Thoughts on the Nebraska loss and the state of the program

-At the end of the day, the head guy is responsible. And what I see is a lack of confidence. For me, one play crystallizes everything. In the fourth quarter, Nebraska ran a pick play in the red zone and got flagged for PI. The confident decision would have been to accept the penalty, take the third and long and potentially force a long field goal. Instead, we declined the penalty, and the kicker barely bounced in a short FG that made it a two-score game.

Here's why Golden is a failure and I have lost all confidence in him. He's scared. He coaches scared. He nuetered the offense at Louisville. Our defense plays not to lose. We play to not give up the big play and pray that we get a lucky break on first or second down to force a team into a third and long and get off the field. That's our philosphy. He's a smart man that refuses to take any risk.

One thing Canes have NEVER been is scared! He doesn't fit, that's the bottom line. X's and O's blah blah, there is an udercurrent of fear in everything he does. I'm done.
 
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What was up with denzel? Did they just make a point to block him and not have him get around the ball. If he quits on the coaches we are done.
 
- The Louisville loss and the Nebraska loss were really two sides of the same coin. Louisville stacked the box and dared us to adjust. That's a risky strategy against a team with Phillip Dorsett, but they wanted to dictate the action. We failed to adjust, and we lost. Nebraska ran its two top players into the ground and dared us to stop them. We failed to adjust, and we lost.

The easy thing to do is blame the coordinators-- Coley for Louisville, D'Onofrio for Nebraska. But I know that Coley has a borderline irrational confidence in Kaaya. I have also been told that Coach Golden spends way more time in the offensive meetings than the defensive meetings due to his trust in Coach D and their shared defensive philosophies.

At the end of the day, the head guy is responsible. And what I see is a lack of confidence. For me, one play crystallizes everything. In the fourth quarter, Nebraska ran a pick play in the red zone and got flagged for PI. The confident decision would have been to accept the penalty, take the third and long and potentially force a long field goal. Instead, we declined the penalty, and the kicker barely bounced in a short FG that made it a two-score game.

I have always been patient with head coaches. I grew up in the Butch era and remember a large section of the fan base (including the early message boards) giving up on him before his plan fully came to fruition. But this is a results business. Three years in, the results say that we cannot accomplish the most basic goal of a well-prepared team: stopping the run. When Notre Dame bludgeoned us, we blamed it on youth. When Duke and Virginia Tech killed our season, we were on the cusp but not there yet. Now it's year four, and nothing has changed but the names of the players getting thrown under the bus. The results speak for themselves.

I don't see any coaching changes happening before the end of the season. He will be judged on the end product. I will be at every home game cheering like crazy for a miracle turnaround. But the Golden era is trending in the direction of the Shannon era. Year One was a rebuild. Year Two was when the young players showed signs of life. Year Three brought a brief moment of national relevance followed by a late-season collapse and a dispiriting bowl loss in Orlando. Year Four was when the team quit. Let's see how it plays out.

- One of the saddest things about the loss is that we aren't talking about how special Brad Kaaya is. One-third of the way through the season, he is leading the ACC in passing yards, tied for the lead in passing TDs, and on pace to set the UM single-season touchdown record. His poise and accuracy on the road was astounding. No matter what happens with the coaches, Kaaya gives all UM fans a reason to keep the faith.

- In terms of the players, the most disappointing thing for me has been the safety play. In spring and August camp, these guys were setting tone by playing fast and physical. However, they have started the season by missing tackles, taking horrible angles and at times looking just as slow as Highsmith and Rodgers. This unit needs to make a huge leap if this team wants to make any noise in the ACC.

See you at the Duke game.

They aren't going to get better, they can't get better. We've rotated a lot of names through that position under Goldofrio and they've all looked like crap. It's not the players, it's the defense. I'm afraid this is just what safeties are going to look like under these coaches and I won't expect any different until new coaching arrives. It doesn't stand to reason that we've completely whiffed on like the last 8 safeties that we've recruited.
^ This x1 million. I have a hard time believing this particular group of safeties is simply this bad. They are talented athletes who were heavily recruited by other schools. It is blatantly obvious that they are poorly coached.
 
while the records may be similar between Randy and F/A/G the product on the field right now is the worst I have ever seen in nearly 30 years of being a CANE fan

we are absolutely pathetic. I told all the mouth breathers on this site that this was a throw away season before it even started. we came into the season with an exposed dead man walking HC.

in 2010, there was reasonable hope for a good team. we had actually beat some decent teams.

this staff gets completely embarrassed by any decent (not even good) team. F/A/G needs to be fired NOW. every passing week does more damage.
 
