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UM (Michigan) in big trouble ?

hoops156 said:
He did well at Stanford and the niners.
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I agree, but SF was 9 years ago. Just hard to overlook his recent success being built on an extremely intricate cheating system. He’d carry a giant microscope no matter where he goes.
 
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The sht that has been going on in cfb for the past 20 years is hilarious.

Thinking about our sanctions and 3 year investigation for nothing that affected the game.
But Michigan is about to make the playoffs because they cheated on a scale that’s never been seen before and even helped others cheat.

El o fckng El!!

They should self impose now.
The fact that he is still coaching is even more ridiculous. Those allegations are beyond a fireable offense.
The school should part ways asap. Any ceo of a company would’ve been asked to step down by their board.

Just like tall these collectives are pay for play, the Michigan issue is the literal definition of LACK OF INSTITUTIONAL CONTROL.


Ohhh wait. It’s not us.
Never mind.
3 game suspension for coach and maybe a few walk on schollies have to go back to paying their own way.

I’m sick and tired of our persecution complex.
But come on now. This would be on ESPN daily if it was us.
247 and on cheeks would have this front page with multiple reporters on campus pitching tents on greentree or under the metro rail.
 
Now people come out and say Stalions paid them a bag and tickets to attend Michigan games and film the opposing sideline.
 
The size of the carpet the ncaa is going to use for Michigan. Makes me think Michigan State could lose football for a few years. Maybe they take out Miami of Ohio or eastern Michigan just to prove a point.

Bad Michigan, here is the slap on your wrist. Sweep 🧹
 
Bender said:
Payment happened via Venmo, so easily traceable.
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I think Michigan was definitely up to something but I don’t believe it’s at the level being sensationalized currently. Even the original WaPo story has holes in it. The claim of a $30,000 scouting budget seems off. You’re going to pay people to go to ten OSU games, eight PSU games, four GA games, and countless other games and scout/record on a $30k budget? Seems small and not realistic. Tickets alone would be several hundred to over $1000 Per game. That doesn’t include paying the individual and covering travel expenses.
 
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umcane4life said:
I think Michigan was definitely up to something but I don’t believe it’s at the level being sensationalized currently. Even the original WaPo story has holes in it. The claim of a $30,000 scouting budget seems off. You’re going to pay people to go to ten OSU games, eight PSU games, four GA games, and countless other games and scout/record on a $30k budget? Seems small and not realistic. Tickets alone would be several hundred to over $1000 Per game. That doesn’t include paying the individual and covering travel expenses.
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They for sure paid stuff under the table. The 30k probably goes back to official university accounts.
 
umcane4life said:
I think Michigan was definitely up to something but I don’t believe it’s at the level being sensationalized currently. Even the original WaPo story has holes in it. The claim of a $30,000 scouting budget seems off. You’re going to pay people to go to ten OSU games, eight PSU games, four GA games, and countless other games and scout/record on a $30k budget? Seems small and not realistic. Tickets alone would be several hundred to over $1000 Per game. That doesn’t include paying the individual and covering travel expenses.
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I haven’t been keeping up super close to this but if the FBI is involved looking in to what this dude was hacking in to at the building that can’t be good
 
Michigan has been a playoff team for the last 2 years in a row now.

All this acting like they’re some Martyr & a victim that the NCAA is out to get is complete fckin Horsesh*t.

They’re nothing but a bunch of cheating frauds who kept losing in big games until they started stealing signals, then all of the sudden became this unbeatable team bulldozing over everybody. Everybody except the teams they couldn’t steal from, UGA & TCU & in those games they got beat because they didn’t have the advantage of literally knowing their opponents plays.

You guys like Michigan because you like that brand of Cro-Magnon ball & you like Harbaugh because he’s a meathead & a lot of you guys sympathize with simplicity & easy to understand style Football. I get it, but trust & believe Michigan is NOT a victim. This isn’t an NCAA witch-hunt, this is a fraudulent Coach & a fraudulent program being caught doing fraudulent sh*t in order to gain an upper hand because they got tired of losing. Up until 2 years ago, Harbaugh’s record against ranked opponents was absolutely horrendous, then all of the sudden he starts winning these games he ALWAYS lost & a lot of yall think that’s a testament to staying patient & waiting 5-6 years before getting results with the slow-build trench theme approach. But it’s not. Without cheating, Harbaugh is no different than the likes of King Corches like Jumbo Fisher, Brian Kelly & others.

