Warren Sapps tired

[OzarCaneSaw]

FIFY. You forgot to add the check at the end acknowledging the predictable train of apologists that would line up to defend our defenseless defense.

This is all so ****ing humorous.

Progressively get worse year after year defensively? Check


Get our asses reamed by FSU, Duke and VaTech? Check
Not once, but twice get blown out in games where we can WIN THE ****ING COASTAL? Check
Give up more points in those three games than the entire 2001 season (including champ game)? Check
Give up more 500 yard games last season than God knows how many seasons prior to D'OhnoDefense's arrival? Check
Head coach goes absent for three days (with hopes of leaving) just weeks prior to NSD? Check

Sapp and PBuch go public with their displeasure regarding our joke of a DCord? OMFG!!!!!! How could those ******** do this???!? They're gonna cost us this recruiting class!!!?!?????!!

Check!

Have there been any "apologists" on this thread at all? All I see is people saying that the timing was awful for this comment. I don't think anyone disagrees with him, we're just all saying why the fck would you bash your school one week before signing day when we have a legit shot at some big names that could go either way?

I didn't hear any bashing of the school just the defense. All I heard was pride and love for his school and disgust for what has happened to his schools feared and revered defensive reputation. The timing of his remarks won't effect the recruiting any more than the stats of the last 3 years.
The truth will always set you free.

I'm afraid we are not going to see any improvement in the defense in the near future and the thought of watching my team again playing bad football is weighing heavy on me.
But as always
GO CANES!!!!

Retarded comment. No way to prove that at all. We aren't going to get better if we keep losing all of our defensive recruits that's for sure. One right after the other, keep the negativity flowing and we'll be in another hole for 3-4 more years. Some of you guys live to be negative, it's f'ing crazy.

Mwahahahaha!!!! You're god **** right. But that's what you've been arguing. That his comments DO affect recruiting. If it's unprovable one way, it's unprovable the other. What most certainly DOES affect recruiting is performance on the field progressively getting worse on the def side of the ball the past three years and getting absolutely embarrassed by any team with a pulse. When you give up 500+ yards in any meaningful game, RECRUITS NOTICE.

What's this "keep the negativity flowing and we'll be in another hole for 3-4 more years" bull****? The reason you're a fan boy is because you choose to blame Sapp for losing us recruits (even though that's not provable) and now you're blaming negativity on an internet message board. Lulz. SMGDH

 

[Angry Ibis]

Comedy at best. Sapp, who most people dislike, mouths off the week before signing day in a negative way and this is suppose to be good for us how?

Newsflash - most of the board wants a new defense. Having better players helps too. ******* with that even a little before signing day is stupid.

Imagine the scenario where TV does visit, Golden clears up all the academic issues, and says you can be this guy and points to a picture of Sapp and TV says (even to himself) the guy mouthing off that you suck. --- That hurts more than any Genron, LSU theory --- we negative recruit our ******* selves.

Holy ****. We are our own worst enemy.

 

[Miami82]

Comedy at best. Sapp, who most people dislike, mouths off the week before signing day in a negative way and this is suppose to be good for us how?

Newsflash - most of the board wants a new defense. Having better players helps too. ******* with that even a little before signing day is stupid.

Imagine the scenario where TV does visit, Golden clears up all the academic issues, and says you can be this guy and points to a picture of Sapp and TV says (even to himself) the guy mouthing off that you suck. --- That hurts more than any Genron, LSU theory --- we negative recruit our ******* selves.

Holy ****. We are our own worst enemy.

9 pages and that is what you came away with? Plenty of posters stated what an *** Sapp has been, that doesn't make what he said wrong, and doesn't change the fact he is an ***. **** you probably think I'm an ***, but you have liked some of my posts.

 

[McGahee2TheHouse]

Comedy at best. Sapp, who most people dislike, mouths off the week before signing day in a negative way and this is suppose to be good for us how?

Newsflash - most of the board wants a new defense. Having better players helps too. ******* with that even a little before signing day is stupid.

