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TimeB0mb said:
I think Miami needs to start landing some polynesian kids, who are hyper competitive about winning football games. Would go a long way in fixing the OL and LB situation. As another poster pointed out, they will typically only play for coaches with a polynesian connection. Need someone on the coaching staff to reel those kids in. Both Chris Peterson and Mike Leach do pretty well with recruiting those kids because they are both Mormon. If you've never been to American Samoa, it has a massive LDS influence (the entire island is basically shut down on Sundays). If we can't get Leach, Peterson, or Niumatatolo, what's June Jones up to nowadays?
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I'm almost positive Peterson isn't Mormon but having that Polynesian connection to match with the South Florida speed would be ridiculous.
 
Echtcane said:
"Unlike Manny"? Minnesota was 9-4 the year before PJ got there. He went 5-7 his first year, including getting blown out by Northwestern 39-0. These people raging against Manny would have been doing the same against PJ.

So yes, PJ has "backed it with results"....... in his THIRD year.
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Yes, unlike Manny, Fleck has won at both the G5 and P5 level. Tell me where the misstatement is?

The dude also won 13 games at Western Michigan. And has Minnesota in the AP Top 10 for the first time since when...the Roosevelt administration.
 
PredaCane said:
Careful, you'll be attacked for applying reason to this.
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Fundamental difference between Fleck and Diaz. FLECK COACHED AT WMU, SO YOU AT LEAST KNEW THAT HE HAD EXPERIENCE BUILDING A PROGRAM. Diaz on the other hand had ZERO EXPERIENCE as a HC. When it comes to hires, unless you go out and buy a surefire HOFer like Alabama did with Saban, it's all a crapshoot. That said, you want to take the best person you can find. Miami didn't even try to find someone, they merely went down the hall and gave the job to an assistant leaving the program. It wasn't even like Richt left right before the season started like Bob Stoops. He left in the prime part of the year for coaching searches. Miami didn't have to pay a buyout for the first time in 20 years. They had BY FAR the most attractive job on the market(no huge factory schools had a vacancy). Yet Miami chose Diaz.

How do you like that logic?
 
tradercane said:
The best candidate is someone that no one will mention and its Joe Brady from LSU.
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Give me a break. This is his first year ever a position coach even. He's done a great job implementing RPO concepts and wr routes into their offense. But as a head man? He needs a few more years (as the sole playcaller even) somewhere before this happens.
 
BS85 said:
I'm almost positive Peterson isn't Mormon but having that Polynesian connection to match with the South Florida speed would be ridiculous.
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You might be right. I was researching it and I can't find that he has ever outright stated his faith. He was apparently considered by BYU for a HC job at one point so I assumed he is Mormon. Leach is without a doubt Mormon (how observant is another question).
 
Clean the AD and anyone associated w the AD (Strawley), get some of the hags off the BOT who continue to push for mediocrity, and then we can cook w gas. Until then, no faith.
 
Canedude08 said:
Fundamental difference between Fleck and Diaz. FLECK COACHED AT WMU, SO YOU AT LEAST KNEW THAT HE HAD EXPERIENCE BUILDING A PROGRAM. Diaz on the other hand had ZERO EXPERIENCE as a HC. When it comes to hires, unless you go out and buy a surefire HOFer like Alabama did with Saban, it's all a crapshoot. That said, you want to take the best person you can find. Miami didn't even try to find someone, they merely went down the hall and gave the job to an assistant leaving the program. It wasn't even like Richt left right before the season started like Bob Stoops. He left in the prime part of the year for coaching searches. Miami didn't have to pay a buyout for the first time in 20 years. They had BY FAR the most attractive job on the market(no huge factory schools had a vacancy). Yet Miami chose Diaz.

