Rumor Warren Ruggiero?

[Brains]

Understatement. Sounds like another complex system. Deep sigh, I'll wait until we actually hire someone before going off the deep end lol.

I will add that WF (under Grobe to the present) has aggressively shirted Freshmen and relies on a model of an experienced starting offense.

It's weird that I am getting nervous, because I called for Ruggiero in the past. I'm just at a point where it has to be a guy who has shown the ability to adapt to personnel. The way to judge that is serious productivity at very different programs.

 

[Shogungts]

I’m shocked that 36.1 ppg isn’t good enough here.

Oh wait I’m not. He’d be the best OC we’ve had in 20 years.

He would also (theoretically) have much better talent at Miami

 

[Hoyacane1620]

Specifically in 2021, Wake Forest scored a program-best 574 points and averaged a school-record 41.0 ppg. That point total ranks 43rd in modern FBS history and the fourth-most in ACC history. Additionally, Wake Forest became just the 20th ACC team in the college football modern era (Post-WWII) to cross over the milestone of 500 points scored in a single season. Individually, the Deacons topped 35 points in a game 12 times during the 2021 campaign. In the College Football Playoff Era, Wake Forest was one of seven teams (2014 Oregon, 2018 Alabama, 2018 Oklahoma, 2019 Alabama, 2019 LSU, 2020 Alabama) to accomplish that feat.

But Wake's QB has been there for years. Took him time to be good in the system

 

[Shogungts]

I will add that WF (under Grobe to the present) has aggressively shirted Freshmen and relies on a model of an experienced starting offense.

It's weird that I am getting nervous, because I called for Ruggiero in the past. I'm just at a point where it has to be a guy who has shown the ability to adapt to personnel. The way to judge that is serious productivity at very different programs.

This is a good point that also potentially scares me; I understand that method works well but are the types of players Miami needs to eventually get to where we want to be, the type that are going to be patient and wait their turn?

 

[crossover22[]_[]]

I probably get to watch wake forest more than anyone here. I live 15 minutes from wake. If we get rugg it would be huge.

 

[CFLCane]

idk

he got hired 2014 and it took him 4 years to "figure it out"

I know the roster is bleh but he's had an nfl qb (first john wolford for his first 4 years, sam hartman for the last 5)


but they scored:

2014: 14 points per game (john wolford)
2015: 17 points per game (john wolford)
2016: 20 points per game (john wolford)
2017: 35 points per game (john wolford - crazy senior year that propelled him to the nfl)
2018: 33 points per game (sam hartman)
2019: 32 poitns per game (sam hartman)
2020: 36 poitns per game (sam hartman)
2021: 41 points per game (sam hartman)
2022: 36 points per game (sam hartman)

no doubt he's done well... but what will WF look like next year without hartman if Ruggiero stays?

Um. Turned out 2 NFL QB's and offenses that averaged 35+ at wake forrest and you framed these as negatives lol?

 

[JHallCanes]

I probably get to watch wake forest more than anyone here. I live 15 minutes from wake. If we get rugg it would be huge.

good to know

Whenever I have seen them the last few years I’ve been impressed but I don’t see them often enough

 

[TemplarCane]

he's put up great numbers and obviously knows the ACC, which is very important, but why hasn't he gotten picked up by someone else once he started having success?

Picked up? He’s been with Clawson for a long time. WF and Bowling Green. I wouldn’t be surprised if he had a number of opportunities offered, and declined. Maybe he didn’t feel they were the right one.

Until possibly now.

We’ll see.

 

[Shogungts]

In the video I posted it mentions that clawson and ruggiero apparently built their offense based on what they had to work with at WF and that came in the form of the mesh system we see now. If he came here there's no guarantee he would be running the same system

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Playing a system that fits your players... what kind of bat**** craziness is this?

 

[crossover22[]_[]]

But Wake's QB has been there for years. Took him time to be good in the system

Wakes offense has been in the top 25 for 3 out of the last 5 years. With nothing but 2 and 3 star players.

The 2 years the fell out they were still top 50.