Imagine the scenario where TV does visit, Golden clears up all the academic issues, and says you can be this guy and points to a picture of Sapp and TV says (even to himself) the guy mouthing off that you suck. --- That hurts more than any Genron, LSU theory --- we negative recruit our ******* selves.

Holy ****. We are our own worst enemy.

You really believe TV is that stupid? You really believe that TV would buy Golden's sale pitch about becoming Warren Sapp in a 2 gapping DL?

Lol.

The simplest explanation usually is the correct explanation. Golden's body of work on defense speaks for itself.

 

[OzarCaneSaw]

If one, off the cuff remark by Sapp negates all the positive Dorito/Golden have done on the defense then maybe they just haven't done much good at all.

 

[Angry Ibis]

Comedy at best. Sapp, who most people dislike, mouths off the week before signing day in a negative way and this is suppose to be good for us how?

Newsflash - most of the board wants a new defense. Having better players helps too. ******* with that even a little before signing day is stupid.

Imagine the scenario where TV does visit, Golden clears up all the academic issues, and says you can be this guy and points to a picture of Sapp and TV says (even to himself) the guy mouthing off that you suck. --- That hurts more than any Genron, LSU theory --- we negative recruit our ******* selves.

Holy ****. We are our own worst enemy.

9 pages and that is what you came away with? Plenty of posters stated what an *** Sapp has been, that doesn't make what he said wrong, and doesn't change the fact he is an ***. **** you probably think I'm an ***, but you have liked some of my posts.

You think I read 9 pages. Come on now. I'm sure you are an ***. I'm an ***. McGahee2TheHouse is a huge pain in the ***. But I would still have beers with you anytime. Hopefully soon, I'm thirsty.

I am not disagreeing with Sapp, overall I just don't like the timing and the way he does his business and the potential negative impact on recruiting, and "his" school.

 

[Angry Ibis]

Comedy at best. Sapp, who most people dislike, mouths off the week before signing day in a negative way and this is suppose to be good for us how?

Newsflash - most of the board wants a new defense. Having better players helps too. ******* with that even a little before signing day is stupid.

Imagine the scenario where TV does visit, Golden clears up all the academic issues, and says you can be this guy and points to a picture of Sapp and TV says (even to himself) the guy mouthing off that you suck. --- That hurts more than any Genron, LSU theory --- we negative recruit our ******* selves.

Holy ****. We are our own worst enemy.

You really believe TV is that stupid? You really believe that TV would buy Golden's sale pitch about becoming Warren Sapp in a 2 gapping DL?

Lol.

The simplest explanation usually is the correct explanation. Golden's body of work on defense speaks for itself.

You know what I am talking about. --- Other examples of ****tyness aside, it does not help the pitch, but rather gives something additional for LSU/Genron/FSU/etc. to use with all our recruits and an additional hurdle to overcome.

Not to question a recruit's intelligence, but are we talking about the same guy who "sources" are saying LSU convinced that Miami will be too hard for him to stay eligible -- i.e. - I just called you dumb, but you are so dumb, you didn't know it?

 

[Angry Ibis]

If one, off the cuff remark by Sapp negates all the positive Dorito/Golden have done on the defense then maybe they just haven't done much good at all.

The point, at least I am trying to make, is why do anything negative toward Miami right now if you care so much about the school and the program.

Why?

Superbowl, Forum, Sapp, Selfish, Loud Mouth

Being right and being part of the solution are two separate things.

 

[BucCANEers]

Some of you guys can hate Sapp all you want but he just spoke the truth. Whether or not some of you guys want to take you Cane shades off Sapp was 100% correct. Don’t ever hire someone that you can’t fire. That’s the golden rule.". And remember the article said "But it was when Sapp was asked about the Canes’ defense, that he really went off.". Sapp doesnt have sugar coat it.

 

[OzarCaneSaw]

If one, off the cuff remark by Sapp negates all the positive Dorito/Golden have done on the defense then maybe they just haven't done much good at all.

The point, at least I am trying to make, is why do anything negative toward Miami right now if you care so much about the school and the program.