They sell this blue-collar lunch-pale image & pretend like they’re the little guys, Michigan is literally one of the top 3 most profitable programs in all of College Football, they’re just behind TAMU & Texas. They’ve ALWAYS played the Bag game heavy in recruiting before NIL became legal, it was well known that Michigan was paying players big time. So this isn’t some poor little guy being picked on, this is a Blueblood team that has a ton of prestige & storied legacy behind their brand & name, who despite having high level talent, unlimited resources & complete backing from their administration still couldn’t get over the hump because Harbaugh simply couldn’t get it done...

UNTIL HE STARTED CHEATING.

They are not sympathetic figures & this is not a case where Miami fans should see them as such, this is one of the teams that has stolen recruits from us for years on the trail getting caught with their hands in the cookie jar. Not to mention, they suckered our HC into believing that their sh*t for brains over-arrogant OC was actually good at his job & hired him here because he was trying to replicate what he & many of you thought was something legitimate. And as a result of that it gave us the worst season we’ve had in **** near 3 decades.

I get it, you hate OH ST & you hate Notre Dame, therefore you somehow think that Michigan being able to cheat is a good thing because it could possibly bring those 2 programs down, trust me I get the logic. But Michigan is not our friend, they’re not a sympatico parallel as Outlaws of CFB like we once were, they’re equally just as snobby & just as sh*tty of program & fans as Oh ST & ND & they look down on us the same way those 2 have for decades. We don’t have the same rivalry with Mich as we do with those others, but I promise you Michigan feels the same way about Miami as Oh ST does & have so historically.

Michigan will probably have the book thrown at them & made an example of because of this & they will DESERVE it 1,000%.
 
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Memnon said:
Michigan has been a playoff team for the last 2 years in a row now.

All this acting like they’re some Martyr & a victim that the NCAA is out to get is complete fckin Horsesh*t.

They’re not but a bunch of cheating frauds who kept losing in big games until they started stealing signals, then all of the sudden became this unbeatable team bulldozing over everybody. Everybody except the teams they couldn’t steal from, UGA & TCU & in those games they got beat because they didn’t have the advantage of literally knowing their opponents plays.

You guys like Michigan because you like that brand of Cro-Magnon ball & you like Harbaugh because he’s a meathead & a lot of you guys sympathize with simplicity & easy to understand style Football. I get it, but trust & believe Michigan is NOT a victim. This isn’t an NCAA witch-hunt, this is a fraudulent Coach & a fraudulent program being caught doing fraudulent sh*t in order to gain an upper hand because they got tired of losing. Up until 2 years ago, Harbaugh’s record against ranked opponents was absolutely horrendous, then all of the sudden he starts winning these games he ALWAYS lost & a lot of yall think that’s a testament to staying patient & waiting 5-6 years before getting results with the slow-build trench theme approach. But it’s not. Without cheating, Harbaugh is no different than the likes of King Corches like Jumbo Fisher, Brian Kelly & others.

They sell this blue-collar lunch-pale image & pretend like they’re the little guys, Michigan is literally one of the top 3 ost profitable programs in all of College Football, they’re just behind TAMU & Texas. They’ve ALWAYS played the Bag game heavy in recruiting before NIL became legal, it was well known that Michigan was paying players big time. So this isn’t some poor little guy being picked on, this is a Blueblood team that has a ton of prestige & storied legacy behind their brand & name, who despite having high level talent, unlimited resources & complete backing from their administration still couldn’t get over the hump because Harbaugh simply couldn’t get it done...

UNTIL HE STARTED CHEATING.

They are not sympathetic figures & this is not a case where Miami fans should see them as such, this is one of the teams that has stolen recruits from us for years on the trail getting caught with their hands in the cookie jar. Not to mention, they suckered our HC into believing that their sh*t for brains over-arrogant OC was actually good at his job & hired him here because he was trying to replicate what he & many of you thought was something legitimate. And as a result of that it gave us the worst season we’ve had in **** near 3 decades.

I get it, you hate OH ST & you hate Notre Dame, therefore you somehow think that Michigan being able to cheat is a good thing because it could possibly bring those 2 programs down, trust me I get the logic. But Michigan is not our friend, they’re not a sympatico parallel as Outlaws of CFB like we once were, they’re equally just as snobby & just as sh*tty of program & fans as Oh ST & ND & they look down on us the same way those 2 have for decades. We don’t have the same rivalry with Mich as we do with those others, but I promise you Michigan feels the same way about Miami as Oh ST does & have so historically.

Michigan will probably have the book thrown at them & made an example of because of this & they will DESERVE it 1,000%.
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Agree with all of this, but I will believe Michigan getting the book thrown at them when I see at and not a moment before.
 
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I think it’s pretty obvious John won’t be back next season.

I think he’s over NCAA/college. And I’m sure the feeling is mutual.
 
does this mean we gonna replace Michigan in big10000 conference after feds/ncaa murder them? same abbreviation even
 
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