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We better have a Top 10 defensive backfield this year

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OBLIVION said:
The DB and the DL shouldn't be a concern unless injuries jump in the equation.

The problem comes from a LB core that is as brittle as Elijah Price. It will have an effect on the other units.
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Yeah imo there are more questions about the linebacker situation heading into the season than at db. I do Like the talent of guys like McCloud, huff, brooks and also taq though. Just a lot of inexperience
 
Dwinstitles said:
Those names vs our names c'mon man.....just cause we got guys from sfla doesn't mean they are as elite as those guys posted by d.
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Quit talking out of your *** lol, I know What they were rated in highschool but have ANY of those guys been elite in college so far? That answer is a resounding no.:monkey-serious: I get It, some were elite recruits, but elite players on the college level? **** no or anything close to that
 
Dwinstitles said:
Do agree with top ten finish....but we got late rounders while those school pushing out first rounders
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Comparing apples to oranges.

Those programs recruit the best of the best because they win. If one 5 star doesn't work. They have another to step in his place. The have the odds in their favor. That their starters will get drafted higher. Then take into account that they play with 10 other dudes that are just as highly rated as them. So as a complete unit. They will look better.

We aren't on that level in any aspect. We've got a guy here and there. If this program can win consistently. That will change. As of this moment however. We just have to keep grinding.

The defense has played well enough for the most part. We just need the offense and ST to step their level up. The wins will come and so will the players.
 
Golsen82 said:
We get all the second tier 4 stars, the better ones leave for kkk land
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The “better “ ones that haven’t done ANY better than the dbs we have now? Some of y’all hyping these kids like they all have been what cj henderson was after year 1 or year 2 and they havent been close to that
 
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skeeter said:
I like Blades, but don't think he's a #1...For the record, I liked him more than Ivey in HS too. I think he can leave UM a late round pick

Those stats are so misleading though, again we played retardo passing teams.

Like for instance that La Tech game...Kids were catching balls on Blades all day...The announcers kept saying he has coverage...Well at some point when you have "coverage"...A conference USA kid should not be outfighting you for every reception.
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At some point you have to give credit to the WR for making tough catches. I already made screenshots of all the catches against Blades in that game. He was DRAPING the WR on all the catches minus 1 slant route which was the only time he got beat all game.
 
Astcloud11 said:
At some point you have to give credit to the WR for making tough catches. I already made screenshots of all the catches against Blades in that game. He was DRAPING the WR on all the catches minus 1 slant route which was the only time he got beat all game.
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Oh I definitely do, no doubt...And I do like Blades...I'm just saying its one point you have to cause incompletions too.
 
I expect our pass D numbers to fall this year. If our O scores the way we all hope they will, other teams will be passing a lot more. I do expect our INTs to go way up, though. You can't look at rankings alone. If we are scoring 40 a game, teams will be passing, a lot.

I fully expect our D to get more sacks, and more turnovers. The chaos the D will bring playing with leads will be a wonderful thing to watch. Just don't be upset when we give up more passing yards than you'd like.
 
brock said:
Quit talking out of your *** lol, I know What they were rated in highschool but have ANY of those guys been elite in college so far? That answer is a resounding no.:monkey-serious: I get It, some were elite recruits, but elite players on the college level? **** no or anything close to that
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We about to find out this season. Just get Ivey out of my sight. Also rating is no indication of elite I look at it as what schools were going full court press after a DB......like houses money etc. I don't think we have guys like that. Guys that got offered the world....maybe Hall
 
Aside from pure talent and play on the field at the corner position I think we may need to play 3 safeties regularly in addition to the striker position to protect reps and the limited bodies we have at corner. I also find it intriguing seeing Bolden & Tae play some nickel while Hall, Carter, and Keontra play the more traditional safety spots. It puts an additional athlete on the field and likely gives more time to the freshman to rightfully develop and not be forced into action unless they start balling immediately in the summer.
 
OBLIVION said:
Comparing apples to oranges.

Those programs recruit the best of the best because they win. If one 5 star doesn't work. They have another to step in his place. The have the odds in their favor. That their starters will get drafted higher. Then take into account that they play with 10 other dudes that are just as highly rated as them. So as a complete unit. They will look better.

We aren't on that level in any aspect. We've got a guy here and there. If this program can win consistently. That will change. As of this moment however. We just have to keep grinding.

The defense has played well enough for the most part. We just need the offense and ST to step their level up. The wins will come and so will the players.
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I can get behind this post. Let's see what happens next season I'm desperately waiting to see wtf happens. I just think if u can't coach u just can't coach......hope I'm wrong though.
 
skeeter said:
A lot of it is bad evaluation...I'm saying, I don't give a **** what a site's screen tells me, I didn't believe DJ Ivey was a 4* then, and he certainly hasn't played like one.



And just think if you weight it for the brutally bad slate of passing offenses and overall QB we faced, because that particular strength of schedule is no higher than high 60s, and prob closer to the 80s. You can make an arguement we faced about 1.5 real QB last year (with the one making his 2nd start...Any of the others were just not terrible, and some of those were underclassmen.

I haven't given up on Gurvan Hall, he has his moments and didn't miss many tackles after September, he prevented big plays if nothing else...I like Bubba Bolden, and think he can be excellent if he comes back well from injury. I think Al Blades will leave here a late round pick, but I don't think he's a #1 CB on any good Miami Hurricanes team...Carter is average at best, Ivey should be a 5th or 6th corner. Bandy was average at best last year.

Hopefully Couch, Williams, K.Smith step up.

Again, when you realize we played NOTHING in terms of opposing passing offenses, you realize that secondary was pretty mediocre. Especially when you consider that they are playing behind a very good DL (The pass rush wasn't great in some games, no doubt...But still better than most of CFB)
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guvan and bubba wer every good together. we need christian williams or couch to step up, cant be a great defense with ivy starting.
 
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DMoney said:
Or the high-profile recruiting losses will really hurt.

247Sports recently released projected depth charts for Alabama, Florida and Georgia. All four of Bama’s projected starting DBs (Surtain, Jobe, Battle and Wright) were from South Florida. Three of Florida’s starters (Wilson, Elam and Davis) were from South Florida. Finally, two of Georgia’s starters (Tyrique and Campbell) were from South Florida, along with their top backup (Wilson).

There is plenty of talent in Miami’s defensive backfield. Eleven total four stars. But given what has left the region, we need Rumph and Banda to coach our guys to an elite level. 37th in yards per pass attempt is not good enough, especially considering our pass rush. Anything less than a Top 10 finish is a failure.
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Welcome to thee dark side, my friend. lol.
 
Expecting a decent pass defense is reasonable.

Expecting a pass defense to be somehow anywhere near equivalent to other pass defenses that are stocked with five stars in the three deep, is not.

I honestly don’t think we have the talent to have a top 10 pass defense because we just haven’t recruited like that.

I don’t care how well you will coach and how well you develop, it’s nearly impossible to match the bag-SEC schools with their overload of talent in the 2 and 3-deep.

Expecting a top 10 pass defense or else, is absurd. Expecting a top 20 to 30 pass defense is reasonable.

The title of this thread is troll worthy based on our recruiting
 
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