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Podcast with Brad Kaaya

Podcast with Brad Kaaya

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The Franchise said:
God speed to Kaaya. He's a Cane who was an honorable guy the entire time he was here. He never bytched and moaned or went in the tank even when there was unprecedented toxicity around the program and he was getting defenistrated by a two man pass rush.

The hit he took against FSU definitely concussed him. Any blow hard enough to knock a tooth out is hard enough to cause a serious concussion. But he got up, picked up his tooth and came back out to answer the bell. Came back and dropped a dime to Coley that should have put us in position to win the game and change his personal legacy. Despite that, he didn't **** on Badgley.

I'll choose to remember him as a gamer with very limited athletic ability who was a credit to my alma mater. He's an Iron Arrow guy, so he got it done at an elite level off the field. I don't think he was physically capable of ever playing QB in today's era at an elite level. But he gave us his all.
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Agreed. People can call him a statue and bad mouth his athletic ability but anybody that calls him soft or a quitter is retarded.
 
Bccrhp said:
MIATL said:
Given his current draft projections, I'm guessing he really wouldn't have had an option to go early into the draft if we had actually finished the season on a losing streak.

I'd argue the fact that the team won is what generated buzz and interest for Brad and Njoku. Had this team not ended as hot as it did, Kaaya and Njoku would likely be viewed the same as Yearby.

That noted ... The team finished well, in part, because of how well Brad and Njoku played down the stretch. And while I'd argue both have major holes in their games, I understand why they both are making the jump.

If Tyrod Taylor can get a starting situation, Kaaya can find and keep a job. Might not be a star, but he'll earn a decent living for more than a few years, IMO.

kryptonite said:
nvlahos said:
Haven't listened to the podcast yet but that quote seems backwards..

He'd rather play for a program that's trending towards losing than winning?
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Don't be a ****. Dude said that he was comfortable leaving because Miami was in good hands and he would have stayed if they'd finished badly.
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So let me get this straight: David Njoku would have been a Day 3 pick/UDFA if we didn't win our last five games? :monkey-serious:
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No but it's no secret that the more a team wins have a positive effect on some players draft status
 
DMoney said:
JHallCanes said:
If Pete and D$ (And ESPN) hadn't worked the fanbase into a fever pitch about how great he would be, he wouldn't receive the venom he does
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The coaches were part of that hype train, too. Kaaya was All-World in practice without contact. My mistake was putting too much stock in that.

But at the end of the day, the guy had no offers when he committed to us and ended up as our all-time leading passer. He was good. In my opinion, he was our best since Dorsey. Brock Berlin gets better every year, but Kaaya was a truly prolific passer that made his receivers better.
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Yeah look at walford, dorsett, Scott, coley, njoku careers he made those guys millions ESPECIALLY walford and Dorsett. Dorsett and walford were talented but he took their game to another level and they looked much better with him as their qb featuring them. Dorsett has been okay in the league so far had over 550 yards and a couple of touchdowns in 2016 but I'm looking forward to him making that jump. Walford has been okay too
 
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LuCane said:
Still think it was a mistake to leave early.
There was work to do as a team and for him individually.
Wish him luck because it's his call and he mainly will suffer the consequences or reap the rewards.
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It's no negative consequence imo...If he had returned his game would have gotten further picked apart than it is now and it was an even DEEPER draft class in 2018. Take your chances with being a top 4 round draft pick. I mean give me a break statistically he had a great year and is still being picked apart. When was the last time Miami had a qb that played behind an oline like that and STILL put up 62% 3555 yards 28tds 7 ints? And played all the games while having serious injuries like the knee sprain, shoulder injury, concussion and turf toe...
 
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brock said:
DMoney said:
JHallCanes said:
If Pete and D$ (And ESPN) hadn't worked the fanbase into a fever pitch about how great he would be, he wouldn't receive the venom he does
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The coaches were part of that hype train, too. Kaaya was All-World in practice without contact. My mistake was putting too much stock in that.

