Video:Coach D was ready to throw down and beat up poster WTH

Wow...had forgotten about that. This fat **** is willing to ride to **** so long as his boyfriend goes with him SMH.
 
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Wow...had forgotten about that. This fat **** is willing to ride to **** so long as his boyfriend goes with him SMH.

Golden Church fanatics (they only care about this excuse of a head coach) loves to bring the "support the kids" spin to justify this abomination, but this argument is annihilated by their own cult leader...

You can just search a little more and you will find several of these "supporting the kids" quotes
 
Wow...had forgotten about that. This fat **** is willing to ride to **** so long as his boyfriend goes with him SMH.

Golden Church fanatics (they only care about this excuse of a head coach) loves to bring the "support the kids" spin to justify this abomination, but this argument is annihilated by their own cult leader...

You can just search a little more and you will find several of these "supporting the kids" quotes

Its like Scientology. They gloss over the part where Hubbard said 'the fastest way to be a millionaire is to invent your own religion'
 
I think Coach D should be suspended one game for not "ignoring the noise". Maybe the FSU game will be a good one to sit out.
 
anyone good at lip reading????

"Get your *** down here and I'll 2-gap contain you to death."

No, but seriously. This is really sad stuff, man. Feel absolutely horrible for some of the guys who are stuck in the middle of this impending divorce. Some of those players have $ on the line and families to feed.
give me a break

Give you a break on which part? You don't think this is a bad situation? You don't think there are guys on the team who come from pretty rough situations and plan to use potential football careers to feed their families?
 
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All these negative scenarios based on one bad half against FAU. Understand the pessimism but if we get by Nebraska it could set up very well for this team.CIncinaati has no defense,FSU isnt that great,and we get Clemson at home. My gut tells me though Nebraska runs at will against us and ruins our season .But the game has not been played yet.
 
Give you a break on which part? You don't think this is a bad situation? You don't think there are guys on the team who come from pretty rough situations and plan to use potential football careers to feed their families?

None of those guys are stuck in the middle of anything. There are plenty of jobs out there if they really need to "feed their families". Plenty of us feed our families without requiring an NFL paycheck.
 
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I think Coach D should be suspended one game for not "ignoring the noise". Maybe the FSU game will be a good one to sit out.

Paul Williams will be calling the plays then

Highly doubt that. I would think Golden would take that over and according to insiders, Golden called plays during VT and UNC last year. So we would see what he really has.
 
If anything, heckle Coley. That dude can't figure out the importance of third downs. I swear, he must think we're a CFL team.
 
Give you a break on which part? You don't think this is a bad situation? You don't think there are guys on the team who come from pretty rough situations and plan to use potential football careers to feed their families?

None of those guys are stuck in the middle of anything. There are plenty of jobs out there if they really need to "feed their families". Plenty of us feed our families without requiring an NFL paycheck.

I completely disagree. Not only are the players stuck in the middle of this mess, some who have the potential to make a good amount of money and come from terrible family situations came here, over other opportunities, to grow into their potential. Because this situation is what it is now, and because many of them look worse (or have already looked worse) than their actual talent level, they're losing potential money. For many of these kids, they came here to eventually get a job playing football. You're suggesting they just "find another job?"

You want guys who might be capable of making millions of dollars playing football to go get a "regular job" just because that's what some of us do? It seems to me you don't know a lot of our players, where they come from, or really care about what happens to people who've prepared for something their whole lives. I'd be upset for a **** computer science guy if his potential was being hindered by a crappy situation.
 
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anyone good at lip reading????

"Get your *** down here and I'll 2-gap contain you to death."

No, but seriously. This is really sad stuff, man. Feel absolutely horrible for some of the guys who are stuck in the middle of this impending divorce. Some of those players have $ on the line and families to feed.
give me a break

Give you a break on which part? You don't think this is a bad situation? You don't think there are guys on the team who come from pretty rough situations and plan to use potential football careers to feed their families?

Which of the potential NFL/CFL players on this roster do you think won't be getting paid because of the staff?

I would assume McCord might be at the top of list. Armbrister came with low expectations and is on an NFL roster. I think guys will get their shots. They might not be afforded the chances that a 3rd and 4th round pick would get if they're UDFA or 6th and 7th round picks.
 
Give you a break on which part? You don't think this is a bad situation? You don't think there are guys on the team who come from pretty rough situations and plan to use potential football careers to feed their families?

None of those guys are stuck in the middle of anything. There are plenty of jobs out there if they really need to "feed their families". Plenty of us feed our families without requiring an NFL paycheck.

I completely disagree. Not only are the players stuck in the middle of this mess, some who have the potential to make a good amount of money and come from terrible family situations came here, over other opportunities, to grow into their potential. Because this situation is what it is now, and because many of them look worse (or have already looked worse) than their actual talent level, they're losing potential money. For many of these kids, they came here to eventually get a job playing football. You're suggesting they just "find another job?"

You want guys who might be capable of making millions of dollars playing football to go get a "regular job" just because that's what some of us do? It seems to me you don't know a lot of our players, where they come from, or really care about what happens to people who've prepared for something their whole lives. I'd be upset for a **** computer science guy if his potential was being hindered by a crappy situation.