Why?

Superbowl, Forum, Sapp, Selfish, Loud Mouth

Being right and being part of the solution are two separate things.

The point I'm trying to make is if Sapp DOESN'T speak out against the defense, it doesn't bail out Dorito from his putrid performance as defensive coordinator. THAT is what recruits look at, not some random comment by Warren Sapp.

 

[Angry Ibis]

If one, off the cuff remark by Sapp negates all the positive Dorito/Golden have done on the defense then maybe they just haven't done much good at all.

The point, at least I am trying to make, is why do anything negative toward Miami right now if you care so much about the school and the program.

Why?

Superbowl, Forum, Sapp, Selfish, Loud Mouth

Being right and being part of the solution are two separate things.

The point I'm trying to make is if Sapp DOESN'T speak out against the defense, it doesn't bail out Dorito from his putrid performance as defensive coordinator. THAT is what recruits look at, not some random comment by Warren Sapp.

Yes. Recruits are making decisions based on many factors, least of which is Warren Sapp. I am not saying he is to blame for any recruit going elsewhere, merely that his timing is more likely to hurt Miami than to help.

One week he could have waited, but then the Super Bowl would be over and for the most part the NFL for several months, leaving Sapp with less of a forum.

 

[McGahee2TheHouse]

If one, off the cuff remark by Sapp negates all the positive Dorito/Golden have done on the defense then maybe they just haven't done much good at all.

The point, at least I am trying to make, is why do anything negative toward Miami right now if you care so much about the school and the program.

Why?

Superbowl, Forum, Sapp, Selfish, Loud Mouth

Being right and being part of the solution are two separate things.

The point I'm trying to make is if Sapp DOESN'T speak out against the defense, it doesn't bail out Dorito from his putrid performance as defensive coordinator. THAT is what recruits look at, not some random comment by Warren Sapp.

Yes. Recruits are making decisions based on many factors, least of which is Warren Sapp. I am not saying he is to blame for any recruit going elsewhere, merely that his timing is more likely to hurt Miami than to help.

One week he could have waited, but then the Super Bowl would be over and for the most part the NFL for several months, leaving Sapp with less of a forum.

He was asked a question on a show. You expect him to say "I'll tell you next week"

"More likely to hurt Miami." So you are arguing and placing so much emphasis on a point that isn't even a certainty.

Golden and Dorito's defense has absolutely hurt Miami.

 

[Angry Ibis]

If one, off the cuff remark by Sapp negates all the positive Dorito/Golden have done on the defense then maybe they just haven't done much good at all.

The point, at least I am trying to make, is why do anything negative toward Miami right now if you care so much about the school and the program.

Why?

Superbowl, Forum, Sapp, Selfish, Loud Mouth

Being right and being part of the solution are two separate things.

The point I'm trying to make is if Sapp DOESN'T speak out against the defense, it doesn't bail out Dorito from his putrid performance as defensive coordinator. THAT is what recruits look at, not some random comment by Warren Sapp.

Yes. Recruits are making decisions based on many factors, least of which is Warren Sapp. I am not saying he is to blame for any recruit going elsewhere, merely that his timing is more likely to hurt Miami than to help.

One week he could have waited, but then the Super Bowl would be over and for the most part the NFL for several months, leaving Sapp with less of a forum.

He was asked a question on a show. You expect him to say "I'll tell you next week"

"More likely to hurt Miami." So you are arguing and placing so much emphasis on a point that isn't even a certainty.

Golden and Dorito's defense has absolutely hurt Miami.

Who is arguing? --- No arguing. You and I are grabbing beers with 82 later.

- The defensive product and record in general hurts Miami.
- Negativity for NFL U Alums is also likely to be harmful than helpful.
- Sapp is Sapp. He answered exactly like I would have expected him to

After listening to it again --- I think Sapp handled it fine and it was you ***** that got me rustled.

 

[Southcane]

He speaks the truth.

