Way too early Draft '17

[INCaneFan]

Idk why you guys think Coley is going to be a First round pick...he's going to be a high round pick but not a first rounder, let's wait for him to go over 800 yards first before considering him a first rounder

if Artie Burns went 1st round so can Coley....

Burns only problem was that at times he was overaggressive. He had the INT's, became a decent tackler, plenty of speed, and all of that with decent size at the position.

Coley so far has been injury plagued, calling his durability into question. He's of average size without the frame to add a bunch more weight. He's not a burner, so basically he's not going to kill it at the combine. His desire to get a ball in traffic or with a big hit on the way is also an issue.

He needs a big year to make everyone forget his abysmal sophomore year. Most importantly he needs to remain healthy while showing the ability to go into traffic and come away with the ball.

 

[dycane]

The QB class is horrific next year. Brad performs as expected; he's as good as gone.

 

[Zbrod95]

The QB class is horrific next year. Brad performs as expected; he's as good as gone.

Yea I believe so too, he has a fighting chance to be first overall next year but if he leaves when Josh Rosen leaves he's got little to no shot at imo

 

[Rellyrell]

I think it's all about this season.... If we put up wins and players perform well, based upon our history of producing pro bowl players, we can see Kaaya, Coley, AQM, and Grace go first round. I believe those are our 1st round caliber talent we have.

 

[Rellyrell]

I think it's all about this season.... If we put up wins and players perform well, based upon our history of producing pro bowl players, we can see Kaaya, Coley, AQM, and Grace go first round. I believe those are our 1st round caliber talent we have.

Sorry, forgot bout Njoku. It depends upon the season, as a whole.

 

[TemplarCane]

Kaaya is smart enough to get an honest opinion from the NFL. If they say "first round" he's gone, especially if there are very few QBs and the teams in the top 10 haven't drafted franchise QBs in the last two or three seasons.


I think the next bet for the 1st round might be Njoku. If he has big season (for a TE) he could go second half of the first round.


Coley can stay healthy and have a big season - like Dorsett's final season - and even then his scouting report would read "was only productive two seasons due to injuries."


AQM has done nothing to warrant being drafted Day 1. Is he a senior or a junior? If he has two seasons left it would behoove him to spend both learning from Coach Kool. He's unlike to grow taller and bigger so he'll need all the technique he can acquire. Shaq Lawson was a dominant, productive, pass rushing DE for multiple seasons at Clemson, and was drafted 19TH.


Grace lacks size, and that will keep him out of Day 1, and probably Day 2.

 

[AUcane]

Idk why you guys think Coley is going to be a First round pick...he's going to be a high round pick but not a first rounder

if corey coleman and will fuller can go 1st round then I think coley can too lol

First off, coley is not a first rounder right now. Second, Coleman is a much better receiver than fuller and coley. Third, fuller was a horrible pick. If coley gets close to 1000 yards and runs a sub 4.5 at the combines, then he has a real shot at the first.

 

[Canedog]

Kaaya gone after 2016 and 2017 is gonna be Richt's greatest test at Miami.

 

[Tad Footeball]

"The money is not important to me. I realize the opportunities. ... My teammates and being here is more important to me right now," he said.

That was Matt Leinart, a kid more than likely from less affluence than Kaaya, in 2005 as he returned to USC despite being projected a top pick back in the days when the rookie salaries weren't slotted. Now that obviously ended up being a financial mistake for Leinart but I can sooooo see Kaaya doing and saying the same- especially under Richt and now that insurance is available.

 

[Golsen82]

5th or 6th? Grace wont go pass day 2. Late 2nd round or early 3rd.

Yall forgetting about Grace. I think if he has another **** good year, he'll be a 1st rd pick too. Im sure someone on this board will mention his weight and why he wont go 1st rd.

I can see a team taking him int the 5th or 6th if he has a good year. Maybe a team thatd try him out at safety

Naw Grace is at the most a 5th.

 

[Golsen82]

Only two LB's got picked in the first round this year. No way Grace is first round.

Grace will test freakishly, not saying he's a guaranteed 1st rounder but he will run a 4.4, jump 36-40, and lift 225 20 times.. with good onfield production watch out

Just lacks the size

 

[Golsen82]

Coley definitely has a good chance to go 1st.

AQM needs to have a monster season to be considered 1st round material.

He just hasn't produced enough yet.

not true, the bears just drafted floyd from Georgia at #9 and he only posted 4 sacks last year. He was drafted off measurements, insane vertical leap, really good 40 yard dash and being 6'6". If muhammad tests well at the combine i have no doubt he can be a 1st rounder and his sack number should be solid this year.