But at the end of the day, the guy had no offers when he committed to us and ended up as our all-time leading passer. He was good. In my opinion, he was our best since Dorsey. Brock Berlin gets better every year, but Kaaya was a truly prolific passer that made his receivers better.
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Yeah look at walford, dorsett, Scott, coley, njoku careers he made those guys millions ESPECIALLY walford and Dorsett. Dorsett and walford were talented but he took their game to another level and they looked much better with him as their qb featuring them. Dorsett has been okay in the league so far had over 550 yards and a couple of touchdowns in 2016 but I'm looking forward to him making that jump. Walford has been okay too
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ehh..maybe not Dorsett. He had already made a name for himself catching Stephen Morris bombs but Walford was jag before Kaaya. I don't think Morris ever completed a pass to a TE.
 
brock said:
LuCane said:
Still think it was a mistake to leave early.
There was work to do as a team and for him individually.
Wish him luck because it's his call and he mainly will suffer the consequences or reap the rewards.
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It's no negative consequence imo...If he had returned his game would have gotten further picked apart than it is now and it was an even DEEPER draft class in 2018. Take your chances with being a top 4 round draft pick. I mean give me a break statistically he had a great year and is still being picked apart. When was the last time Miami had a qb that played behind an oline like that and STILL put up 62% 3555 yards 28tds 7 ints? And played all the games while having serious injuries like the knee sprain, shoulder injury, concussion and turf toe...
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Eh. All he would have to do to increase his draft stock next year was perform better under pressure.
And every yr we say "next yr's qb class is deeper" , but the truth is this qb class is pretty good, its just not top heavy like the past few have been. Instead of having 2 consensus top picks, theres like 5 guys that are 20range talents. I wouldn't be shocked if there were 4 1st round QBs this yr.
 
Bccrhp said:
MIATL said:
Given his current draft projections, I'm guessing he really wouldn't have had an option to go early into the draft if we had actually finished the season on a losing streak.

I'd argue the fact that the team won is what generated buzz and interest for Brad and Njoku. Had this team not ended as hot as it did, Kaaya and Njoku would likely be viewed the same as Yearby.

That noted ... The team finished well, in part, because of how well Brad and Njoku played down the stretch. And while I'd argue both have major holes in their games, I understand why they both are making the jump.

If Tyrod Taylor can get a starting situation, Kaaya can find and keep a job. Might not be a star, but he'll earn a decent living for more than a few years, IMO.

kryptonite said:
nvlahos said:
Haven't listened to the podcast yet but that quote seems backwards..

He'd rather play for a program that's trending towards losing than winning?
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Don't be a ****. Dude said that he was comfortable leaving because Miami was in good hands and he would have stayed if they'd finished badly.
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So let me get this straight: David Njoku would have been a Day 3 pick/UDFA if we didn't win our last five games? :monkey-serious:
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Not sure why you are looking for a debate on this. But my point is more about how they played to help us win the last 5 games, not just that we won the last 5 games.

Check the game log for Njoku:

David Njoku 2016 Game Log | College Football at Sports-Reference.com

During the 5-game winning streak to end the season, he had more than half (22 of 43) of of his catches and almost all (6 of 8) of his TD catches.

Had he kept his averages from the first 7 games for the entire year, he'd have finished the season with 36 catches, 643 yards, and 4 TDs. And I suspect he would not have declared with those stats. Or, if he did ... The board would be talking about him similarly to the way we discuss Yearby.

So if you can understand that, then you have it straight! :thumbsup_kid:
 
MIATL said:
Bccrhp said:
MIATL said:
Given his current draft projections, I'm guessing he really wouldn't have had an option to go early into the draft if we had actually finished the season on a losing streak.

I'd argue the fact that the team won is what generated buzz and interest for Brad and Njoku. Had this team not ended as hot as it did, Kaaya and Njoku would likely be viewed the same as Yearby.

That noted ... The team finished well, in part, because of how well Brad and Njoku played down the stretch. And while I'd argue both have major holes in their games, I understand why they both are making the jump.

If Tyrod Taylor can get a starting situation, Kaaya can find and keep a job. Might not be a star, but he'll earn a decent living for more than a few years, IMO.

kryptonite said:
nvlahos said:
Haven't listened to the podcast yet but that quote seems backwards..

He'd rather play for a program that's trending towards losing than winning?
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Don't be a ****. Dude said that he was comfortable leaving because Miami was in good hands and he would have stayed if they'd finished badly.
Click to expand...
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So let me get this straight: David Njoku would have been a Day 3 pick/UDFA if we didn't win our last five games? :monkey-serious:
Click to expand...

