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Will Manny actually fire his staff?

Will Manny fire multiple members of his defensive coaching staff?

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AlphaMarshan said:
So I'm going to admit that I set you up a little bit here. I don't mean to be disrespectful nor imply that you aren't competent in this world, but this a very common statement from people who aren't strength coaches, have no background in exercise physiology, and have no gold-standard certifications related to S&C (NSCA-CSCS, CSCCa-SCCC - pretty hard tests actually).

The number 1 priority of a S&C coach is to prevent injury. Period. Sure, yeah, we want our athletes to be stronger, faster, have great technique, have improved mobility, etc. But those are all secondary to injury prevention. You can't have guys running around on the field with non-contact ACL tears, blowing their knees out everywhere.

With new industry standards like the Functional Movement Screen, the S&C Coach more and more is responsible for identifying imbalances in an athlete and designing programs to "fix" issues that make them ticking timebombs on the field.

There was a season when Richt was at UGA and I swear to God half the team had ACL tears, hamstring strains, etc. I looked up the coach and he used to be their video guy at one point. Similar to Swasey: No education on this stuff and frankly, not willing to learn.

From what I've seen, coming from Felder, we've had no conditioning issues in the 4th quarter, and we've had an overwhelming reduction in non-contact (this is key) injuries like ligament tears and hamstring issues. I think Feeley is doing a really good job with what he's been given.

I respect you and I hope you haven't considered anything I've said to you as a dig or any kind of personal insult.
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Excellent analysis. Definitely makes the right point about the S&C's role...
 
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AlphaMarshan said:
So I'm going to admit that I set you up a little bit here. I don't mean to be disrespectful nor imply that you aren't competent in this world, but this a very common statement from people who aren't strength coaches, have no background in exercise physiology, and have no gold-standard certifications related to S&C (NSCA-CSCS, CSCCa-SCCC - pretty hard tests actually).

The number 1 priority of a S&C coach is to prevent injury. Period. Sure, yeah, we want our athletes to be stronger, faster, have great technique, have improved mobility, etc. But those are all secondary to injury prevention. You can't have guys running around on the field with non-contact ACL tears, blowing their knees out everywhere.

With new industry standards like the Functional Movement Screen, the S&C Coach more and more is responsible for identifying imbalances in an athlete and designing programs to "fix" issues that make them ticking timebombs on the field.

There was a season when Richt was at UGA and I swear to God half the team had ACL tears, hamstring strains, etc. I looked up the coach and he used to be their video guy at one point. Similar to Swasey: No education on this stuff and frankly, not willing to learn.

From what I've seen, coming from Felder, we've had no conditioning issues in the 4th quarter, and we've had an overwhelming reduction in non-contact (this is key) injuries like ligament tears and hamstring issues. I think Feeley is doing a really good job with what he's been given.

I respect you and I hope you haven't considered anything I've said to you as a dig or any kind of personal insult.
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I think you meant Feeley, you don’t look like you’d be a fan of anything Felder.

And, yes, it’s a trick question, but if that’s the primary focus, then the development point is being missed. A well thought out program WILL achieve both goals: injury prevention and measurable athletic improvement. If it’s only injury prevention then I would consider it a fail.

We can also debate if Miami actually has 4Q strength, because it didn’t look like that against Clemson, UNC or any team with a pulse. Strength … is conditioning. Strength … is speed. Strength … is endurance. Miami looked good against teams they were already better than could be my argument (and it’s bolstered by me generalizing your point that [the athletes are the athletes are the athletes and S&C job is to keep them from injury] … my bad, was that another dig? Reflexive. lol); like Hill v Wiggins.

No worries, bro. All good fun and nothing personal taken — but just watch your back when crossing the street.
 
Feeley is one of the few coaches who is not only been solid, but much better than expected.

I also think Lashlee, despite the typical clueless fans *****ing, was a good hire. Good coach.

We didn’t lose to UNC or Clemson bc of S and C. We lost bc this defense has never been able to stop good modern offenses going back to when the Big 12 ran a train on Diaz.
 
So far Manny has made all of the offseason adjustments that were necessary and attainable. Blake Baker should be fired after Saturday. It does not matter what he does moving forward, he lost all credibility with that game. Yes, the players quit and that is another issue, but he had no answers for UNC and it honestly wasn't the first time he couldn't stop an offense, just the most extreme example. If Manny keeps Baker, then their fates are tied together next year and Bakers failures will also be Manny's.

I have faith that he will continue to do what he needs to do, but we'll see.
 
Tetragrammaton Cane said:
I think you meant Feeley, you don’t look like you’d be a fan of anything Felder.

And, yes, it’s a trick question, but if that’s the primary focus, then the development point is being missed. A well thought out program WILL achieve both goals: injury prevention and measurable athletic improvement. If it’s only injury prevention then I would consider it a fail.