Floyd was also drafted as he fits the Bears scheme. Thats how you draft. Best player available is nonsense

 

[Golsen82]

Idk why you guys think Coley is going to be a First round pick...he's going to be a high round pick but not a first rounder, let's wait for him to go over 800 yards first before considering him a first rounder

if Artie Burns went 1st round so can Coley....

Nope. Coley has injury problems, hes a second early third rounder

 

[58straight]

Kaaya is smart enough to get an honest opinion from the NFL. If they say "first round" he's gone, especially if there are very few QBs and the teams in the top 10 haven't drafted franchise QBs in the last two or three seasons.


I think the next bet for the 1st round might be Njoku. If he has big season (for a TE) he could go second half of the first round.


Coley can stay healthy and have a big season - like Dorsett's final season - and even then his scouting report would read "was only productive two seasons due to injuries."


AQM has done nothing to warrant being drafted Day 1. Is he a senior or a junior? If he has two seasons left it would behoove him to spend both learning from Coach Kool. He's unlike to grow taller and bigger so he'll need all the technique he can acquire. Shaq Lawson was a dominant, productive, pass rushing DE for multiple seasons at Clemson, and was drafted 19TH.


Grace lacks size, and that will keep him out of Day 1, and probably Day 2.

see my example of leonard floyd at UGA he had no where near great production only 4 sacks last year and with slight frame only 240 lbs and he went in the top 10, if muhammad measures well and tests great in his vertical and 40 yd dash he will go first round, its a myth that you need this great body of work to be drafted highly its all about measureables with a lot of scouts they look for traits that cant be taught like explosiveness and length

 

[58straight]

Coley definitely has a good chance to go 1st.

AQM needs to have a monster season to be considered 1st round material.

He just hasn't produced enough yet.

not true, the bears just drafted floyd from Georgia at #9 and he only posted 4 sacks last year. He was drafted off measurements, insane vertical leap, really good 40 yard dash and being 6'6". If muhammad tests well at the combine i have no doubt he can be a 1st rounder and his sack number should be solid this year.

Floyd was also drafted as he fits the Bears scheme. Thats how you draft. Best player available is nonsense

the Giants were high on him as well and they're a 4-3 team, he was the most explosive edge rusher at the combine testing wise that's what got him picked highly

 

[Zbrod95]

Coley definitely has a good chance to go 1st.

AQM needs to have a monster season to be considered 1st round material.

He just hasn't produced enough yet.

not true, the bears just drafted floyd from Georgia at #9 and he only posted 4 sacks last year. He was drafted off measurements, insane vertical leap, really good 40 yard dash and being 6'6". If muhammad tests well at the combine i have no doubt he can be a 1st rounder and his sack number should be solid this year.

Floyd was also drafted as he fits the Bears scheme. Thats how you draft. Best player available is nonsense

the Giants were high on him as well and they're a 4-3 team, he was the most explosive edge rusher at the combine testing wise that's what got him picked highly

You guys realize he did both coverage and pass rush right?? Jordan Jenkins was the pass rush specialist there...there was even talk of him going to the Dolphins before the draft

 

[58straight]

Coley definitely has a good chance to go 1st.

AQM needs to have a monster season to be considered 1st round material.

He just hasn't produced enough yet.

not true, the bears just drafted floyd from Georgia at #9 and he only posted 4 sacks last year. He was drafted off measurements, insane vertical leap, really good 40 yard dash and being 6'6". If muhammad tests well at the combine i have no doubt he can be a 1st rounder and his sack number should be solid this year.

Floyd was also drafted as he fits the Bears scheme. Thats how you draft. Best player available is nonsense

the Giants were high on him as well and they're a 4-3 team, he was the most explosive edge rusher at the combine testing wise that's what got him picked highly

You guys realize he did both coverage and pass rush right?? Jordan Jenkins was the pass rush specialist there...there was even talk of him going to the Dolphins before the draft

the bears arent bringing him in for coverage its great that he can but he will be a pass rushing specialist, what did jenkins test at the combine? floyd tested 4.6 in the 40 which is the range elite pass rushers in previous drafts had von miller was in the 4.5's and khalil mack was in the 4.6's and a really high vertical and broad jump. at 6'4 250 or so if muhammad can get near those numbers he'll have scouts salivating

 

[Zbrod95]

not true, the bears just drafted floyd from Georgia at #9 and he only posted 4 sacks last year. He was drafted off measurements, insane vertical leap, really good 40 yard dash and being 6'6". If muhammad tests well at the combine i have no doubt he can be a 1st rounder and his sack number should be solid this year.

