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It's MMA, but Usman only showed his wrestling.
That’s all he had to show. It’s like Dr. Tom Nebraska football circa 1996 with Tommy Frazier when they steamrolled the gaytor for the NC. They ran the ball 90% of the time, imposed their will, and no one could do anything about it.
 
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Neither will Usman, if people are "forgetting" him it's because they never cared for or followed him in the first place.

Haters will always have a reason to hate on a guy they don't like because he continues to win.

That's why it's hilarious, people only watch to see him lose & when he doesn't those same people get ****ed & try to diminish his accomplishments lol it's very childish but also typical.
Usman is really an evolved version of Jon Fitch. Very effective winning fighter who wins ugly, is mostly unpopular and will never get a push from the UfC because he does not draw.

He is a smart fighter and did exactly what he should have done, play to his strengths. But it is not fun to watch. And for the record I appreciate BJJ and like to see two submission specialists roll as much as guys who stand and bang.
 
Usman-Masvidal was like one of those GSP fights from the late 2000s, early 2010s. Its not ****, but when you're a champion, you just want to get out without any risks and you just grind that **** out through 5 rounds.

An extended training camp for Jorge wouldn't help him solve the problem you all just witnessed.

Came to say the exact same thing. This type of grind works for and takes GSP to goat status buy Usman is a bum?

Did you really expect a champion to cater to a challengers strengths on 6 days notice? (Not you, the ones calling it trash or bad for the sport.)
 
Came to say the exact same thing. This type of grind works for and takes GSP to goat status buy Usman is a bum?

Did you really expect a champion to cater to a challengers strengths on 6 days notice? (Not you, the ones calling it trash or bad for the sport.)
I expected him to try for a finish at some point.
 
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Came to say the exact same thing. This type of grind works for and takes GSP to goat status buy Usman is a bum?

Did you really expect a champion to cater to a challengers strengths on 6 days notice? (Not you, the ones calling it trash or bad for the sport.)

I said the same thing about GSP when he laid on Dan Hardy for five rounds.

The difference is he was already a star due to entertaining fights on big shows.
 
Fans complain about everything because they're all just a bunch of McGregor fans who want every fight to be a brawl.

"Fans" hate on Jon Jones, hate on Adesanya, hate on Usman, hate on Khabib, hate on Cejudo, it's wash rinse repeat every event, fans are always bìtchin about every fight not being a knock down drag out brawl because they just don't really get the sport & have a lack of appreciation for the technical aspects of martial arts they go beyond Roman coliseum style death matches.

These dudes are literally some of the greatest in the world at what they do & rarely ever off their game, rarely every lose but "fans" just can't stand it because it's not stylistically a bloodbath fight, they hate to see them dominate.

This exactly. “Fans” aren’t really MMA fans; they’re boxing fans. The first M is “mixed.” And the mixed part is what they don’t get. It was pretty obvious what Usman was going to do because that’s the part of his game that he could use to overwhelm and beat Jorge 99 out of 100 times with.

Why would he box Jorge and take the very real chance of losing just to appease fans who hate him anyway when he knew he’d whip him easily doing what he’s way better than Jorge at? If you’re not a fan of elite wrestling then don’t watch Usman fights.
 
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I said the same thing about GSP when he laid on Dan Hardy for five rounds.

The difference is he was already a star due to entertaining fights on big shows.

I remember Matt Hughes and Sean sherk tkos but mostly it was always lots of wrestling lol
 
Why would he box Jorge and take the very real chance of losing just to appease fans who hate him anyway when he knew he’d whip him easily doing what he’s way better than Jorge at?

Nobody was yelling for Khabib to box Conor and Poirier.

I like fights with violence, whether it’s on the ground or the feet. Winning on “Octagon control” is boring whether you’ve been a fan for 25 years or 25 minutes.

There is a reason the sport made a big leap after the “lay-and-pray” era ended. And it wasn’t because the fighters were becoming less skilled.
 
You and I usually share similar takes, but here's one where we're on different planets.

In team sports like football, basketball, and baseball......winning is all that matters. No apologies need to be made.

Boxing and UFC, how you win matters. These guys all care about being the best and being in the discussion for GOAT. There's a reason guys like Mayweather and Usman are hated and it has absolutely nothing to do with "winning". It's absolutely unwatchable garbage and an exploitation of the highly subjective "points" system.
How they win matters to you. It doesn’t matter to them.

Good thing about MMA is guys don’t typically stay on top for prolonged periods because it’s such a grind. So Usman will meet his match soon enough, and you guys can hate on the next champ for not taking enough risks with his money.
 
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How they win matters to you. It doesn’t matter to them.

Good thing about MMA is guys don’t typically stay on top for prolonged periods because it’s such a grind. So Usman will meet his match soon enough, and you guys can hate on the next champ for not taking enough risks with his money.


I would take a wrestling grind win over masvidal vs matt serra knocking me out any day of the week.
 
Nobody was yelling for Khabib to box Conor and Poirier.

I like fights with violence, whether it’s on the ground or the feet. Winning on “Octagon control” is boring whether you’ve been a fan for 25 years or 25 minutes.

There is a reason the sport made a big leap after the “lay-and-pray” era ended. And it wasn’t because the fighters were becoming less skilled.

I understand you didn’t like it. Lots of people didn’t like how Nebraska won either. But they weren’t going to suddenly mix in some Air Raid just to make you happy while they lose.

Usman’s job is to win. If you guys hate his fights then quit stealing them on hacked streams. If he starts costing White money, then White will find a way to vanquish him. Usman only cares about winning, and so far his methods have been foolproof. And White only cares about money.
 
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If that was his only job, he’d get paid more.

You can win boring. But once you take a couple losses you are out of the UFC like Jake Shields and Jon Fitch.
You're making silly arguments just because you don't like Usman's style. In your mind, Usman should abandon what works for him flawlessly so far just to be more entertaining and potentially start losing. He's probably going to make more money as an undefeated champ than he would if he decides to abandon what works for him and gets knocked out 3 times in a row in Tough Man Contest slugfests.

I have a feeling the Shields story goes beyond his style. Shields was boring, not all that good, and I think he was flirting with another promotion, which is a much quicker way to get on White's bad side than being an undefeated champion, who overwhelms opponents with his wrestling. Fitch has been in and out of the UFC forever, and was never at Usman's level.
 
I'm not sure what kind of outcome you expected from Usman v. Masvidal. I mean there were several posters - myself included - that told you Usman was going to grind it out and thats what he did.

Moving forward, Gil Burns fight for Usman is gotta be up next. For Masvidal...it just opens him up for some better stylistic fights.
 
This exactly. “Fans” aren’t really MMA fans; they’re boxing fans. The first M is “mixed.” And the mixed part is what they don’t get. It was pretty obvious what Usman was going to do because that’s the part of his game that he could use to overwhelm and beat Jorge 99 out of 100 times with.

Why would he box Jorge and take the very real chance of losing just to appease fans who hate him anyway when he knew he’d whip him easily doing what he’s way better than Jorge at? If you’re not a fan of elite wrestling then don’t watch Usman fights.
Not asking him to stand and trade with Masvidal.

Am asking him to try and advance his position from stalling him against the cage. If you're such an elite wrestler, get him on the ground and GnP him.

Instead we were treated to 25 minutes of shoulder shrugs and foot stomps.

Like I said, it is what it is, but Usman's the only loser after last night. Dana White won't be offering him more money as the casual fans think he's boring af.
 
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