Yeah, it is really the case of over coaching... You can tell the players are thinking and not just playing. The crazy part about Ag not in the defensive mtgs as much is that the Defensive side is where a lot of the team issues reside. I think that is where more of the players are un happy and I think that is manifesting itself on the field. I do not see a ton of guys that look like they are buying in to what we are teaching. I am a believer than any defense/offense can work if you have the right players and everyone buys in. I think we have the players, I don't and have not seen the buy in. This next game will truly tell us if the Coaches have lost the team or not. If we lay down against Duke, I think you let the staff go right then and there.. don't even let him get to the locker room! Bring in someone to finish the year out.... And hit the coaching search early and hard for once.... No more sitting back and waiting crap... Target the guy you want and go get him... I dont care who it is... The Patriots did it about 15 years ago and I am pretty sure it worked out for them....
 
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D$,

I told Franchise that Brad Kaaya could be the best QB we've ever had at UM. He brings the intelligence of Kosar and Dorsey and a very good arm. I hope these retards don't squander him.

He's so good I hope he doesn't save these dopey corches.

Honestly scares me a little. But, we will face enough competent coaching to completely exploit the defense just like last season. Nebraska was just the beginning of our D being torn apart
 
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I told Franchise that Brad Kaaya could be the best QB we've ever had at UM. He brings the intelligence of Kosar and Dorsey and a very good arm. I hope these retards don't squander him.

He's so good I hope he doesn't save these dopey corches.

Honestly scares me a little. But, we will face enough competent coaching to completely exploit the defense just like last season. Nebraska was just the beginning of our D being torn apart

I agree. Add to that as good as Kaaya can be, he still has to overcome James Coley, and that might be hard to do.
 
Shannon was a 8th month aborted fetus as a coach, but his teams went into Tallahassee and beat FSU on Labor Day night, they went into Death Valley and beat Clemson. Golden would **** his pants in Death Valley, even against an average Clemson team.
 
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Defense needs to be more aggressive, and i was absolutely wrong on Abdullah earlier this year, he was The best player on the field in that game.

Gregory was 2nd, then Duke and Kaaya.
 
People always say about wanting butch out. Butch still won 9 games every year except his 5-6 season and he was 4-0 in bowls. he was following a coach who won multiple NC's, he had real sanctions, and was a first time HC who was figuring it out. Look how many games UNC won before he got there. they were lucky to win 5 games prior to his arrival. Lastly, look at his coaching tree in college and nfl.
 
- The Louisville loss and the Nebraska loss were really two sides of the same coin. Louisville stacked the box and dared us to adjust. That's a risky strategy against a team with Phillip Dorsett, but they wanted to dictate the action. We failed to adjust, and we lost. Nebraska ran its two top players into the ground and dared us to stop them. We failed to adjust, and we lost.

The easy thing to do is blame the coordinators-- Coley for Louisville, D'Onofrio for Nebraska. But I know that Coley has a borderline irrational confidence in Kaaya. I have also been told that Coach Golden spends way more time in the offensive meetings than the defensive meetings due to his trust in Coach D and their shared defensive philosophies.

At the end of the day, the head guy is responsible. And what I see is a lack of confidence. For me, one play crystallizes everything. In the fourth quarter, Nebraska ran a pick play in the red zone and got flagged for PI. The confident decision would have been to accept the penalty, take the third and long and potentially force a long field goal. Instead, we declined the penalty, and the kicker barely bounced in a short FG that made it a two-score game.

I have always been patient with head coaches. I grew up in the Butch era and remember a large section of the fan base (including the early message boards) giving up on him before his plan fully came to fruition. But this is a results business. Three years in, the results say that we cannot accomplish the most basic goal of a well-prepared team: stopping the run. When Notre Dame bludgeoned us, we blamed it on youth. When Duke and Virginia Tech killed our season, we were on the cusp but not there yet. Now it's year four, and nothing has changed but the names of the players getting thrown under the bus. The results speak for themselves.

I don't see any coaching changes happening before the end of the season. He will be judged on the end product. I will be at every home game cheering like crazy for a miracle turnaround. But the Golden era is trending in the direction of the Shannon era. Year One was a rebuild. Year Two was when the young players showed signs of life. Year Three brought a brief moment of national relevance followed by a late-season collapse and a dispiriting bowl loss in Orlando. Year Four was when the team quit. Let's see how it plays out.

