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We are Mark Richt’s Georgia

JohnZarrilli said:
Hate to say it, but we are. We’ll be competitive. Win 9-11 games per year. But we’ll never be elite.
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Richt built the team they have now. If he were coaching Georgia this year, they would still have won the SEC. If you take Richt's skills and add the South Florida talent, we will be back. We had little depth at most positions this year and we don't have a QB. Even if Kayaa had returned, we would have won Pitt and Wisconsin this year.
 
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TurnoverChain said:
We were missing our 3 best offensive players tonight. We don't have depth. I'm just as upset as anyone right now but let's slow down. **** this stings.
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True Miami fans know we are headed in the right direction. If these dooms dayers want to continue to sulk in their misery, let them do just that.
 
A full roster and better QB might allow that.

I am hoping for the best but because the things I mentioned are so basic I really think its coach not the roster. I had 7 year olds running jet sweeps,counters and all kinds of motion, spinners and even a screen play. Any D1 team can do o it. He is set in his ways and as a stubborn guy myself i can appreciate that but those 2 formations look ridiculous and are never gonna work. He needs help. Rosier said he never watched film until this Spring. WTF is that all about? Who was his qb coach last year? Who was his OC last year? Pretty sure they were both named Richt
 
jhtheking said:
Bolded is just not true. Can't really trust the rest of your inside info when you have a penchant for mendacity.

Also, they would have been in the CFP in 2002 and 2007.
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1. As for his record against Top 25 Teams

According to Source #1 : After Georgia went 25-13 against ranked opponents in Richt's first seven seasons, it has gone 14-23 against them in the eight seasons since, including a 0-2 mark this year. This would be a 39-36 total.

According to Source #2 : MARK RICHT – MIAMI FLA. – 39-36 (52%) [This article was written before the season]

- Keep in mind I have no idea if this means ranked when they played or ranked when they finished the season. Obviously it would mean more if these teams finished in the Top-25. Remember that UF game in 2013, they were ranked #1 2 when we played and finished 4-8.


2. It seems that Richt's tenure can be summed up as two different tenures:

First 7 Years:

- Wins Per Season: 10.3
- Conference Wins: 5.7
- Conference Titles: 2
- Top 10 AP Finishes: 5
- BCS Games: 3

Last 8 Years:

- Wins Per Season: 9.1
- Conference Wins: 5.4
- Conference Titles: 0
- Top 10 AP Finishes: 2
- BCS Games: 0


Honestly, a lot of what Richt did and accomplished at UGA was when the conference was weaker. His last SEC Champ was in 2005, then he went _______ without one.

[The records below represent Richt's record v. these teams]

Against UF:

2001: Spurrier 0-1
2002-04: Zook 1-2
2005-10: Meyer 1-5
2011-15: Muschump 3-1

Against LSU:

2001-04: Saban 1-1 (Doesn't play against LSU in 2001 and 2002)
2005-15: Miles 3-2 (Doesn't play against LSU in 2006, 2007, 2010, 2012, 2014 and 2015)

Against Alabama:

2001-02: Franchione 1-0 (Doesn't play against Bama in 2001)
2003-06: Shula 1-0 (Doesn't play against Bama in 2004, 2005 and 2006)
2006-15: Saban 1-3 (Doesn't play against Bama in 2009, 2010, 2011, 2013, 2014)




Source #1 : Mark Richt won a lot of games at Georgia, just not the right ones

Source #2 : Which college football head coaches are best & worst vs. Top 25 teams?
 
The knock on Rick in Georgia was his stubbornness to make the necessary changes. Admin had to insist that he hire an OC and also the Willie Martinez disaster imploded in his face. He was forced to fire him after denying to himself that Martinez was just bad.

Rick isn’t going anywhere so point is moot for a long while. However I am very concerned about the defensive side of the ball. The O struggles are more understandable no QB and 3 starters out with no depth.

The defense on the other hand despite being healthy for the most part was putrid the last 3 games. It takes some special ineptitude to get outscored 21-0 in 2 consecutive games. Clemson in Charlotte ok maybe more understandable. However a sub par QB at Wisky on your home field is an another entirely different issue. He was a problem all year their defense carried them but here he looked like Aaron Rodgers.

I hope I am wrong about the D I really do. I am also not the only 1 saying this however.
 
gacaneaddict said:
Even UGA fans are too ignorant to realize had a playoff been in place in year 2 of Richt there, he would have gotten them to the playoff just like Kirby.
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First, I don't give a chit about UGA fans.

Second, not sure if this part of the post above is serious or a serious attempt to defend Richt. If it is a serious attempt to defend Richt, even if true, that happened _____ years ago. The guy last won the SEC in 2005 which was _____ years ago.

Third, if a coach did a lot in the beginning of their tenure but didn't do nearly as much recently (see below); how is that a good defense of their track record? Just dismiss all of the NOW because _____ years ago he might have made the playoffs if one existed.