Floyd was also drafted as he fits the Bears scheme. Thats how you draft. Best player available is nonsense

the Giants were high on him as well and they're a 4-3 team, he was the most explosive edge rusher at the combine testing wise that's what got him picked highly

You guys realize he did both coverage and pass rush right?? Jordan Jenkins was the pass rush specialist there...there was even talk of him going to the Dolphins before the draft

the bears arent bringing him in for coverage its great that he can but he will be a pass rushing specialist, what did jenkins test at the combine? floyd tested 4.6 in the 40 which is the range elite pass rushers in previous drafts had von miller was in the 4.5's and khalil mack was in the 4.6's and a really high vertical and broad jump. at 6'4 250 or so if muhammad can get near those numbers he'll have scouts salivating

I doesn't matter what Jordan Jenkins tested dude. Floyd was a multi purpose linebacker at UGA and Jordan Jenkins was their pass rush specialist and the one that set their edge on their D and Leonard still matched Jordan Jenkins for TFL's and sacks go look at their stats...Quan Muhammad has never dropped into coverage dude so how can you compare him to Floyd?? He's more comparable to Noah Spence than Leonard Floyd

 

[58straight]

Floyd was also drafted as he fits the Bears scheme. Thats how you draft. Best player available is nonsense

the Giants were high on him as well and they're a 4-3 team, he was the most explosive edge rusher at the combine testing wise that's what got him picked highly

You guys realize he did both coverage and pass rush right?? Jordan Jenkins was the pass rush specialist there...there was even talk of him going to the Dolphins before the draft

the bears arent bringing him in for coverage its great that he can but he will be a pass rushing specialist, what did jenkins test at the combine? floyd tested 4.6 in the 40 which is the range elite pass rushers in previous drafts had von miller was in the 4.5's and khalil mack was in the 4.6's and a really high vertical and broad jump. at 6'4 250 or so if muhammad can get near those numbers he'll have scouts salivating

I doesn't matter what Jordan Jenkins tested dude. Floyd was a multi purpose linebacker at UGA and Jordan Jenkins was their pass rush specialist and the one that set their edge on their D and Leonard still matched Jordan Jenkins for TFL's and sacks go look at their stats...Quan Muhammad has never dropped into coverage dude so how can you compare him to Floyd?? He's more comparable to Noah Spence than Leonard Floyd

it does matter what he tested, thats my entire point, the scouts and GM's are looking at certain numbers, its funny you mentioned spence because as soon as he ran a 4.8 40 mike mayock dropped him in his rankings and he didnt end up being drafted until the 2nd day. i'm not comparing floyd and muhammad's defensive responsibilities but only stating that if muhammad can test similar to what floyd did at the combine he'll be a top pick regardless if he has gaudy sack numbers which some guys think you need. you can find alot of strong guys that can set the edge in the draft but not many have a high vertical or can run a 4.6 40 yd dash

 

[Zbrod95]

the Giants were high on him as well and they're a 4-3 team, he was the most explosive edge rusher at the combine testing wise that's what got him picked highly

You guys realize he did both coverage and pass rush right?? Jordan Jenkins was the pass rush specialist there...there was even talk of him going to the Dolphins before the draft

the bears arent bringing him in for coverage its great that he can but he will be a pass rushing specialist, what did jenkins test at the combine? floyd tested 4.6 in the 40 which is the range elite pass rushers in previous drafts had von miller was in the 4.5's and khalil mack was in the 4.6's and a really high vertical and broad jump. at 6'4 250 or so if muhammad can get near those numbers he'll have scouts salivating

I doesn't matter what Jordan Jenkins tested dude. Floyd was a multi purpose linebacker at UGA and Jordan Jenkins was their pass rush specialist and the one that set their edge on their D and Leonard still matched Jordan Jenkins for TFL's and sacks go look at their stats...Quan Muhammad has never dropped into coverage dude so how can you compare him to Floyd?? He's more comparable to Noah Spence than Leonard Floyd

it does matter what he tested, thats my entire point, the scouts and GM's are looking at certain numbers, its funny you mentioned spence because as soon as he ran a 4.8 40 mike mayock dropped him in his rankings and he didnt end up being drafted until the 2nd day. i'm not comparing floyd and muhammad's defensive responsibilities but only stating that if muhammad can test similar to what floyd did at the combine he'll be a top pick regardless if he has gaudy sack numbers which some guys think you need. you can find alot of strong guys that can set the edge in the draft but not many have a high vertical or can run a 4.6 40 yd dash

DUDE !! Leonard Floyd wasn't drafted high for his measurables, they all knew he was an athletic freak before the combine. I'll give you a better comparison, Quan Muhammad needs to be productive to get into the first round like Shaq Lawson and do you know why?? Because he's a 4-3 end, not a 3-4 OLB who asked to cover at times. If Shaq went to the combine and worked out the way he worked out but they went back and saw he only had 3.5 sacks like he did in 2014 do you think he goes 19th to the bills??