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Salt said:
typically adjustments are made in the second half if the game plan is not panning out in the first.. It appeared none were made and they just kept doing more of the same. That just seems odd to me because we have usually been able to make decent second half adjustments on defense. Something just doesn't seem right.
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They were emotionally spent.
 
Man... Y'all really care what UNC thinks? 3 days after the freaking game??? Okay, since y'all care about them so much, what was their reasoning for losing to fspoo? Was it coaching? Maaaan ESD is tomorrow, worry about that.
 
Plenty of schematic issues but you can't give the players a free pass. Name me a scheme where the design is for the LBs to get cut at the 2nd level as often as they did. But again that's on the coaches for deploying 2 LBs with atrocious diagnostic skills (development? evaluations?) and the lateral movement of a refrigerator.
 
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CaneSince4Ever said:
DE's don't always set the edge. Sometimes your CBs have to set the edge in the case of a Cover-2, sometimes your LBs have to set edge in the case of a Cover-3, sometimes your Safety(ies) have to set the edge in the case of a Cover-4, & sometimes your DTs have to set the edge in the case of a Tackle-End stunt.

I've said it several times, and I'll say it again, COVERAGE DICTATES WHAT YOU DO UP FRONT.
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Our DEs rarely set the edge. That is by design. Phillips said in his postgame interview that they were trying to get pressure on Howell rushing upfield. That's what we do every game. We saw this gashing early in the season against Louisville. We don't set an edge. We just rush upfied and down the line on the backside exposing us to cutbacks and counter plays which is exactly what UNC did.

I was watching my Philadelphia Eagles play last Sunday when announcer Daryl Johnston pointed out that Phili DE set the edge before pursuing upfield and how it was textbook DE play.

Diaz needs to reevaluate his scheme. It actually ****es me off even more knowing they saw this all game and never made the adjustments. Even more so that they tried to get pressure on Howell, but rarely got to him.
 
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Lord of Overtown said:
From their webcast:

"The Vippolis podcast offered up a different take on the historic rushing effort by the heels.

In addition to crediting the heels and their tailback duo, they also talked about why Miami got run all over. They didn't think they failed to show up. They didn't think they were not ready to play. They did not blame the players.

They blamed the coaching... And specifically they called out the "high school level game plan" they put together. They said the scheme was to blame.

I kept noticing terrible pursuit angles, so I was blaming the players. But they have a pretty good theory.

The Miami scheme was to get the D line upfield in rushing lanes to pressure and disrupt our offence. So they kept getting too far upfield. The great defensive ends neutralized themselves by getting too far upfield, thereby losing edge contain.

Without an edge, we were able to be patient and let the rest of the line work, then bounce the inside runs outside behind that absent DE.

The linebackers were all caught up inside in their gaps because they correctly diagnosed "inside run". That left Javonte Williams and Michael Carter against defensive backs in space, with wide recievers blocking. Yeah, I wouldn't want to be a Miami DB at that point either."

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I said the same thing on why there were no adjustments made. Miami thought their D line would dominate the game shutting NC down. When it did not there was nothing Miami could do. This has come up before many times on how unprepared Miami is. Its obvious especially against the better coached teams their game plan is just flat out better.
 
Number1CanesFan said:
Our DEs rarely set the edge. Thst is by design. Phillips said in his postgame interview that they were trying to get pressure on Howell. That's what we do every game. We saw this gashing early in the season against Louisville. We don't set an edge. We just rush upfied and down the line on the backside exposing us to cutbacks and counter plays which is exactly what UNC did.

I was watching my Philadelphia Eagles play last Sunday when announcer Daryl Johnston pointed out that Phili DE set the edge before pursuing upfield and how it was textbook DE play.

Diaz needs to reevaluate his scheme. It actually ****es me off even more knowing they saw this all game and never made the adjustments. Even more so thst they tried to get pressure on Howell, but rarely got to him.
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So basically UNC exploited our lack of run defense fundamentals, that's what I figured, and it makes sense.
 
Page305 said:
Man... Y'all really care what UNC thinks? 3 days after the freaking game??? Okay, since y'all care about them so much, what was their reasoning for losing to fspoo? Was it coaching? Maaaan ESD is tomorrow, worry about that.
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It's more weeding out the slurpers who suggest Manny is doing just fine as a coach. There's been consistent criticism from the Miami fanbase in regards to his shortcomings (coaching). You now have outside perspective echoing the same things.

And why should Miami fans have to worry about ESD? We're not the ones that have been recruiting and offering out schollies. This is a football forum for the Hurricanes, and we're talking about a football related topic regarding same team.
 
orange&green84 said:
It's more weeding out the slurpers who suggest Manny is doing just fine as a coach. There's been consistent criticism from the Miami fanbase in regards to his shortcomings (coaching). You now have outside perspective echoing the same things.

And why should Miami fans have to worry about ESD? We're not the ones that have been recruiting and offering out schollies. This is a football forum for the Hurricanes, and we're talking about a football related topic regarding same team.
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Manny is learning. hes got to make changes to the D staff same as he did with the O staff. this D, even with its weaknesses schematically, isn't the same (wasn't last year and same w this year but there is a drop off in talent at LB/CB compared to previous years). idk if **** be a good coach but no coach is getting fired coming off 8-2, a good recruiting class. he does have to win the bowl, get rid of rumph patke baker at a min, and well see if he deserves year 4
 
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orange&green84 said:
It's more weeding out the slurpers who suggest Manny is doing just fine as a coach. There's been consistent criticism from the Miami fanbase in regards to his shortcomings (coaching). You now have outside perspective echoing the same things.

And why should Miami fans have to worry about ESD? We're not the ones that have been recruiting and offering out schollies. This is a football forum for the Hurricanes, and we're talking about a football related topic regarding same team.
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I understand that. I just don't understand the care of what another team thinks, as if they're perfect or something. I mean I would love to hear the advice of Bama's staff, Clems's Staff...etc. but c'mon this is UNC with 3 losses. Who cares what they think. We all know the problem. It was just the players or staff. It was BOTH. We don't need them to tell us any different.
 
haven't we had enough of a sample size from CMD and his staff ? Orange bowl on the line we come out flat as pancake
no adjustments in game... ends keep crashing taking themselves out of play LB's who knows were they were ?
WE are stuck with CMD for 2 more years of same BS.....Blake must step in and say fire your D staff this give s CMD an out or letting go his underachieving buddies Baker, Banda, Patke
new DC should hire his team(assistant coaches) and bring his scheme, only prerequisite base 4-3
kinda like J.Leavitt, we need a hard *** on staff......
 
hoops156 said:
Manny is learning. hes got to make changes to the D staff same as he did with the O staff. this D, even with its weaknesses schematically, isn't the same (wasn't last year and same w this year but there is a drop off in talent at LB/CB compared to previous years). idk if **** be a good coach but no coach is getting fired coming off 8-2, a good recruiting class. he does have to win the bowl, get rid of rumph patke baker at a min, and well see if he deserves year 4
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They weren't going to fire him in year 2 regardless of how he did. My worry is that he somehow wins the bowl game and Blake gives Manny a huge extension.
 
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