It seems that Richt's tenure can be summed up as two different tenures:

First 7 Years:

- Wins Per Season: 10.3
- Conference Wins: 5.7
- Conference Titles: 2
- Top 10 AP Finishes: 5
- BCS Games: 3

Last 8 Years:

- Wins Per Season: 9.1
- Conference Wins: 5.4
- Conference Titles: 0
- Top 10 AP Finishes: 2
- BCS Games: 0


gacaneaddict said:
Miami is coming off probation with 73 scholarship players.
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People are still talking about the cloud, wow.
 
CobaltBlueCane said:
This is what happens when you fire a coach who couldn’t take the program to the next level and hire a coach who just got fired for not being able to take his team to the next level. Another joke of a season masked in smoke and mirrors. No program around is as punchless when it matters as these candy canes.
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Pathetic fan base! We had Golden 2 years ago, we won nothing, we did not beat FSU, horrible recruiting classes, no positive vibes and did not win a Bowl game in 4 years! Be grateful and understand we are moving in the right direction!!!


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Consigliere said:
gacaneaddict said:
Even UGA fans are too ignorant to realize had a playoff been in place in year 2 of Richt there, he would have gotten them to the playoff just like Kirby.
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First, I don't give a chit about UGA fans.

Second, not sure if this part of the post above is serious or a serious attempt to defend Richt. If it is a serious attempt to defend Richt, even if true, that happened _____ years ago. The guy last won the SEC in 2005 which was _____ years ago.

Third, if a coach did a lot in the beginning of their tenure but didn't do nearly as much recently (see below); how is that a good defense of their track record? Just dismiss all of the NOW because _____ years ago he might have made the playoffs if one existed.

It seems that Richt's tenure can be summed up as two different tenures:

First 7 Years:

- Wins Per Season: 10.3
- Conference Wins: 5.7
- Conference Titles: 2
- Top 10 AP Finishes: 5
- BCS Games: 3

Last 8 Years:

- Wins Per Season: 9.1
- Conference Wins: 5.4
- Conference Titles: 0
- Top 10 AP Finishes: 2
- BCS Games: 0


gacaneaddict said:
Miami is coming off probation with 73 scholarship players.
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People are still talking about the cloud, wow.
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I care about ga fans since you know they have commented in this thread. I have a ton of UGA fans as friends, I went to school in Georgia.

That’s where my point is coming from. They are ecstatic that “Kirby did something in year 2 that Richt couldn’t do. When in fact year 2 for both were basically identical in that they both lost 1 regular season game, won SEC, difference is their is a playoff now that wasn’t around during Richts early tenure.

I can guarantee Miami will be a better team with 85 scholarship players than 73.
 
gacaneaddict said:
I care about ga fans since you know they have commented in this thread. I have a ton of UGA fans as friends, I went to school in Georgia.

That’s where my point is coming from. They are ecstatic that “Kirby did something in year 2 that Richt couldn’t do.

I can guarantee Miami will be a better team with 85 scholarship players than 73.
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I don't care about UGA and their fans. No disrespect, both points the "cloud" and playoff in year 2 are atrocious. Do you see why above?
 
ill wait to judge, Richt has never had a roster full of Florida savages like he will the next 3-4 years
 
Consigliere said:
caneaddict said:
ill wait to judge, Richt has never had a roster full of Florida savages like he will the next 3-4 years
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It doesn't take 3-4 years to beat teams with inferior talent.

You realize recruiting wasn't the issue at UGA, right?
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FSU and ND had better talent on paper.
(FSU's frosh outplayed Rosier, btw).
Richt has his QB next year and hopefully some stud CB's.
No more excuses after next year.
 
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It's funny posters think Perry starts next year and suddenly our offense looks like Oklahoma's. Is the playbook suddenly going to have slants...drags routes...multiple types of screen passes? Maybe a hitch or a curl route or some routes combos that actually attack different levels of the field. Richts playbook has a total of 8 plays and 3 formations.
 
NJshoreCane said:
Consigliere said:
caneaddict said:
ill wait to judge, Richt has never had a roster full of Florida savages like he will the next 3-4 years
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It doesn't take 3-4 years to beat teams with inferior talent.

You realize recruiting wasn't the issue at UGA, right?
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FSU and ND had better talent on paper.
Richt has his QB next year and hopefully some stud CB's.
No more excuses after next year.
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A few things:

1. Nothing about his coaching, got it. Not sure of the point of discussing this with you when there is no mention of the obvious coaching issues but continuing on...

2. Richt has lost 7 games during his tenure at Miami:

VT
ND (they were 4-8 last year)
FSU
Clemson
Wisc
Pitt
UNC

- 4 of 7 were to teams with inferior talent (VT, Wisc, UNC and Pitt)
- 2 of 7 were to teams with losing records (ND in 2016 and Pitt in 2017)

3. Does he need 3-4 years to beat teams with inferior talent?
 
GymCane said:
It's funny posters think Perry starts next year and suddenly our offense looks like Oklahoma's. Is the playbook suddenly going to have slants...drags routes...multiple types of screen passes? Maybe a hitch or a curl route or some routes combos that actually attack different levels of the field. Richts playbook has a total of 8 plays and 3 formations.
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Here's where posters fly in saying that our QB keeps us from having those concepts, which in turn would actually make it easier on him, not harder.
 
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