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X had 17 targets?!!

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jed2410 said:
Yeah the comment isn't about X at all. More the guy forcing him the ball
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Name all the “ forces “ to X that turned into ints? A high majority of them are wide open to X, because he stays open most plays. Ironically the bad Int Tvd threw he had X wide open at the top of the screen. I sure wish he’d “ forced ” that one to X instead.
 
KingB02 said:
Thing is no one is really struggling with drops. And other guys can get you RAC. No way you look for X 17 times unless he is being left ALL alone!!! EVER! He had 10 more targets than anyone else! If Young gets 17 targets he easily has 200 yards and 2 TDs and same for George and Smith, and Horton. TVD ain’t it bruh
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I agree. I can’t, in no way, believe that all of his reads takes him to 7. No way.
 
Imo the biggest issue is the snaps X is getting. He’s playing to many especially when he’s being used so much. Thankfully he’s off PR now. We have enough depth to give him a blow. I’d like to see BS , Horton and Ray Ray more. Just as a change up.
 
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Cribby said:
Name all the “ forces “ to X that turned into ints? A high majority of them are wide open to X, because he stays open most plays. Ironically the bad Int Tvd threw he had X wide open at the top of the screen. I sure wish he’d “ forced ” that one to X instead.
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I didn't say anything about interceptions...the point folks are making is that TVD isn't seeing the field well enough and it's killing drives when he either locks in on one player (often times X) or doesn't see the danger right in front of him and forces the ball into a bad spot

I repeat "The comment isn't about X at all"
 
jed2410 said:
I didn't say anything about interceptions...the point folks are making is that TVD isn't seeing the field well enough and it's killing drives when he either locks in on one player (often times X) or doesn't see the danger right in front of him and forces the ball into a bad spot

I repeat "The comment isn't about X at all"
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People are using “ forced “ and don’t even know what it means. Fact is if 4 or 3 had the same stats and targets the board would be silent. But X is Tvd’s best friend and Tvd is enemy number one with the toxic crew so X is collateral damage. It has to all come back to Tvd.

Weirdos obsess on one thing when there’s so much that’s been wrong in 6 of the last 8 quarters.
 
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jed2410 said:
I didn't say anything about interceptions...the point folks are making is that TVD isn't seeing the field well enough and it's killing drives when he either locks in on one player (often times X) or doesn't see the danger right in front of him and forces the ball into a bad spot

I repeat "The comment isn't about X at all"
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What do you have against X?
 
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JHallCanes said:
wonder if the same people complaining are the same ones that said TVD was a Heisman contender after he spent his first season forcing every pass to Rambo
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Bingo. As I said it’s because X is his boy and not the guy they’d like to have the targets. If it were 4 or 3 they’d be quiet. End of story.
 
Cribby said:
People are using “ forced “ and don’t even know what it means. Fact is if 4 or 3 had the same stats and targets the board would be silent. But X is Tvd’s best friend and Tvd is enemy number one with the toxic crew so X is collateral damage. Weirdos obsess on one thing when there’s so much that’s been wrong in 6 of the last 8 quarters.
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If you want to vent about X haters, I hear you big dog. He's been out most productive guy. Hating on him makes no sense

...but we're not even having the same conversation at this point.

I'm talking about the QB position needing to be better for us to beat the better teams on our schedule and people complaining that others are pointing that out just because he's (The QB for avoidance of doubt) is one of the better players on the roster
 
JHallCanes said:
wonder if the same people complaining are the same ones that said TVD was a Heisman contender after he spent his first season forcing every pass to Rambo
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Cribby said:
Bingo. As I said it’s because X is his boy and not the guy they’d like to have the targets. If it were 4 or 3 they’d be quiet. End of story.
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I agree...here's what I said in another thread

"A lot of folks really wanted to believe...I was one of them. But Rambo and Harley bailed him out A LOT that first year, and TAMU is on L number 3. We're better with him than without him, But this is a very avg college QB"
 
Luke Caneswalker said:
TVD much like Shaq are what they are. Good players. Could we not state the obvious Shaq didnt have sideline to sideline playmaking ability like our tier 2 and tier 1 LB’s to come through here??

Can we not state TVD to a point force feeds X the ball in triple coverage while other receivers are open???

Tape dont lie.
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Show me the tape where he does that more than a couple of times.

I think it's a narrative that spun out of control because of the GT game.

Maybe the problem is that we expect every player to be like our all time greats just because they play a similar position. That sounds more like a problem of our fan base than the player. TVD is a top 20 QB in college football and when he is gone it will only get worse because we haven't recruited the position well. but carry on
 
nycane said:
Colbie is a beast in the making. I hope he keeps gaining confidence. he just looks different.
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wait the guy with the most drops and fumbles is a "beast in the making."

I get it now, Colbie is your personal pick so that's why you will bang on TVD because he isn't getting "your beast" the ball enough
 
jed2410 said:
I agree...here's what I said in another thread

"A lot of folks really wanted to believe...I was one of them. But Rambo and Harley bailed him out A LOT that first year, and TAMU is on L number 3. We're better with him than without him, But this is a very avg college QB"
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Fair enough

Just saying that piling on TVD for locking on to X is like saying this bloody nose is the issue when you’ve got brain cancer
 
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Not hard to see why X gets so many targets. Putting aside the roommate thing, he's the most reliable receiver (& player) on the team. He's almost always open, rarely drops a catchable pass, and when he doesn't get the ball, puts in work blocking.

Having said that, for this offense to be at its best, the ball needs to be spread around more. Yes, X is open most plays. But other guys are open too. I feel we could do better at using our full array of talent, especially explosive guys like Smith & Ray Ray & even CJ on screens.
 
jazperbc said:
are you fking kidding me? TVD nails George under pressure on a great read and you use that as an example of not being able to read the field. X was pointing to the RB in the flat who was also open as the defender went to X.

ALL YOU CLOWNS PLEASE EXPLAIN THAT TD TO ME IF ALL TVD DOES IS THROW IT TO X EVEN WHEN COVERED? MAYBE X WAS RIGHT AND HE SHOULD HAVE HIT THE BACK IN THE FLAT FOR A 10 YARD GAIN INSTEAD OF A TD TO GEORGE. WHO AINT X. FOR CHRIST SAKE.
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All caps and <1000 posts.

Opinion: Discarded
 
Let me help you all out.

1. What is holding back TVD from being an elite QB? This is the discussion a lot of you are attempting to have. X being thrown into it is causing confusion 🤣.
 
STG said:
Nobody said we don't have good talent. But we sure as **** don't have anyone that is a clear cut #1. Restrepo is our closest option to a true #1 however.

And the point is pretty clear to me. People are complaining that TVD is locked into Restrepo too much. Going into the UNC game Restrepo had 36 receptions, George had 24 and Young had 21. Restrepo had 44 targets to Georges 32. A difference of 2.4 targets per game before UNC. Do you really some drastic difference before the UNC game? Because I don't. The distribution seems pretty good to me.

People just want to complain because Restrepo had 1 game with an extremely high amount of targets. If that happened every game, I would get the complaining. But the fact is that it doesn't.
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I love X but he isn’t number one. Put a different QB that can check down and see the field and X isn’t leading in receptions. I’m done with this silly debate.
 
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