 

[GrozDozer]

The Slow Mesh: The Evolution Of Wake Forest's Innovative Offense

Simon Carroll dives deep into the birth of the Slow Mesh, Wake Forest's innovative offense that has transformed the fortunes of the Demon Deacons:

thetouchdown.co.uk

First year they implemented it the jumped from 20ppg to 35ppg

 

[U Wouldn’t Understand]

He’s consistently able to achieve more than 8 yards of total offense in a half against Clemson……..just sayin.

 

[crossover22[]_[]]

good to know

Whenever I have seen them the last few years I’ve been impressed but I don’t see them often enough

Think about how hard it is to take nothing but 2 and 3 stars and turn it into a top 5 offense in D1.

They should of beat clemson while we get beat by them by 40 every time.

 

[Salt]

But Wake's QB has been there for years. Took him time to be good in the system

He had a good year prior to Hartman. But you can say " he took time to be good " about most coaches. As long as he comes as a seasoned vet and not for on the job training that should be good enough.

 

[GrozDozer]

idk

he got hired 2014 and it took him 4 years to "figure it out"

I know the roster is bleh but he's had an nfl qb (first john wolford for his first 4 years, sam hartman for the last 5)


but they scored:

2014: 14 points per game (john wolford)
2015: 17 points per game (john wolford)
2016: 20 points per game (john wolford)
2017: 35 points per game (john wolford - crazy senior year that propelled him to the nfl)
2018: 33 points per game (sam hartman)
2019: 32 poitns per game (sam hartman)
2020: 36 poitns per game (sam hartman)
2021: 41 points per game (sam hartman)
2022: 36 points per game (sam hartman)

no doubt he's done well... but what will WF look like next year without hartman if Ruggiero stays?

The Slow Mesh: The Evolution Of Wake Forest's Innovative Offense

Simon Carroll dives deep into the birth of the Slow Mesh, Wake Forest's innovative offense that has transformed the fortunes of the Demon Deacons:

thetouchdown.co.uk

Actually a staffer was leaking Their offense to opponents from 2014-2016. In 2017 he invented slow mesh rpo to combat that and it’s taken off

 

[crossover22[]_[]]

 

[GrozDozer]

The Slow Mesh: The Evolution Of Wake Forest's Innovative Offense

Simon Carroll dives deep into the birth of the Slow Mesh, Wake Forest's innovative offense that has transformed the fortunes of the Demon Deacons:

thetouchdown.co.uk

 

[Empirical Cane]

Post video or we will not believe you.

 

[FromDeeeeep]

idk

he got hired 2014 and it took him 4 years to "figure it out"

I know the roster is bleh but he's had an nfl qb (first john wolford for his first 4 years, sam hartman for the last 5)


but they scored:

2014: 14 points per game (john wolford)
2015: 17 points per game (john wolford)
2016: 20 points per game (john wolford)
2017: 35 points per game (john wolford - crazy senior year that propelled him to the nfl)
2018: 33 points per game (sam hartman)
2019: 32 poitns per game (sam hartman)
2020: 36 poitns per game (sam hartman)
2021: 41 points per game (sam hartman)
2022: 36 points per game (sam hartman)

no doubt he's done well... but what will WF look like next year without hartman if Ruggiero stays?

No.

Wake Forest had to change their entire offense because of the Wakeyleaks scandal.

The scandal broke in Dec 2016.

They created and installed the slow mesh prior to 2017.

Wake Forest Scandal Deepens

The Wake Forest scandal grew deeper Wednesday with the revelation that Louisville acknowledged getting advanced game plan information.

lastwordonsports.com

'We were skunked': Revisiting 'WakeyLeaks', one of CFB's most bizarre scandals

Wake Forest, the smallest Power 5 school in the country, played with one arm tied behind its back after a betrayal from within.

theathletic.com

 

[JHallCanes]

Think about how hard it is to take nothing but 2 and 3 stars and turn it into a top 5 offense in D1.

They should have beat clemson while we get beat by them by 40 every time.

I definitely don’t see any major red flags with him