then again, I should know better by now.
Do you not see how they are picking his game apart?
"He doesn't drive the ball"
"Lots of underthrown balls"
"Erratic when pressured"
"Lack of arm strength"
"No feel of pressure"
"Not athletic enough"
This is what they are saying and would keep even next year. Statiscally he had a great year this year but everyone is saying he didn't play good. Stop trying to insult someone for having a different opinion than you, now move the fvck on

Do you not realize 4 of those things you listed are directly about him maneuvering the pocket under pressure.

"he doesn't drive the ball" - This wouldn't change too much, but his throw isn't going to get weaker. It actually reasonable that he would get stronger after another yr, which could translate to some more velocity on his throws. Even so, coming back wouldn't hurt this, it could only improve.

"lots of underthrown balls" - This is semi-related to the first point. But he does have good touch on his deep throws. One of his problems is he throws off his back foot, due to the poor habits he got in due to all the pressure he was getting, which leads to underthrown balls because he doesn't have enough arm strength to zip balls in while falling backwards. So even this can be improved by just improving his footwork and how he handles pressure.

"erratic when pressured" - well this is basically his biggest downfall. This is what he needs to improve. His footwork under pressure is terrible, and needs to be improved. But again, give him another yr here and i think he's more likely to improve than not improve at all.

"lack of arm strength" - Sure. But he has a good enough arm to be an NFL qb. He's not Jamarcus Russell, but he's also not Colt McCoy either.

"no feel of pressure" - again, this goes back to his performance under pressure, which i believe is the main thing he needed to work on.

"not athletic enough" - once again this is all about how he handles pressure and how his footwork breaksdown. Well that and he looks robotic when he moves. Saying he's not athletic enough isn't saying he needs to be able to scramble from first downs, its saying he needs to be able to avoid pressure in the pocket.


So in summation, if every aspect of his game stayed the same, except for how well he handles pressure, there is no question in my mind that he'd be at least a 2nd round pick.

I'm just saying from viewing all the news from the draft scouts that's what they keep saying. I've been saying for the longest those guys are just running with a narrative to see if it sticks as kaaya clearly doesn't have as weak of an arm as they try to insinuate
 
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It's right though, his stock would have declined even further and then what would you say then?
Your premise is completely wrong. If you don't see that, how can someone explain it to you?

Your insinuating he has no room to improve.

Thats ****ing stupid.

Then again, I should know better by now.
Do you not see how they are picking his game apart?
"He doesn't drive the ball"
"Lots of underthrown balls"
"Erratic when pressured"
"Lack of arm strength"
"No feel of pressure"
"Not athletic enough"
This is what they are saying and would keep even next year. Statiscally he had a great year this year but everyone is saying he didn't play good. Stop trying to insult someone for having a different opinion than you, now move the fvck on

Do you not realize 4 of those things you listed are directly about him maneuvering the pocket under pressure.

"he doesn't drive the ball" - This wouldn't change too much, but his throw isn't going to get weaker. It actually reasonable that he would get stronger after another yr, which could translate to some more velocity on his throws. Even so, coming back wouldn't hurt this, it could only improve.

"lots of underthrown balls" - This is semi-related to the first point. But he does have good touch on his deep throws. One of his problems is he throws off his back foot, due to the poor habits he got in due to all the pressure he was getting, which leads to underthrown balls because he doesn't have enough arm strength to zip balls in while falling backwards. So even this can be improved by just improving his footwork and how he handles pressure.

"erratic when pressured" - well this is basically his biggest downfall. This is what he needs to improve. His footwork under pressure is terrible, and needs to be improved. But again, give him another yr here and i think he's more likely to improve than not improve at all.

"lack of arm strength" - Sure. But he has a good enough arm to be an NFL qb. He's not Jamarcus Russell, but he's also not Colt McCoy either.

"no feel of pressure" - again, this goes back to his performance under pressure, which i believe is the main thing he needed to work on.

