You all see this during the game?

[JHallCanes]

Let’s not get all “Barry sanders hand the ball the the ref and go to the sidelines” here now. Mario isn’t handcuffing these kids. After Friersons Pick 6 he absolutely celebrated in the end zone by dancing and so did his teammates and we didn’t get a flag and Mario didn’t go ape$hit. So let’s not act like Mario is trying to turn us into 1944 Norte Dame either. The issue was the penalty and to add insult to injury they stood on the seats flexing while the ref was handing us a 15 yard penalty to boot. That’s what set him off. Mario is going to allow us to be us. This is still Miami. And Mario knows that.

We also were playing like **** when the Kam INT happened

I wasn’t standing there with the team but the way it appeared was he’s like hey, we are beating Bethune ******* Cookman 7-3 and the defense was giving up way too much

And now you’re gonna celebrate like that AND get a penalty?

Not on my watch

 

[Billy D Williams]

I saw it and loved it! The BS stops here and now. I also noticed they were listening and thinking I don't want that to happen to me.

 

[Jassid82]

We also were playing like **** when the Kam INT happened

I can jive with this. Your right. We absolutely were. I was just responding to the posters on here who are giving the "act like you been there and just hand the ball to the ref and get ready for the next play" nonsense. Even NFL guys celebrate. Lets not neuter our kids because we have PTSD from the Manny "over-celebration" days. There is a middle ground here.

 

[JHallCanes]

I can jive with this. Your right. We absolutely were. I was just responding to the posters on here who are giving the "act like you been there and just hand the ball to the ref and get ready for the next play" nonsense. Even NFL guys celebrate. Lets not neuter our kids because we have PTSD from the Manny "over-celebration" days. There is a middle ground here.

Oh for sure I think you were spot on. Just adding that I know Mario wanted to dominate them more than even is fans do

And we weren’t doing it (in my Ed voice)

I don’t in any way shape or form think Mario is some kind of no fun drill sergeant

 

[Gransapo]

This was also shortly after the offsetting personal foul penalties on Flagg and a Bethune player - it's exactly what the team needed - a swift kick in the ***.

 

[L A M P]

It's a penalty to spike the ball. We all know it. The players should know it. Can't believe some of you all are saying it's a BS penalty.

I thought the commentators were spot on in their coverage. The problem people have is with the rule itself.

The kid reacted. That's it. No showboating. Zero disrespect to the opposing team/player. Just a half a second of reaction. It's a weak rule.. .. but a rule it is. Hence Mario's reaction. Can't have it. Won't tolerate it.

 

[QSTOKES]

I don’t mind a kid celebrating a big play. As soon as I saw the flag, the first thing I said was “god forbid kids have fun playing a game”. That said, the players need to understand the situation. Was the spike some kind of egregious taunt? Of course not but because it’s a judgment call for the refs, they’re going to call it in Miami more often than not. A 15 yard penalty against a good team in a close game could cost them. Gotta be smarter than that.

It probably costed us against UF when blades flipped off Franks after that int by Finley

 

[BeCanes]

The reason is because the celebration rules are not consistant. Thats why I dont like the call. In the FSU vs LSU game...Ontaria Wilson from FSU got the TD and ABSOLUTELY stood over the LSU defender and stared at him as he was stepping over him and no penalty was called for taunting. That is WAY more egregious then spiking a **** ball on YOUR side of field. (If he spiked it on Bethunes sidelines, then i would agree with the call).

These referees and the competition committee need to get consistancy with this stuff because its all over the place and the kids are just as confused. So you can dance in the end zone but you cant spike the ball on your side of the field? LOL. And that makes sense to the competition committee? I guess. (shrugs)

To me that's still 2 different things. But consistency is needed. I do think they would have called a penalty on any team that spikes the ball though.

 

[BeCanes]

I thought the commentators were spot on in their coverage. The problem people have is with the rule itself.

The kid reacted. That's it. No showboating. Zero disrespect to the opposing team/player. Just a half a second of reaction. It's a weak rule.. .. but a rule it is. Hence Mario's reaction. Can't have it. Won't tolerate it.

And I'm glad Mario had the reaction. I was at the game so didn't get to hear the commentators. I'm actually really surprised Kam came back out in the next defensive series. I thought Mario would have a sat him down for a minute. Probably too harsh for that I guess but sending a message.

 

[LuCane]

I actually thought it was a bit over the top.

