We finished 22nd last year, hired a couple expensive coaches and brought almost everyone back. Top 15 is a very realistic expectation without having to live in the past.
Same fears here my man and then I have the thought of maybe he will figure it out and be the guy... Its an endless cycle of mental gymnastics.I would agree that top 15 is a reasonable expectation with the talent on this team. However, I've seen enough from Manny to know that he isn't the guy to lead this team to long term success and I don't want him fluking into a 9-10 win season and earning an extension. I know that changing coaches every few years isn't a recipe for success, but it's necessary when you continually make terrible hires.
Waiting for the rest of the Mopes to get in here
I think a lot of posters on these boards (not specifically you, just generally speaking) don't know what a 15th ranked team looks like.Ok, forget what recruiting rankings say or what a poll of writers/coaches say. Performance over a period of time is what matters. Miami is NOT a top 15 program and unlikely to enjoy such a lofty ranking this year. The notion or suggestion of a current ceiling being higher than top 15 or aspiring to such reeks of a bunch of fanboys. We all live in the past and want great things, but if we're honest Miami is slightly more than a middle-of-the-road ACC team.
The facts and record are what they are.
This says it all: Amazingly, we only finished Top 15 once in the past sixteen years.
Very true, but my-Oh-my how the once mighty have fallen ...The Athletic released a poll of coaches/ADs on the best jobs in college football. Miami finished 13th.
247's "Team Talent Composite" calculates total recruiting rankings for each team's roster. Miami finished 13th.
Before the season, the AP poll picked us 14th. Our NFL numbers fluctuate but are now in the 10-13 range.
What's the point? I think a fair current expectation and goal is the Top 15. Anything outside of that is a disappointment, and anything within that is progress. Amazingly, we only finished Top 15 once in the past sixteen years. That was 2017, when we finished 13th.
We all know the ceiling is higher than Top 15. This is a program that has won championships in three different decades. But the best way to move towards that long-term goal is to hit the realistic short-term goal. This team needs to beat Michigan State, perform well in the ACC, hopefully win a bowl and finish in the Top 15. That is a fair expectation.
This is a great post, mostly because it's exactly where my mindset is at. Would I love to compete for a championship? Of course. But realistically we would need a top-5 head coach followed by 2-3 years of top 5 recruiting classes and a bit of luck. So for now I would be perfectly content to get 10 wins, win a bowl game, finish in the top 15 and at least be COMPETITVE against the elites (Alabama, Clemson, etc.).The Athletic released a poll of coaches/ADs on the best jobs in college football. Miami finished 13th.
247's "Team Talent Composite" calculates total recruiting rankings for each team's roster. Miami finished 13th.
Before the season, the AP poll picked us 14th. Our NFL numbers fluctuate but are now in the 10-13 range.
What's the point? I think a fair current expectation and goal is the Top 15. Anything outside of that is a disappointment, and anything within that is progress. Amazingly, we only finished Top 15 once in the past sixteen years. That was 2017, when we finished 13th.
We all know the ceiling is higher than Top 15. This is a program that has won championships in three different decades. But the best way to move towards that long-term goal is to hit the realistic short-term goal. This team needs to beat Michigan State, perform well in the ACC, hopefully win a bowl and finish in the Top 15. That is a fair expectation.