It's true that flatulence is natural thing and defecation and smelly ***** are normal and facts that can't be denied. But you don't discuss those at the dinner table. Or do you?
A week before signing day? Thanks Sapp for telling us something we don't know.
There is time and place for everything but how dare you say that to a "True Cane" like Sapp?

 

[HITMAN]

Comedy at best. Sapp, who most people dislike, mouths off the week before signing day in a negative way and this is suppose to be good for us how?

Newsflash - most of the board wants a new defense. Having better players helps too. ****ing with that even a little before signing day is stupid.

Imagine the scenario where TV does visit, Golden clears up all the academic issues, and says you can be this guy and points to a picture of Sapp and TV says (even to himself) the guy mouthing off that you suck. --- That hurts more than any Genron, LSU theory --- we negative recruit our ****ing selves.

Holy ****. We are our own worst enemy.

I agree with you man

Just let it go. They're never gonna get it. They think we're supporting Golden when nobody is supporting him or his boy.

They will never realize that what Sapp said was wrong because of its timing.

 

[Gatorhater]

I love Sapp. I hate Al's defense. But Warren has big mouth. I seem to remember him running it at Tommie Frazier in the OB Game and then Tommie lit him up the rest of the game and Sapp let NE win a NC in our friggin Bowl -- same NE we won 3 NCs off of. So, Warren get your read down to THE U and show these kids how to play. We all know the defense stinks -- go help. All we can do is run our mouths -- you can actually do something, so do!

 

[McGahee2TheHouse]

I love Sapp. I hate Al's defense. But Warren has big mouth. I seem to remember him running it at Tommie Frazier in the OB Game and then Tommie lit him up the rest of the game and Sapp let NE win a NC in our friggin Bowl -- same NE we won 3 NCs off of. So, Warren get your read down to THE U and show these kids how to play. We all know the defense stinks -- go help. All we can do is run our mouths -- you can actually do something, so do!

How would the prototypical 3 technique DT help teach the DTs in our scheme?..one who had his worst production when he was asked to 2 gap. Yeah that's what we need Sapp to do.

 

[OzarCaneSaw]

Let's say you buy a car. A used 2001 Dodge Viper GTS. It's a bit worn down, beat up, paint is faded, engine knocks. The last few owners really put it through ****. But you intend to restore it and bring it back to it's former glory. You hire a dude who tells you that he's got the know how and he'll take care of it for you. You give him the go ahead and the next day, he comes barreling up to work on your car in a Mack Truck (license plate DOH-RTO) and proceeds to hammer the **** out of it. It's all mangled on the curb and you are just stunned. While you're standing there in total disbelief, a dog comes walking up and takes a **** on one of the shredded tires.

You start screaming about the dog and how NOW, no one will want to have anything to do with the car because of the dog ****ing on it. That NOW, because of the dog, the car is ruined.

What I'm telling you is the damage has been done. Sapp ****ing on Dorito's defense is like that dog ****ing on your ****ed up car.

 

[Angry Ibis]

Let's say you buy a car. A used 2001 Dodge Viper GTS. It's a bit worn down, beat up, paint is faded, engine knocks. The last few owners really put it through ****. But you intend to restore it and bring it back to it's former glory. You hire a dude who tells you that he's got the know how and he'll take care of it for you. You give him the go ahead and the next day, he comes barreling up to work on your car in a Mack Truck (license plate DOH-RTO) and proceeds to hammer the **** out of it. It's all mangled on the curb and you are just stunned. While you're standing there in total disbelief, a dog comes walking up and takes a **** on one of the shredded tires.

You start screaming about the dog and how NOW, no one will want to have anything to do with the car because of the dog ****ing on it. That NOW, because of the dog, the car is ruined.

What I'm telling you is the damage has been done. Sapp ****ing on Dorito's defense is like that dog ****ing on your ****ed up car.

I think there was a lot more damage to it than we or he realized when he pulled up in the Mack Truck

 

[HITMAN]

That is your outlandish rationalization?

Its more like Golden stole a car (felony) and Sapp stole a Soda (Minor). They're both wrong.