Who would we realistically get as hc

Yup. He’s a rah rah guy, but it works because he backs it with results (again, unlike Manny).

"Unlike Manny"? Minnesota was 9-4 the year before PJ got there. He went 5-7 his first year, including getting blown out by Northwestern 39-0. These people raging against Manny would have been doing the same against PJ.

So yes, PJ has "backed it with results"....... in his THIRD year.
 
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Mike Norvell.

He has a $500K buyout, he's dirt cheap & has transformed every Offense he's got his hands on. The last time AZ St won 10 games back to back was with Norvell at OC.

He's had Memphis amongst the top offenses for 3 years in a row now, great QB developer & elite Rushing Offense every year.

It's no brainer, he's the best & most accessible choice for us were we to fire Diaz.
But does he want the job? That's the X factor.
 
"Unlike Manny"? Minnesota was 9-4 the year before PJ got there. He went 5-7 his first year, including getting blown out by Northwestern 39-0. These people raging against Manny would have been doing the same against PJ.

So yes, PJ has "backed it with results"....... in his THIRD year.
Careful, you'll be attacked for applying reason to this.
 
I think Miami needs to start landing some polynesian kids, who are hyper competitive about winning football games. Would go a long way in fixing the OL and LB situation. As another poster pointed out, they will typically only play for coaches with a polynesian connection. Need someone on the coaching staff to reel those kids in. Both Chris Peterson and Mike Leach do pretty well with recruiting those kids because they are both Mormon. If you've never been to American Samoa, it has a massive LDS influence (the entire island is basically shut down on Sundays). If we can't get Leach, Peterson, or Niumatatolo, what's June Jones up to nowadays?
 
A competent AD would have reached out to people like

Bill Clark
Jay Norvell
Matt Ruhle
Mark Stoops(He was interested in the Miami job, he should have been the fallback option)

Even a nut job like Mike Leach would have been an upgrade over this nonsense.

And top end assistants to see what was out there. Miami didn't reach out to ANYONE. They had no plan. If you had no plan, you should have talked Richt into coming back for a victory lap season. Odds are he wouldn't have been this bad. Let that settle in. Miami is WORSE than last year. It took me 2 minutes to name those names, and do cursory research. Blake James didn't even have the skill to do that.
 
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The fans will. The others? Not a chance. If the guy doesn't come in averaging 45-50 pts and win 10 games from the rip it ain't happening.
I was one expecting great things especially this year.I like many others didn't face reality we no matter who the hc is need to realize the canes are a rebuild project from top to bottom.
 
Again, where is this abundance of head coaches lining up to take over this program? Time for people to accept this gig isn't as desirable as our fans think it is.

Schiano didn't want it in 2007, when Shannon fell upwards into the role—and when Golden took it, guys like Edsall and Trestman were the other names thrown around.

Post-Golden, Richt signed on as an alum as he was up for one last go-around when Georgia parted ways with him—but again, no one else was interested in the job.

Outside of Mike Leach's name tossed around years back—a quirky outlier who's offense works with a next-level quarterback (Minshew) and doesn't without, while he has never given two ***** about defense—again, minimal interest from any for the Miami job.

Look at Florida State; a state school with a big budget and boosters who write checks. Had to settle on Willie Taggart and despite firing the man weeks ago, absolutely striking out in their coaching search. Also the same reason aTm paid Jimbo Fisher a mint and poached him from FSU; because there aren't a slew of proven coaches out there ready to make moves.

Same to be said for a lot of these second tier guys at smaller schools that seem ready to go next-level—a Matt Campbell, or others like him. Staying put until the right gig comes up; a la Tom Herman leaving Houston for Texas.

Most of these guys coach college ball as they love the collegiate experience—which Miami doesn't offer; a pro sports town mentality, ready to run off a first-year guy before season one is even in the books—taking no consideration of the state of the program he took over. Hardly a ringing endorsement for UM if they can Diaz after 12 games—as no quality guy is going to uproot his life for nine months to fix a program.

Matt Rhule went 1-11 and 7-6 at Baylor before turning things around year three—having taken over a program that was 11-2, 11-2 and 10-3 the year before he took over.

I'm not saying Diaz is the next Rhule. Manny may very well be a bust, but you don't figure that out year one. Even if you lack confidence in him, a guy is going to at least get a second year—and most a third.