We can also debate if Miami actually has 4Q strength, because it didn’t look like that against Clemson, UNC or any team with a pulse. Strength … is conditioning. Strength … is speed. Strength … is endurance. Miami looked good against teams they were already better than could be my argument (and it’s bolstered by me generalizing your point that [the athletes are the athletes are the athletes and S&C job is to keep them from injury] … my bad, was that another dig? Reflexive. lol); like Hill v Wiggins.
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I re-read what I wrote and I think I said it right. I meant that we've transitioned from Felder to Feeley and I think the benefits are there.

Also, you seem S&C-inclined. I'd like to see you get something like this and formulate your own analysis of how you'd train players - maybe even get your CSCS if you have a degree! I've been out of the research for a while, you could brush me up on the latest.
Tetragrammaton Cane said:
No worries, bro. All good fun and nothing personal taken — but just watch your back when crossing the street.
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Oh ****! Gotta watch my back now! lol
 
Baker has been trash since the get-go, and though the magnitude of this loss may well be his undoing, the signs if his incompetence have been there all along. Baker should have been fired when Manny took the headset away and 'had to get more involved with the defense' last season, IMO. That was Manny's defining moment as a HC and when I believe he lost this team. Then, in exchange for his loyalty to ****-poor coaches, I suppose he decided to "let the players police themselves"... and, well, that hasn't turned out so well either. This is pathetic. Blake James should be terminated for allowing 3 coaches in a row to compromise the program over personal relationships. Reminds me of one of my favorite movies...

"Listen, if you didn't know you were being scammed you're too ******' dumb to keep this job, if you did know, you were in on it. Either way, YOU'RE OUT! Get out. Go on, let's go."
 
305407cane said:
Will he tho? Real questions
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The BOT should be insulted, at the very least. They should force Frenk to ****-can Blake James for his incompetence and hire Alonzo Highsmith. Anyone who wanted to move the program in a different direction when we hired Richt and Manny should be emboldened now. This is a mess of epic proportions and firing Baker is the only remedy short of firing Manny, which is the ultimate solution.
 
Manny will keep his staph, and move away from the 4-2-5 defense. He thinks the result will be good enough to keep his job. He wrong.
 
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Pearson704 said:
The BOT should be insulted, at the very least. They should force Frenk to ****-can Blake James for his incompetence and hire Alonzo Highsmith. Anyone who wanted to move the program in a different direction when we hired Richt and Manny should be emboldened now. This is a mess of epic proportions and firing Baker is the only remedy short of firing Manny, which is the ultimate solution.
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There were rumors that soffer was gonna foot the bill for Mario’s buyout. Just rumors
 
I’m sorry but if no changes are implemented after giving up 500 yards on the ground and 62 points then I don’t know what to tell you
 
I just don't see how a true championship-minded head coach moves forward with this defensive coordinator.

Manny Diaz handed Baker the best defense this program has had in nearly 20 years--ranked 18th nationally. He proceeds to take it to 23rd in 2019 and 47th in 2020. This same guy has continually miscalculated his opponents abilities, became statue-stiff when it came to adjustments and played young men without the heart or talent to be allowed on the field. In his two year tenure at Miami, he has twice been throttled by the same opponent and caught flat-footed--the infamous 4th and 17 play in 2019 and the absolute embarrassment we witness yesterday. When it comes to punishment for team failures, a coordinators time is far shorter than a coaches'. We have incredible talent about to get pumped into our program and they deserve equally talented coordinators. Baker is not the man this team deserves and if he is not removed and replaced with someone more competent, then Manny Diaz' woes shall be his own.
 
Nothing will change, this is the best we get. Live with it guys, I have made peace with it
 
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He “spoke” to Nesta sternly after that stupid *** facemask. That is pop Warner ****. Scream at the stupid **** and make him accountable. The has been ZERO accountability since the redhead left for Cleveland.

**** ALL THE BUTCH HATERS!
 
He won’t want to because that puts him one step closer to being fired. He needs to hold the “fire your coaches” card as long as he can. Because once the new hires fail he knows he’s out too.
 
The Clemson lost was not about defense it was about offense being overwhelmed and defense breaking towards the end! The UNFreakingC lost was all about baker and manny terrible scheme and always thinking they can make halftime adjustments and pray offense catch up! The defensive staff needs to go bring in Corey Raymond let him choose his staff and let’s move forward! We have talent but no coaching and development on that side outside of CB
 
AlphaMarshan said:
I re-read what I wrote and I think I said it right. I meant that we've transitioned from Felder to Feeley and I think the benefits are there.

Also, you seem S&C-inclined. I'd like to see you get something like this and formulate your own analysis of how you'd train players - maybe even get your CSCS if you have a degree! I've been out of the research for a while, you could brush me up on the latest.

Oh ****! Gotta watch my back now! lol
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I have an acquaintance who is extremely well-connected in the S&C world. Dude is a Ph.D. and incredibly science-oriented. He knows Feeley and speaks very highly of him. (Feeley taught some of his classes at FIU.)

That was not what he felt about either Swasey or Gus. Feeley is an asset.
 
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