Canedog said:

I stand corrected. Thank you. Guys like Jimmy Murphy and such having much better college careers confused me momentarily. I’m straight now.

Friend, please don’t mention WW in the same breath as Derrick Thomas.

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In HS...it was no contest...and I'm fully aware how good Derrick was....but WW was on another level....And for those who didn't see Wilbur Marshall play in HS...you can't imagine the force he was...completely unstoppable...

Canedog said:

We’ve done this dance before. I grew up with Johnny Corker and we debated them too. Willie could freelance in high school but that was never going to cut it in college. He looked like **** at LB at Miami and that’s not all on the coaches because the LB next to him looked just fine. Willie had great physical gifts but had nothing upstairs. Takes some of both as you move up. We will never agree on WW but I respect your food reviews.

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False.

Willie was my homie in high school so may be biased a bit. But Randy Sahannon's coaching methods/favortism did him no justice.

In fact he did the same with my other day 1 friend who wasnt feeling it either when he was a young player....but he eventually got through and did his thing and made it to the nfl and balled out as a lb as well. He wanted to even change positions to allow WW to be on the field at the same time.

Shannon had favorites and played seniority roll. I think some of yall for got that ninja played Romeo Davis, Glen Cook ( another dude i grew up with) over guys.

*The MYTH was the roaming and not HAVING it upstairs schtick...he needed to just get on the **** field...**** i see the same thing again from my lil homie Busta (Avery Huff) and the talk about "playbook" and not having upstairs...for a got**** linebacker...sh*t irks me

Canedog said:

Ok, I remember watching WW play at Miami. When he got on the field even my brother who was a big WW fan said WTF. It was bad. Anyway, we disagree on this one.

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It was bad?.

What games was this?.
He flashed most of the time he really played soooo...

Your telling me about your brother who was a ww fan..and im telling you he was my dawg?.

SWFLHurricane said:

Not even close to WW...Closest I saw defensively were....(in no particular order)
Derrick Thomas
Webster
Wilbur Marshall

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I wasn’t referring to talent level the post I commented was talking about busts. Matthew Thomas had A LOT of hype and didn’t do **** at Free Shoes University.

Imagine if JJ coached WW…. Just do it. Yup. Shannon really phucked up here.

SWFLHurricane said:

He wasn't that Bad....Spent a lot of time with WW....Shannon had plenty to do with WW failing at UM....Kid made plays everytime he saw the field....Got in Shannon's doghouse, and it was all but done...WW was no more of a headcase than Webster and others who played at UM....

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It isn't often we agree, but WW's had the talent to be playing on Sunday's. He got in his own way when he left here though.

Canedog said:

Ok, I remember watching WW play at Miami. When he got on the field even my brother who was a big WW fan said WTF. It was bad. Anyway, we disagree on this one.

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The stats say otherwise on his play on the field.

Technically he may have been out of position, but the amount of plays he was in on relative to the amount of snaps he saw was literally astronomical.

I get it, you want him to be here and do this, but he literally was sniffing the play out better than our DC and head coach was.

The guys that played ahead of him couldn't find the ball to save their lives.

305to954 said:

You saw ST live or nah?..best players I’ve seen live down here in my short lifetime was Tyrone moss, Duke, levante David, major wright and lamarcus Joyner..I’d add Shoelace cause He’s from
Around the way..no particular order.

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Frank Gore wasn’t too shabby either

305to954 said:

You saw ST live or nah?..best players I’ve seen live down here in my short lifetime was Tyrone moss, Duke, levante David, major wright and lamarcus Joyner..I’d add Shoelace cause He’s from
Around the way..no particular order.

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I saw Moss, Devin H, Anquan Boldin, Jarrett Brown, Jerome McDougle, Vince Wilfork, Emmanuel Cook, Jason Geathers, Vinny Sutherland, Antonio Bryant, Brad Banks, Santonio Holmes, and Frank Gore play in high school.

I genuinely wish I saw Travis Henry. What he did at Frostproof is the kind of stuff you can't make up.

In 1996, playing for Frostproof High, Travis Henry rushed for 4087 yards and 34 TD's , averaging 11.3 yards per carry. In the 3A state title game in Daytona Beach, Henry rushed for a state title game record 328 yards. That effort enabled him to break a 43 year-old national record for the most rushing yards in a season. Unfortunately, it was not enough, and Frostproof lost the title game to two-time defending state champion Union County.