- One of the saddest things about the loss is that we aren't talking about how special Brad Kaaya is. One-third of the way through the season, he is leading the ACC in passing yards, tied for the lead in passing TDs, and on pace to set the UM single-season touchdown record. His poise and accuracy on the road was astounding. No matter what happens with the coaches, Kaaya gives all UM fans a reason to keep the faith.

- In terms of the players, the most disappointing thing for me has been the safety play. In spring and August camp, these guys were setting tone by playing fast and physical. However, they have started the season by missing tackles, taking horrible angles and at times looking just as slow as Highsmith and Rodgers. This unit needs to make a huge leap if this team wants to make any noise in the ACC.

See you at the Duke game.

They aren't going to get better, they can't get better. We've rotated a lot of names through that position under Goldofrio and they've all looked like crap. It's not the players, it's the defense. I'm afraid this is just what safeties are going to look like under these coaches and I won't expect any different until new coaching arrives. It doesn't stand to reason that we've completely whiffed on like the last 8 safeties that we've recruited.
^ This x1 million. I have a hard time believing this particular group of safeties is simply this bad. They are talented athletes who were heavily recruited by other schools. It is blatantly obvious that they are poorly coached.

This is a real let down. I'm still willing to give Hurlie a chance but I really thought him moving to that side of the ball was gonna translate to a major improvement in safety play.
 
I don't see this team quitting. I really don't. I think the players quitting in 09 had a lot to do with jacory getting hurt against UVA.

We've got a few juniors and seniors who have a lot of money to lose if they quit which wasn't the case in 09 so I hope if nothing else they play for themselves rather than the coaches or fans.

Beat Duke and just continue to get better as the season goes on in spite of the coaching staff. That's all you can hope for.
 
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- One of the saddest things about the loss is that we aren't talking about how special Brad Kaaya is. One-third of the way through the season, he is leading the ACC in passing yards, tied for the lead in passing TDs, and on pace to set the UM single-season touchdown record. His poise and accuracy on the road was astounding. No matter what happens with the coaches, Kaaya gives all UM fans a reason to keep the faith.

This is the most underrated ONLY bright from this season. Kaaya is killing it for being a True Frosh despite the occasional True Frosh mistakes. The Offense played well enough to win Saturday night.
 
If it is not in the cards to fire Golden mid season then I cant root against the Canes. If we had some kind of source that said firing his a$$ mid year was DEF on the table I would go sit in the Duke section myself and cheer. (not really but you get my point)

I will root for the kids. Guys like Duke/Kaaya/Walford/Thurston who go out there game after game and try their damnest to get this back on track. But because of the coaching their efforts go for nothing. Esp Thurston. My god. This kid really has been balling out for us.

I root for them to finish this season with SOME pride and dignity. There is no dignity going 5-6 and getting blasted 56-7 by FSU at home. I wouldnt wish that on these kids no matter how much I hate Golden right now. Lets hope we can salvage the season somehow.
 
That is not a great Nebraska team. I watched the entire McNeese St game and they were very fortunate to win.

Agreed. They are mediocre. There is a pronounced talent difference between Miami and Nebraska which will become obvious at the NFL level.

Yes. Same with Louisville. I watched that game and was stunned. Louisville was 1,000,000 times worse than I expected and we STILL got curb stomped. Then Lou promptly goes out and loses to Virginia who was riding a 10 game losing streak against d1 opponents. Both Louisville and Neb are ok teams who would get their balls stomped by real top 5 type teams. Yet they manhandled us. This is the most damning thing of all. Al wants us to believe that "that's a good team that we lost to over there." They're not Al, they're not.
 
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One of the saddest things about this entire debacle is that UM is completely irrelevant on the national stage. All the national guys want to talk about is Michigan and Brady Hoke and how Michigan should never be this bad. No mention of Miami when Folden has been a much bigger failure especially in big games.

Michigan is actually going to FIRE their head coach. The University of Miami is gonna keep theirs. Michigan will spend money going after Les Miles or Jim Harbaugh, Miami won't, unfortunately.....
 
For the first time in my life I have zero expectations of a CANES win the rest of this season. Will there be some wins? I think so, but I can't point them out at the moment. I think Miami loses to Duke this weekend, and if that happens Golden needs to be fired immediately, a la Kiffen, and not allowed on the bus back to campus.

sigh
 
"I ain't scared of you" needs to be the program motto again. We need a coach that makes the Hurricanes the Hurricanes again.
 
I agree with everything you said. However, for the people wishing UM would lose the rest of the way are idiots. I am no fan of our coaches, but I would never want the young men on our roster to continue failing.
 
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