Had he kept his averages from the first 7 games for the entire year, he'd have finished the season with 36 catches, 643 yards, and 4 TDs. And I suspect he would not have declared with those stats. Or, if he did ... The board would be talking about him similarly to the way we discuss Yearby.
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If Njoku finished with those stats, he'd still have been a top-2 round pick because of his jaw-dropping athleticism. Yearby, who actually had good YPC production but is perceived to lack NFL-caliber "tools," is basically the exact opposite. So no, the board wouldn't be comparing the two.
 
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Bccrhp said:
MIATL said:
Bccrhp said:
MIATL said:
Given his current draft projections, I'm guessing he really wouldn't have had an option to go early into the draft if we had actually finished the season on a losing streak.

I'd argue the fact that the team won is what generated buzz and interest for Brad and Njoku. Had this team not ended as hot as it did, Kaaya and Njoku would likely be viewed the same as Yearby.

That noted ... The team finished well, in part, because of how well Brad and Njoku played down the stretch. And while I'd argue both have major holes in their games, I understand why they both are making the jump.

If Tyrod Taylor can get a starting situation, Kaaya can find and keep a job. Might not be a star, but he'll earn a decent living for more than a few years, IMO.

kryptonite said:
Don't be a ****. Dude said that he was comfortable leaving because Miami was in good hands and he would have stayed if they'd finished badly.
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So let me get this straight: David Njoku would have been a Day 3 pick/UDFA if we didn't win our last five games? :monkey-serious:
Click to expand...

Had he kept his averages from the first 7 games for the entire year, he'd have finished the season with 36 catches, 643 yards, and 4 TDs. And I suspect he would not have declared with those stats. Or, if he did ... The board would be talking about him similarly to the way we discuss Yearby.
Click to expand...

If Njoku finished with those stats, he'd still have been a top-2 round pick because of his jaw-dropping athleticism. Yearby, who actually had good YPC production but is perceived to lack NFL-caliber "tools," is basically the exact opposite. So no, the board wouldn't be comparing the two.
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His athleticism didn't change from the beginning of the year. So, you're suggesting he was leaving this year, no matter what?

Most on this board assumed he would leave early next season, but if you are suggesting you knew he was leaving, no matter his stats for this year, then props to you.
 
The Franchise said:
God speed to Kaaya. He's a Cane who was an honorable guy the entire time he was here. He never bytched and moaned or went in the tank even when there was unprecedented toxicity around the program and he was getting defenistrated by a two man pass rush.

The hit he took against FSU definitely concussed him. Any blow hard enough to knock a tooth out is hard enough to cause a serious concussion. But he got up, picked up his tooth and came back out to answer the bell. Came back and dropped a dime to Coley that should have put us in position to win the game and change his personal legacy. Despite that, he didn't **** on Badgley.

I'll choose to remember him as a gamer with very limited athletic ability who was a credit to my alma mater. He's an Iron Arrow guy, so he got it done at an elite level off the field. I don't think he was physically capable of ever playing QB in today's era at an elite level. But he gave us his all.
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This. This. And only This.

The vitriol towards him is buttsore facquitry at its finest.

He had F$U on the ropes his first year had Berrios held onto the ball, you never heard him say a negative thing about it.

He got us the lead back on his second try, but his defense couldn't stop a 4th and a mile to end the game. He never said a thing.

You articulated this year perfectly. Dude got his tooth knocked out on the first series and dropped a dime on his last.
 
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brock said:
LuCane said:
Still think it was a mistake to leave early.
There was work to do as a team and for him individually.
Wish him luck because it's his call and he mainly will suffer the consequences or reap the rewards.
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It's no negative consequence imo...If he had returned his game would have gotten further picked apart than it is now and it was an even DEEPER draft class in 2018. Take your chances with being a top 4 round draft pick. I mean give me a break statistically he had a great year and is still being picked apart. When was the last time Miami had a qb that played behind an oline like that and STILL put up 62% 3555 yards 28tds 7 ints? And played all the games while having serious injuries like the knee sprain, shoulder injury, concussion and turf toe...
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That's just your opinion, man. And, I vehemently disagree with it.
 