Florida State pulled the trigger on Willie late in year two; and is now on the hook to pay out the *** for him, with a cash-poor athletic department now begging boosters for money to help with a new hire .... while getting turned down but the likes of Bob Stoops and no quality candidates in the pipeline. (Won't be shocked if FSU winds up promoting Briles from within if they strike out elsewhere, instead of the HCIW title they want to give him when bringing in someone else to restore order.)

A lot of parity and competition on today's game. College football head coaching hirings have become a game of opposite musical chairs; not a ton of guys out there ready to make the leap and a lot of empty seats.

So you're saying that the Miami gig is a worse job than

Baylor
SMU
Texas Tech
Boise State
UAB
Utah State
Toledo
Washington State
Kentucky
Memphis


Do you realize how utterly stupid your comment is? MIAMI DIDN'T TRY TO CONDUCT A SEARCH . FULL STOP. Miami didn't even make a single phone call. Not a single one. Miami didn't reach out to any agents, Miami didn't even have a sensible timeline. They couldn't even sleep on the Diaz hire overnight. They had NOTHING. Merely mentioning Diaz 8 hours after Richt left(WITH NO BUYOUT), should have been grounds for firing.
 
Mike Norvell.

He has a $500K buyout, he's dirt cheap & has transformed every Offense he's got his hands on. The last time AZ St won 10 games back to back was with Norvell at OC.

He's had Memphis amongst the top offenses for 3 years in a row now, great QB developer & elite Rushing Offense every year.

It's no brainer, he's the best & most accessible choice for us were we to fire Diaz.
This is who I wanted last year. Sadly he will be off the market in 4 years when Mandy is fired
 
Question is are we fans gonna give anybody the university hires as a hc a chance if the team doesn't look good from game 1.secondly this scenario won't take place for another year or two at the most.third are you gonna show support to the current players who are putting on that uniform.I'm as disgusted as anyone about this **** show but I'm still a cane fan and I'm not going away.
bro we have seen 15 years of total ****, so yea we know it when we see it, cut bait right now and be done, Manwell cannot coach, he never could. I'm sure the players want to win more than anything, they know Manwell is bringin down their stock. Their is no doubt the fans made a difference in fat Al being fired, same with Mork, if enough **** is raised and money supply cut they will do something, it may not be right lol but still, the fan base can affect those ni@@as up top.
 
"Unlike Manny"? Minnesota was 9-4 the year before PJ got there. He went 5-7 his first year, including getting blown out by Northwestern 39-0. These people raging against Manny would have been doing the same against PJ.

So yes, PJ has "backed it with results"....... in his THIRD year.
1. Miami is not Minnesota. Minnesota is not Miami
2. We’re located in the breeding ground for some of the best Talent in the entire country. So our logo carries more weight than Minnesota in recruiting
3. PJ fleck never promised to Minnesota that all it took was an OC to take his program to 11 wins. Manny did. When you don’t make empty promises you don’t have to worry about pressure.
 
bro we have seen 15 years of total ****, so yea we know it when we see it, cut bait right now and be done, Manwell cannot coach, he never could. I'm sure the players want to win more than anything, they know Manwell is bringin down their stock. Their is no doubt the fans made a difference in fat Al being fired, same with Mork, if enough **** is raised and money supply cut they will do something, it may not be right lol but still, the fan base can affect those ni@@as up top.
sad part there's no logical reason for us to be so bad for so long.have some talent need a decent coach make it work.
 
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It is a race to the bottom on CI. Porster after porster after porster making porst after porst after porst.

Again, since it isn’t clear yet, if you’re suggesting coaches or firing them, you don’t understand where the actual problems are with the program. All your attention should be towards the admin, BOT, Blake James and getting rid of the chit that makes up our athletic department.
Yeah no **** but we still need a new coach and this is a discussion board.
 
they should just pay Jimmy half a mill to handle the next coach search, get the monkey off their back, him being considered a god like figure in SoFlo and all. Damm i wonder who Jimmy would call first
 
sad part there's no logical reason for us to be so bad for so long.have some talent need a decent coach make it work.
yep, **** just look at the draft history, we got dudes. I think that year fat Al had what 6 in the first couple rounds, and got *** reemed by teams with nobody drafted, really woke some people up
 
He just signed a 7 year $33.25million extension with a $10million dollar buyout last week.

Buyout drops precipitously after this offseason. Basically guarantees Fleck stays in Minnesota for next season, but also shows Minnesota knows he's gone after.

Which would line up perfectly with Miami's timeline because there's no chance Blake admits his own failure and fires Manny this offseason.
 
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