That season, he shattered the state single-season rushing record of 2,969 yards set by University Christian's Willie McClendon in 1987. He rushed for 14 straight 200-yard games and finished with 19 in all. Henry finished his hs career with 7,221 rushing yards and 79 touchdowns. "

JeddTheFisch said:

In 1996, playing for Frostproof High, Travis Henry rushed for 4087 yards and 34 TD's , averaging 11.3 yards per carry. In the 3A state title game in Daytona Beach, Henry rushed for a state title game record 328 yards. That effort enabled him to break a 43 year-old national record for the most rushing yards in a season. Unfortunately, it was not enough, and Frostproof lost the title game to two-time defending state champion Union County.


That season, he shattered the state single-season rushing record of 2,969 yards set by University Christian's Willie McClendon in 1987. He rushed for 14 straight 200-yard games and finished with 19 in all. Henry finished his hs career with 7,221 rushing yards and 79 touchdowns. "

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That’s nuts

JeddTheFisch said:

In 1996, playing for Frostproof High, Travis Henry rushed for 4087 yards and 34 TD's , averaging 11.3 yards per carry. In the 3A state title game in Daytona Beach, Henry rushed for a state title game record 328 yards. That effort enabled him to break a 43 year-old national record for the most rushing yards in a season. Unfortunately, it was not enough, and Frostproof lost the title game to two-time defending state champion Union County.


That season, he shattered the state single-season rushing record of 2,969 yards set by University Christian's Willie McClendon in 1987. He rushed for 14 straight 200-yard games and finished with 19 in all. Henry finished his hs career with 7,221 rushing yards and 79 touchdowns. "

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Smh video game number

305to954 said:

Smh video game number

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I could be that I've simply become a 34-year old fuddy duddy boomer, but I believe there was an epic quality to Florida high school football in the 90s that isn't really matched today.

There are simply so many distractions now that it has removed the "big event" aspect of many matchups. Everyone can watch highlights on YouTube and there are countless recruiting ratings and promotion sites. Half these kids' following is just clout-chasing social media types who don't know the difference between a QB and CB.

Back then, hype built through newspaper and word of mouth. You had to go SEE it if you wanted to experience it. I miss it.

There was plenty of transferring and recruiting back then, too, but nothing compared to what it is now. The turnover is immense among players, to the degree that the roster, booster club, parental involvement, fanbase, and even coaching staffs don't look anything like each other year over year. It's just really difficult to sustain consistency like this, to build a project.

CashMoneyCane said:

Dedicating time to talking about a recruit from 20 years ago who never panned out to be anything.

And people say Miami fans are stuck in the past.

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And it was such a positive result, it’s clear why we want this revisited. I hear there is an upcoming special on Pell Grants, that will be riveting….

ben said:

Ask manny where the best place to get a sandwich in south Florida is.

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*Sanbish*

Canes Legacy said:

I'll add the Youtube link here later but if anyone has any questions specifically about Willie's recruitment, we'll do our best to ask Manny who covered it during his time at the Miami Herald.

Here’s the link, show starts at 9 pm.

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Didnt Willie Will throw a newspaper case through a soda machine on a recruiting visit??

He had a maniacal process right??

SWFLHurricane said:

Best Defensive HS FB Player I saw in 40yrs of watching Fl HS FB....It wasn't even fair...

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Facts

Reminds me of comments Parcells made about Lawrence Taylor. The key was to find a way for the talent to flourish within the structure of the defense. No, I am not claiming WW was the next LT, but Shannon was clearly not the coach to find that key. Whether or not WW could thrive in any structure is moot, we’ll never know. Freak alent, unfortunate story.

WW’s off-the-field legal troubles were all on WW.

Don’t even try to blame anyone else.

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His Rap sheet was misdemeanor stuff...his SATs in HS were off the chart..every teacher he had, including the Principal stood up for him in court...I spent lots of time with WW. @Poopscoop spent more time with him than me.
Kid was always amazingly nice...Shannon didn't play WW to his strengths...Kid hit Lance Leggett so hard on a slant on Greentree...that it shattered his facemask...and broke his face open...Leggett wasn't the same from that point on....At Carol City he roamed...Hence, the Predator moniker....he was no more of a headcase than Webster...if even that....Nate was wayyyy crazier....Atleast he's doing well now...Baddest MFer I've ever seen play HS FB...

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Lance actually stuttered from that point out. That boy was traumatized after that. Wouldnt run nothing but go routes and posts.

JeddTheFisch said:

I could be that I've simply become a 34-year old fuddy duddy boomer, but I believe there was an epic quality to Florida high school football in the 90s that isn't really matched today.

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I agree, especially defensively. Believe it or not, at one time, Dade County went over 20 years without seeing a 1K yard rusher, nowadays 1K yards is chump change.