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OldhamA said:
He's comfortable to leave Miami because they're in good hands?
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I think he was being genuine. He said his ultimate dream was to play in the NFL and that "tomorrow isn't promised." This is a guy who got concussed on a two-man rush by Clemson and concussed on a cheap shot by Matthew Thomas. He knows his dream can disappear with one hit.

My take is that he wanted to go to the NFL, but felt obligated to make sure he left Miami in a better place than he found it. I would say he did that.
 
LuCane said:
brock said:
LuCane said:
Still think it was a mistake to leave early.
There was work to do as a team and for him individually.
Wish him luck because it's his call and he mainly will suffer the consequences or reap the rewards.
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It's no negative consequence imo...If he had returned his game would have gotten further picked apart than it is now and it was an even DEEPER draft class in 2018. Take your chances with being a top 4 round draft pick. I mean give me a break statistically he had a great year and is still being picked apart. When was the last time Miami had a qb that played behind an oline like that and STILL put up 62% 3555 yards 28tds 7 ints? And played all the games while having serious injuries like the knee sprain, shoulder injury, concussion and turf toe...
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That's just your opinion, man. And, I vehemently disagree with it.
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It's right though, his stock would have declined even further and then what would you say then?
 
DMoney said:
OldhamA said:
He's comfortable to leave Miami because they're in good hands?
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I think he was being genuine. He said his ultimate dream was to play in the NFL and that "tomorrow isn't promised." This is a guy who got concussed on a two-man rush by Clemson and concussed on a cheap shot by Matthew Thomas. He knows his dream can disappear with one hit.

My take is that he wanted to go to the NFL, but felt obligated to make sure he left Miami in a better place than he found it. I would say he did that.
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This right here. I get people bashing his record and his lack of mobility, but his motives? He's a Cane through and through, but he felt it was time for him to move on. Despite that he's still thinking about the team and wants them to do well. I don't see what's to complain about.
 
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MIATL said:
Bccrhp said:
MIATL said:
Bccrhp said:
MIATL said:
Given his current draft projections, I'm guessing he really wouldn't have had an option to go early into the draft if we had actually finished the season on a losing streak.

I'd argue the fact that the team won is what generated buzz and interest for Brad and Njoku. Had this team not ended as hot as it did, Kaaya and Njoku would likely be viewed the same as Yearby.

That noted ... The team finished well, in part, because of how well Brad and Njoku played down the stretch. And while I'd argue both have major holes in their games, I understand why they both are making the jump.

If Tyrod Taylor can get a starting situation, Kaaya can find and keep a job. Might not be a star, but he'll earn a decent living for more than a few years, IMO.
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So let me get this straight: David Njoku would have been a Day 3 pick/UDFA if we didn't win our last five games? :monkey-serious:
Click to expand...

Had he kept his averages from the first 7 games for the entire year, he'd have finished the season with 36 catches, 643 yards, and 4 TDs. And I suspect he would not have declared with those stats. Or, if he did ... The board would be talking about him similarly to the way we discuss Yearby.
Click to expand...

If Njoku finished with those stats, he'd still have been a top-2 round pick because of his jaw-dropping athleticism. Yearby, who actually had good YPC production but is perceived to lack NFL-caliber "tools," is basically the exact opposite. So no, the board wouldn't be comparing the two.
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His athleticism didn't change from the beginning of the year. So, you're suggesting he was leaving this year, no matter what?

Most on this board assumed he would leave early next season, but if you are suggesting you knew he was leaving, no matter his stats for this year, then props to you.
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Lots of people were talking about Njoku as a likely three-year guy prior to this past season, but I obviously don't disagree with you that his strong production at the end of the year helped his (and our) cause. IMO, going into this past season, Njoku's athleticism/age/upside gave him a floor above where Yearby will likely be drafted. An ACL or other bad injury would have lowered that floor to Yearby territory, but even decent stats (i.e., your extrapolated projection) would have made him a 2nd/3rd rounder. As we'll probably see, the combination of strong stats (i.e., his final line) and athleticism/upside will have made him a 1st rounder.

Just my two cents.
 
westcoastcanes said:
meh, I'd listen if he had beat fsu.

Quite possibly nobody on the roster I am less interested in their thoughts on the canes than bard.

Good get for Pete I guess though.
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some posters on here are insufferable
 
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