Think it needed to be and might have even been simmering as an opportunity in Mario’s mind. For at least a few years, these kids sincerely expect to [over]celebrate everything. ****, I’d become nauseous with how much the past coaches celebrated some plays. Reversing that mindset is gonna take a **** of a lot more than some speeches prior to games and an overreaction during the game. Don’t even think this even had much to do with Kam directly. Kam just got the penalty and presented the opportunity for a teaching moment. I expect a bunch more.

 

[L A M P]

I was at the game so didn't get to hear the commentators. I'm actually really surprised Kam came back out in the next defensive series. I thought Mario would have a sat him down for a minute. Probably too harsh for that I guess but sending a message.

Mario is old school. Every player on that sideline got the message. They probably got it again in team meetings, with gassers after practice.. and if it happens again, through PT. The way it should be.

 

[JamesQuall]

The reason is because the celebration rules are not consistant. Thats why I dont like the call. In the FSU vs LSU game...Ontaria Wilson from FSU got the TD and ABSOLUTELY stood over the LSU defender and stared at him as he was stepping over him and no penalty was called for taunting. That is WAY more egregious then spiking a **** ball on YOUR side of field. (If he spiked it on Bethunes sidelines, then i would agree with the call).

These referees and the competition committee need to get consistancy with this stuff because its all over the place and the kids are just as confused. So you can dance in the end zone but you cant spike the ball on your side of the field? LOL. And that makes sense to the competition committee? I guess. (shrugs)

I agree with you but unlike taunting which is a very vague and discretionary rule, spiking the ball is not. I can't remember the last game I saw that taunting was actually called. Spiking the ball is not vague at all. Is it a dumb rule? Absolutely, one of the dumbest in my opinion but it's a rule that the players should know and be able to easily avoid.

 

[ItsAUThing.com]

Unsportsmanlike penalties definitely irk Mario the most (he'd go crazy at Oregon over them), but...

This was a bull**** call. Kam did nothing wrong.

I mean he did something wrong. Ref could've looked the other way and let it slide, but it was still a look-at-me celebration in the moment and it cost Miami yards—which doesn't matter against Bethune-Cookman, but can be the difference in a potential game-winning drive at Texas A&M.

What a novel concept; a take-no-sh*t alpha male on the sideline. Shades of Butch Davis with this performance; Mario the opposite of Manny. This is a man that wants to be feared and respected, not liked and accepted by the former man-boy at the helm for three years.

Safe bet Kitchens won't spike the ball again after his next interception. Program has to lose that old muscle memory that came from getting a participation trophy chains and rings for individual celebrations, during games the Canes were losing.

 

[Canezum5]

This was also shortly after the offsetting personal foul penalties on Flagg and a Bethune player - it's exactly what the team needed - a swift kick in the ***.

Yeah cuz he pointing at Flagg AND Kinchens

 

[CanefaninBuckeyeland]

The first quarter of the first game, Mario has to set a cultural foundation. He's been trying to do that with the media, "Is Miami back? Yeah, back to work." Now he's doing it with the team. Gone are the Texas-style games where we can rack up 150+ penalty yards and still blow someone out.

 

[SWFLHurricane]

Last time I saw a UM Coach that "emotionally involved," was when Sebastian ran into the end zone and we got a 10 or 15 yard penalty.

Butch Davis **** near vapor locked - had murder in one eye, and siht in the other! I wouldn't have bet a cup of coffee that Sebastion would leave the field under his own locomotion skills . . .

Butch Emotionally involved??....Lol...you should have seen him at practices circa 95-2000...

 

[UMFarArcher]

I actually thought it was a bit over the top.

I recall a narrative of how a Eastern Newspaper man made his way out West in the 1800's, and he was stunned to learn that a man was about to be publicly hanged for horse theft. (In dry, desolate country, stealing a man's horse could leave him afoot - and lead to his death)

He was aghast: "You're hanging this man for stealing a HORSE?"

"Nope. We're hanging this man so that horses are not stolen."

Now do you get it?

 

[JgDaCane]

Yep. It’s what we’ve needed for 20 years.

 

[supersaiyanshel]

I vividly remember this one last season:

 

[NCCanefan]

He spiked/slammed the ball. That’s a penalty. Stop excusing it.

Spiking the ball is not illegal unless the ref interpretated it as taunting and not a celebration. In this case, the ref inserted himself into the game for no reason. If you look at the replay, Kam didn't know there was a BC guy anywhere near him. Horrible call.