These guys live like kings. Free food, free place to live, access to educational resources not available to other students, etc. Let's not pretend that they are grinding it out just hoping to put food on the table someday. They are looking for the millions and the prestige that comes from playing in da league. If it was truly about "feeding their families", would they really spend four years watching their families starve while they play college football?

In any event, players make it to the NFL every single year without being coached by Nick Saban. So, like I said, these guys aren't "stuck". If they are NFL caliber players they will get drafted and get paid.
 
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Give you a break on which part? You don't think this is a bad situation? You don't think there are guys on the team who come from pretty rough situations and plan to use potential football careers to feed their families?

None of those guys are stuck in the middle of anything. There are plenty of jobs out there if they really need to "feed their families". Plenty of us feed our families without requiring an NFL paycheck.

I completely disagree. Not only are the players stuck in the middle of this mess, some who have the potential to make a good amount of money and come from terrible family situations came here, over other opportunities, to grow into their potential. Because this situation is what it is now, and because many of them look worse (or have already looked worse) than their actual talent level, they're losing potential money. For many of these kids, they came here to eventually get a job playing football. You're suggesting they just "find another job?"

You want guys who might be capable of making millions of dollars playing football to go get a "regular job" just because that's what some of us do? It seems to me you don't know a lot of our players, where they come from, or really care about what happens to people who've prepared for something their whole lives. I'd be upset for a **** computer science guy if his potential was being hindered by a crappy situation.

These guys live like kings. Free food, free place to live, access to educational resources not available to other students, etc. Let's not pretend that they are grinding it out just hoping to put food on the table someday. They are looking for the millions and the prestige that comes from playing in da league. If it was truly about "feeding their families", would they really spend four years watching their families starve while they play college football?

In any event, players make it to the NFL every single year without being coached by Nick Saban. So, like I said, these guys aren't "stuck". If they are NFL caliber players they will get drafted and get paid.

Your comments indicate you may have never had much (any?) interaction with a player who comes from real hardship and is expected to support their family. If you knew some of these guys, their potential, and what they put into it, you wouldn't be beating your chest from behind a computer screen downplaying some of the sacrifices they make.

Beyond that, your logic is as bad as our in-game coaching. You comment that "many players make it to the NFL every single year without being coaches by Nick Saban." Firstly, you're missing the point. Players come here because they're sold on the idea that we'll put them in the best position for them to grow into their potential. Regardless of who they're coached by, they're in a situation where they look worse than what they actually are. They can still make it to the NFL, but they'll have done so in a way that isn't optimal to their earning potential or to our program. If you disagree, you're also disagreeing with Coach Golden and many of our coaches. How do I know that? Because that's part of their pitch to recruits.
 
anyone good at lip reading????

"Get your *** down here and I'll 2-gap contain you to death."

No, but seriously. This is really sad stuff, man. Feel absolutely horrible for some of the guys who are stuck in the middle of this impending divorce. Some of those players have $ on the line and families to feed.
give me a break

Give you a break on which part? You don't think this is a bad situation? You don't think there are guys on the team who come from pretty rough situations and plan to use potential football careers to feed their families?

Which of the potential NFL/CFL players on this roster do you think won't be getting paid because of the staff?

I would assume McCord might be at the top of list. Armbrister came with low expectations and is on an NFL roster. I think guys will get their shots. They might not be afforded the chances that a 3rd and 4th round pick would get if they're UDFA or 6th and 7th round picks.

I love these posts every year. Here's a post from a discussion a couple years back:

This guy gets it!

If you want to blame them for poor recruiting on the Defense and part of the offense I can see. I have to give them a break for that too, with the NCAA on their backs for the past 3 years. But blaming the for not being good game day coaches seems kind of funny. I wouldn't draft one of those kids on defense, not one. Maybe some of the freshman will be a little better and the new class looks good but there just isn't much talent on this defense. They can't tackle or cover unless it's someone who is much less talented than them. We have one great player on the whole team and he's out. A few real good players, and maybe some young possibilities, it is what it is.

We have at least 8 future NFL players in our 2-deep. And, only 1 is a True Frosh. If you'd like to make some kind of wager on that, let me know.

Lu, you ALWAYS pull out that ridiculous statement. Who are these so called NFL players? Second, every major college team has a 5-10 "nfl"? Is forston considered and NFL player because he is on a practice squad and get a few reps when players go down? There a few elite players on this team. Duke and coley are potential 1st round picks. You love Erick Flowers but I haven't seen him do anything yet that has me believing he is elite. The are three players on defense that have elite potential, AQM and deon bush. Perryman is a good player and probably will make a good NFL LB but he isn't elite. Tracey Howard is close but he is a pure cover corner, not very stout vs the run.

Notice that all of those players are either freshman or sophomores and 2 didn't play today?

But the lack of elite players is problem number 1. The bigger issue is we have HUGE holes ate certain positions and no depth. We claim we are more talented than every team but renfrow couldn't sniff field at UVA and he is ducking starting! Gaines, Cornelius, highsmith, Rodgers, Shayon, porter, Robinson are all not even at JAG level. They might, might start at lower tier div 1 teams.