"not athletic enough" - once again this is all about how he handles pressure and how his footwork breaksdown. Well that and he looks robotic when he moves. Saying he's not athletic enough isn't saying he needs to be able to scramble from first downs, its saying he needs to be able to avoid pressure in the pocket.


So in summation, if every aspect of his game stayed the same, except for how well he handles pressure, there is no question in my mind that he'd be at least a 2nd round pick.

I'm just saying from viewing all the news from the draft scouts that's what they keep saying. I've been saying for the longest those guys are just running with a narrative to see if it sticks as kaaya clearly doesn't have as weak of an arm as they try to insinuate

uh idk about that. Compare his arm to Mahomes and there is a major difference. Kizer and Webb have the next strongest arms in this draft. I'd say those 3 are top tier arm strength guys.

Then Trubisky is at the top of the 2nd tier of arm strength with Kaaya and Watson following behind.
 
Thank the almighty for Bard leaving the program in much better shape than he found it.

Maybe it's me, but I felt a little better after the 2016 Russell Athletic Bowl than the 2013 edition.

Richt and his staff are the main reason for this momentum. Kaaya never claimed to be responsible. He simply said that he was confident in the direction of the program and happy to go off on a good note. I'd say 70% passing, 4 TDs and 0 INTs in our first bowl win in a decade qualifies.

Is he on Mount Rushmore with Dorsey, Steve Walsh and the rest? Of course not. But he's a good player and I'm glad we signed him. Lord knows how bad we would've been without him.

Anybody that doesn't see the shape we are in today, versus the shape we were in when Kaaya first came in, is so filled with hate it's clouded their perception of reality.

It's just not even a question. Only an idiot wouldn't see the program is in better shape. As a matter fact, it's in much better shape.

Say what you want about his limitations as an athlete, for the rest just refer to Franchise's post. I wish I had posted that myself to be honest.
 
You think it's a guarantee his stock would have declined. It's a possibility, sure. It's also a possibility he would have improved on what's on the film: what scouts and anyone can see are problems in the pocket. Improve that film and he may have not only improved his stock, but also his chances of hanging around the league a little longer than the risk he's currently taking. Will he make it now? Who knows. Will he have made it if he stayed and improved? Who knows. However, you're speaking as if you absolutely know his stock would have declined if he stayed. That is merely an opinion.

Maybe, but you know as I know kaaya is who he is. Why risk playing with your future like that. He will be drafted im at least the first 4 rounds. It's easy to sit back and say it's a dumb decision when you aren't the player because it doesn't serve the Miami fans best interest but at the end of the day sometimes you got to take those chances.
No, I don't know that. Again, you're stating Kaaya "is who he is" and could not improve his stock by putting different film out or perhaps winning important games. You've assumed I think it's a mistake because it'd serve my (fan) interests and not Kaaya's. These are assumptions being passed as facts.
That's certainly sounds like what you are saying to me.
What? You're saying I'm stating assumptions? I am. I'm giving my opinion. I'm not passing it off as an absolute, which is different than what you are doing.

prayers sent re: falling into this trap.
 
Kaayak's decision is based on what he thinks is best for him while factoring in UM's 2017 season at a whopping 0.0% of his decision

What's this based on? Your spidey sense? He says that he would've stayed if the team had a bad year. I've heard that consistently from people on and off the record. I'll take him at his word.

Could be wrong, but if my memory serves me right, his QB mentor, Carpenter, did an interview in which he said that they thought this was the right time to declare because next year's qb class would be stronger and deeper. When I have time, I'll go back and find it.

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No spidey sense, here's the exact quote: "It’s also part of the reason he came out. You’ve got teams like the Chargers, the Saints, the Steelers, the Chiefs, the Texans, that maybe they’re not in need of a starter day one, but two, three years down the line they’re definitely in need of the guy. Obviously we feel like next year’s draft class is going to be strong too, with Josh Rosen and Sam Darnold and those guys coming out. We felt strategically this was good to start the NFL development process."

Interview: Brad Kaaya on Pro Day, meeting Bill Belichick, the 2017 Hurricanes | Canes Watch
 
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