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tcgrad1014 said:
A problem Manny has is that Canes fans have unfortunately become experts at spotting **** coach tendencies. He checks a bunch of the boxes and its only been 4 games. We also know what happens next: it goes from players ****ed off about playing like garbage (and I'm skeptical many of them even care at this point) to accepting mediocrity.

Manny isn't any worse than the 4 ****** coaches that preceded him. He's another in the line. Different personality, same failure. It's obvious.
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Big facts
 
Blaming the players for what happened Saturday is like blaming your kids for you taking a wrong turn and ending up in Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan.

And penalties were the problem? Hello no. They were A problem, but not THE problem. ****, I'd say the refs looking the other way on targeting, holding and offsides were a bigger problem than the penalties we actually committed. The real problem on Saturday was Dan Enos calling the worst game I have probably ever seen from a UM OC. That's including every Pat Nix and Mark Richt game. Yes, it was that freaking bad.
 
pacusmc said:
I was on campus Sunday. A lot of tension in that building. A lot off ****ed of people walking around.
Way worse than after the unc loss.
Will it change anything? Idk. But I didn’t see any dancing or sunshine out there.
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I was around some of the staff Monday. Can confirm.

Also, Play Action Penos smells different when he's awake...I tried to tell him that.
 
The Svengali said:
Man, I really want to like Manny...I truly do. I want him to be a young dabo, but everytime he talks he becomes less believable and inspires even less confidence.

Starting to sound a lot like Golden and the team looks like a golden team (soft and uninspired). Publicly blaming the players after what we all saw is unfathomable.

The mistakes etc and lack of discipline are coaching issues, sir! 12-13 penalties is a coaching issue! ******** up in practice, but not holding the players accountable is a coaching issue!!

Too much coach speak from the guy, while putting out an inferior product. He’s really starting to grate on me
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I'll ask you like I've asked others, how does accountability work? What do you do that is considered holding players accountable?

People keep saying that, but nobody has any idea what it actually looks like. "Holding players accountable" is just some magical phrase people use for "having success".
 
zx7oppa said:
Even Jimmy J and Dabo had issues in their first years, let's give Manny 2 years to mold his players.
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This is mannys fourth year with the defense! If he hasn’t molded them by now, then he never will. He’s a corch and it’s time to accept it. Hopefully him and James will be fired together and we might luck out in a real AD/coach. Smh
 
NorthEastCane said:
Baloney!!!

When can you remember from 1983 through 2001 a penalty costing us a game? During that time, how often in a key situation did you see a Hurricane crack mentally and do something stupid? It rarely happened. JJ pushed them to the edge. If you want them to play with that "dog in them" then you have to be willing to live with the consequences of that aggression. Yet past teams were disciplined unlike recent teams. Unfortunately, the following has become a poster on the wall rather than something they lived.

"Discipline is a lot more than saying 'Don't throw your hands in the air when you score a touchdown.' Discipline is when it's 110 degrees in the Orange Bowl, no breeze, fourth quarter, a minute and a half left to play, fourth and three for the other team, you're dead tired, they come to the line and that opposing QB gives up a hard count: 'Hut Hut'. And you don't jump offsides because you're disciplined mentally and physically".

Michael Irvin
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You see the numbers, right in front of you and you deny them while spewing some rah rah quote having nothing to do with the subject.


Penalties have been an issue here for as long as I can remember, regardless of who the coach is.

We have just had so many superior teams they've been able to overcome it. That's why I said we would out talent teams to win despite them.
 
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NorthEastCane said:
Baloney!!!

"Discipline is a lot more than saying 'Don't throw your hands in the air when you score a touchdown.' Discipline is when it's 110 degrees in the Orange Bowl, no breeze, fourth quarter, a minute and a half left to play, fourth and three for the other team, you're dead tired, they come to the line and that opposing QB gives up a hard count: 'Hut Hut'. And you don't jump offsides because you're disciplined mentally and physically".

Michael Irvin
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Hut! Hut! HUUUUUUUT! Now that's discipline!!
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tcgrad1014 said:
A problem Manny has is that Canes fans have unfortunately become experts at spotting **** coach tendencies. He checks a bunch of the boxes and its only been 4 games. We also know what happens next: it goes from players ****ed off about playing like garbage (and I'm skeptical many of them even care at this point) to accepting mediocrity.

Manny isn't any worse than the 4 ****** coaches that preceded him. He's another in the line. Different personality, same failure. It's obvious.
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People don’t wanna hear this, but this is the god **** truth.
 
ShadowSpring said:
I tend to think a big part of saturdays performance was complacency and attitude. The team did not play the game with intensity and drive. Perhaps they thought it would be easy?

Lets see what happens in 10 days.
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This.

In fact.. as the Canes came out of the tunnel onto the field, I turned to guy next to me and said “I don’t like how we look coming on the field...”. Something seemed off.

Attitude and complacency.

All deficiencies aside (coaching, average line play, penalties)...I firmly believe we roll both Virginias next two games.
 
TOcane said:
Not really if you listen to most of his interviews he tells it like it is. As much grief as this board gives him, they fail to realize that this is the first coach we have had in a while who is not afraid to make changes if something is not working. He has done this in every area we complained about. I get it the results have not been what we want but he is working to get this team where it needs to be.
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Lmao what?
We aren’t scoring any points, did he make Enos change the offense?

We aren’t getting any pressure on the QB, did he make Baker change his fronts up?

Baxa is missing every other FG, has he tried anybody else?

There is absolutely ZERO evidence Manny will make changes. He lied about what kind of offense and defense he would run and hasn’t changed it yet
 
Go Canes!! said:
You see the numbers, right in front of you and you deny them while spewing some rah rah quote having nothing to do with the subject.


Penalties have been an issue here for as long as I can remember, regardless of who the coach is.

We have just had so many superior teams they've been able to overcome it. That's why I said we would out talent teams to win despite them.
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It has everything to do with the subject. Lack of mental discipline is the reason why there are so many stupid penalties. Evidently you don't get that. That's why you have no clue what the problem is or how to stop it.

Don't worry. I won't interrupt your rant any more.
 
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cane_boi said:
Cool. Instead of 13 penalties they'll have 10 penalties next game.
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They'll come out flat as supermodels ***.

Usually after a bye week, teams will bust out new formations, a trick play or two -- something that they cooked up in the lab with the extra days.

Nope. We'll come out exactly the same as we did this week, and the week before.
 
Mr. Dynasty1 said:
During a team meeting on Sunday, the UM coaching staff held the Hurricanes to that type of high standard.

9-23-19 Manny Diaz

Joe and Zach are joined by Manny Diaz and talk about the CMU game
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“We had a team meeting on Sunday and reviewed the film and its as a tough truth meeting,” Manny Diaz said on The Joe Rose Show on 560 The Joe. “We didn’t play very well on Saturday and we explored some of the reasons why. It is like when your children take a test and they pass the test, but they don’t get the grade that they wanted. You get to go back and explore some of the reasons why it happened. Let’s look in the mirror and find out who we really are.”

“There are penalties of great strain, effort, and aggression—like the penalty on Corey Gaynor on the sideline—if all our penalties were like that, then you’d live with it as a coach,” Diaz said. “But then you have selfish penalties

Diaz admitted that he saw poor habits during last week’s practice that carried into the Central Michigan game

“There will be competition at different spots across the team. We don’t want guys to feel comfortable, especially off of a performance like that


Take from it what you will.
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Manny got his talk game on point
lets see if his actions and results back it up
 
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