How do you like that logic?
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democrat's ?? I mean that is the way they do business, you know do something that makes absolutely no sense, lose their ***, then do the same thing again. You would sure think after the Randolph experiment they woulda learned something
 
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After the GA. Tech game I fell into the lose and lose bad crowd. Even then most had us beating FIU. They then pull out a win at Pitt at the end, beat a sorry FSU team and play the best game of the season against Louisville followed up with a devastating historic loss to FIU. If they beat Duke to finish 7-5 the narrative will be you can't fire him after 1 season but we all know that he sucks and it's just delaying the inevitable. Going 7-5 in the SEC west is not the same as the Coastal. A&M is a prime example, they will have losses to Clemson, Auburn, Alabama, Georgia and LSU. Not to GA. Tech, FIU and UNC.
 
We would get Temple's current coach or one of our coordinators if the past is any indicator of the future.
 
Katzenboyer said:
Yes, unlike Manny, Fleck has won at both the G5 and P5 level. Tell me where the misstatement is?

The dude also won 13 games at Western Michigan. And has Minnesota in the AP Top 10 for the first time since when...the Roosevelt administration.
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Don't act as if I disrespected Fleck. What he's done is impressive. The point is, he's had a CHANCE to do this.
Could Diaz be a terrible coach? Sure. I just think it's ridiculous that people are making these absolutist judgments when he's not even coached for one year when more experienced coaches have bad 1st years and done well later. People are acting like they know the future. They don't.
 
Lane Kiffin has a decent shot at his 2nd 10 win season in 3 years at FAU, and winning C-USA 2 out of the last 3 years. All aboard the Lane Train!

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ItsAUThing.com said:
Post-Golden, Richt signed on as an alum as he was up for one last go-around when Georgia parted ways with him—but again, no one else was interested in the job.
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I know the "search" wasn't as egregious as this time around, but when RIcht got fired, didn't Blake do something similar? He boarded a plane to "go get his guy" in Richt?
 
Echtcane said:
Don't act as if I disrespected Fleck. What he's done is impressive. The point is, he's had a CHANCE to do this.
Could Diaz be a terrible coach? Sure. I just think it's ridiculous that people are making these absolutist judgments when he's not even coached for one year when more experienced coaches have bad 1st years and done well later. People are acting like they know the future. They don't.
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Fair points. But the “chance” for Manny to “do this” should come at a place like Temple, or Western Michigan, or Minnesota - not the U.

We are not a program that should be hiring first team head coaches - ever. The learning curve is simply too much at this level.

The fact that we did goes to show you the wet blanket we have as our AD currently. Manny should have never been able to force his hand the way he did with Blake, and that’s a sad state of affairs.
 
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UMFarArcher said:
Well, he was up to snuff as of last night . . .

Too bad you didn't see the game last night.
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Was he or did he just sit back and let our brilliant offensive coordinator outsmart himself? You know, like calling play action out of the shot gun on 4th and 1 against the 112 rated rush defense.
 
5Rings&an Asterisk said:
Was he or did he just sit back and let our brilliant offensive coordinator outsmart himself? You know, like calling play action out of the shot gun on 4th and 1 against the 112 rated rush defense.
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Does it matter?

FIU. Frikkin' FIU - beat us.

Butch used to beat us after he took over a 4-win team at UNC.

That's not chance.
 
Katzenboyer said:
Fair points. But the “chance” for Manny to “do this” should come at a place like Temple, or Western Michigan, or Minnesota - not the U.

We are not a program that should be hiring first team head coaches - ever. The learning curve is simply too much at this level.
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I agree with that. But it's really a separate question from what's being argued on here about Manny deserving to be fired and the guaranteed assumption among some that he can't succeed here. I understand people being angry with the admins who don't seem to care enough about the program and the rushed hire, but that's already been done and I don't see them making a change after year 1. It's just not done, even at places with lunatic boosters like the SEC. **** Florida went 4-8 losing to Georgia Southern in Muschamp's 3rd year, and they still brought him back. So beyond venting that the loss was horrible, what does this constant savaging of Manny by the fan base do? Anything positive in it? Anything to help the program? I guess if I had to grasp at anything, maybe it could convince him to make staff changes, but I only want that to happen if he can actually get better coaches. It's hard to get good assistants when people are out with pitchforks and they think they'll be fired in 1-2 years.
 
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