That's what we are playing with. So you can talk your scheme bull**** up a tree...man, zone, disguising, stemming, blitzing, bla bla. You are limited in what you can do with the ****ty players we have. Plain and simple. End of story

No matter what, it seems that every year we have a group of posters, and yes I've saved past comments (so I can link if you're interested), who just want to put the onus on the players. Rinse and Repeat. I'm not saying we have the talent we had on last year's roster (even though people were arguing about it then, too), but it's still curious to me that many people can't wrap their heads around the fact that some players just look worse than what they should look.
 
"Get your *** down here and I'll 2-gap contain you to death."

No, but seriously. This is really sad stuff, man. Feel absolutely horrible for some of the guys who are stuck in the middle of this impending divorce. Some of those players have $ on the line and families to feed.
give me a break

Give you a break on which part? You don't think this is a bad situation? You don't think there are guys on the team who come from pretty rough situations and plan to use potential football careers to feed their families?

Which of the potential NFL/CFL players on this roster do you think won't be getting paid because of the staff?

I would assume McCord might be at the top of list. Armbrister came with low expectations and is on an NFL roster. I think guys will get their shots. They might not be afforded the chances that a 3rd and 4th round pick would get if they're UDFA or 6th and 7th round picks.

I love these posts every year. Here's a post from a discussion a couple years back:

This guy gets it!

If you want to blame them for poor recruiting on the Defense and part of the offense I can see. I have to give them a break for that too, with the NCAA on their backs for the past 3 years. But blaming the for not being good game day coaches seems kind of funny. I wouldn't draft one of those kids on defense, not one. Maybe some of the freshman will be a little better and the new class looks good but there just isn't much talent on this defense. They can't tackle or cover unless it's someone who is much less talented than them. We have one great player on the whole team and he's out. A few real good players, and maybe some young possibilities, it is what it is.

We have at least 8 future NFL players in our 2-deep. And, only 1 is a True Frosh. If you'd like to make some kind of wager on that, let me know.

Lu, you ALWAYS pull out that ridiculous statement. Who are these so called NFL players? Second, every major college team has a 5-10 "nfl"? Is forston considered and NFL player because he is on a practice squad and get a few reps when players go down? There a few elite players on this team. Duke and coley are potential 1st round picks. You love Erick Flowers but I haven't seen him do anything yet that has me believing he is elite. The are three players on defense that have elite potential, AQM and deon bush. Perryman is a good player and probably will make a good NFL LB but he isn't elite. Tracey Howard is close but he is a pure cover corner, not very stout vs the run.

Notice that all of those players are either freshman or sophomores and 2 didn't play today?

But the lack of elite players is problem number 1. The bigger issue is we have HUGE holes ate certain positions and no depth. We claim we are more talented than every team but renfrow couldn't sniff field at UVA and he is ducking starting! Gaines, Cornelius, highsmith, Rodgers, Shayon, porter, Robinson are all not even at JAG level. They might, might start at lower tier div 1 teams.

That's what we are playing with. So you can talk your scheme bull**** up a tree...man, zone, disguising, stemming, blitzing, bla bla. You are limited in what you can do with the ****ty players we have. Plain and simple. End of story

No matter what, it seems that every year we have a group of posters, and yes I've saved past comments (so I can link if you're interested), who just want to put the onus on the players. Rinse and Repeat. I'm not saying we have the talent we had on last year's roster (even though people were arguing about it then, too), but it's still curious to me that many people can't wrap their heads around the fact that some players just look worse than what they should look.

I was actually asking who you think is hurt the most by the staff. Who will have tougher a time because they don't look as good as they should? The Miami name will get them looks but they're gonna lose draft status and money because they look worse than they should.
 
Your comments indicate you may have never had much (any?) interaction with a player who comes from real hardship and is expected to support their family. If you knew some of these guys, their potential, and what they put into it, you wouldn't be beating your chest from behind a computer screen downplaying some of the sacrifices they make.

Beyond that, your logic is as bad as our in-game coaching. You comment that "many players make it to the NFL every single year without being coaches by Nick Saban." Firstly, you're missing the point. Players come here because they're sold on the idea that we'll put them in the best position for them to grow into their potential. Regardless of who they're coached by, they're in a situation where they look worse than what they actually are. They can still make it to the NFL, but they'll have done so in a way that isn't optimal to their earning potential or to our program. If you disagree, you're also disagreeing with Coach Golden and many of our coaches. How do I know that? Because that's part of their pitch to recruits.

It's actually the opposite. I have more interaction with that type of kid than you could ever stomach on your own. These kids who you claim are "trying to feed their families" have game systems, DirecTV, cell phones, expensive clothes, etc. They don't have health insurance or a pillow, though, so the government labels them as "poor" and people on the outside believe that they are struggling through college football to one day feed their families.

As for their draft status, NFL scouts see talent way more than they see game results. Scouts know when a kid has talent. They aren't blinded by the lack of coaching.
 
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