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RF-4CCane said:
Too much like RUTS in BCS. Screwed us in 2000.
Would ***** very good ball control teams and reward those with Mercer level OOC games.
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Yup. Also teams that want to get backup QB's in for a drive here or there, or other freshmen types some real work.

Use an analytic system like SP+ which adjusts for opponent, and garbage time
 
DubCaliCane said:
They aren’t expanding to 20. This is just over-asking so they can “come down” to 16.

You can complain about the expanded playoff all you want, but the only problem with the current one is the seeding and they’re fixing that.

The bubble team debates are awesome. Home playoff games are awesome. Teams like ASU taking Texas to the wire (and honestly getting screwed by officiating late in the game) is awesome.

The transfer portal and the playoff era have made college football immensely more dynamic and enjoyable, but keep pining for the days where the Reliaquest Bowl mattered and you sat at home watching the same 4 teams compete for a National Championship.

The 12 team playoff worked. The best team won the National Championship and there was a helluva lot more drama and chaos for the rest of us.

I think 12 is perfect with reseeding, and don’t WANT an expansion beyond that. But the 4 team playoff was nowhere near as electric as the 12 team.
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Preach brother...preach!!!!!
 
Braduhley said:
At this rate the championship game is going to be played the week before March madness starts
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Netflix is pushing more for the releasing big shows in chapters to better analyze and take advantage of viewership spikes

Im waiting for the NFL to incorporate mid season finales
 
Memnon said:
They lost their QB, they weren't one of the 4 best teams in the country at that point.

That's not a justification to expand to 12 teams.
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They lost their qb. But were undefeated. They deserved to be in a CFP. I mean isn’t your entire argument that the regular season matters? Well they went undefeated… if they don’t belong in any argument about the regular season mattering is irrelevant if a committee can just determine for you that a single injury eliminated you. I much rather have a playoff with games determine that than a committee…

16 max works with 4 major conferences. I’d just keep it at 12. But I’d just change it to make it a conference playoff and then a smaller 4 or even 6 team national playoff.

Like what if B1G and SEC do 4 team playoff while ACC/B12 do normal 2 team championship. Then the 4 winners are in playoff against each other with SEC/B1G on oppposite sides of bracket. That’d be a better 12 team playoff format imo. And go to 10 conference games. 1 P4 Non conference for everyone. 1 G5 Non Con everyone. And the bowl games are all moved to week 0/1 instead of at end of season.
 
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I’ve always been a fan of the NBA model. They should do 16 teams, best of 7 each round so we can really find out who is the best team.
 
Anything beyond 12 is enough. You need clear parameters on the seeding to rules before expanding.
 
Calinative said:
They lost their qb. But were undefeated. They deserved to be in a CFP. I mean isn’t your entire argument that the regular season matters? Well they went undefeated… if they don’t belong in any argument about the regular season mattering is irrelevant if a committee can just determine for you that a single injury eliminated you. I much rather have a playoff with games determine that than a committee…

16 max works with 4 major conferences. I’d just keep it at 12. But I’d just change it to make it a conference playoff and then a smaller 4 or even 6 team national playoff.
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They 1,000% did not deserve to be in the playoffs because circumstances changed that made them a different team.

Losing your QB completely changes the makeup of your team, it would be the equivalent of if Miami went undefeated & lost Carson Beck right before the playoffs. Do you think Miami would win a playoff game with Emory Williams starting?

A 16 team playoff is as stupid as can be for College Football when teams only play a 12 game season with the potential to play 13 if they make their conference title game, which would end up being insignificant if you're going to have an overly expanded playoffs.

4 was perfect, 12, 16, 20+ is asinine.
 
DMoney said:
Four is the right number. Every real controversy in college football history is solved by four teams. And in most years, that’s overkill.

Expanding the playoffs was always a bad idea and it gets worse every year.
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Sorry DMoney 4 was not it. Every other Play-off has more than 4 teams. I’m not just talking CFB. I mean sports period. For CFB I think 16 is the sweet/perfect spot. It works for the FCS and other divisions. Why wouldn’t it work for the FBS who has more money?
 
Caneofcanes said:
Sorry DMoney 4 was not it. Every other Play-off has more than 4 teams. I’m not just talking CFB. I mean sports period. For CFB I think 16 is the sweet/perfect spot. It works for the FCS and other divisions. Why wouldn’t it work for the FBS who has more money?
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Yeah but college football is different. Somehow. I guess.
 
The CFB playoff has been in place for a decade now.

What egregious errors have taken place of teams getting screwed?

There's one example from 5 years ago, but other than that, what teams are consistently getting screwed on a yearly basis?

The committee has gotten the 4 best teams right at least 95% of the time, there was absolutely no reason to expand to 12.

There's even less reason to expand any more, otherwise, what is even the point of the playoffs if everybody gets in?
 
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RF-4CCane said:
While it would cut down on opt outs and the current irrelevancy of non playoff bowl games, the flip side is this.

2007 LSU- 2 loss mediocre team wins the NC because they got hot for two games despite losing two games to mediocre teams.

With a 20 game playoff, we could have a 4 loss overrated SEC/Big10 team get hot in December/January and win the NC over an undefeated team that had one bad game.

The regular season should count.
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By this logic should any team that won the Super Bowl as a wildcard playoff participant have asterisk with their championship? They’ve been a number of things who lost a few games early went on a roll and ended up with a Lombardi trophy.

I do agree 20 teams is too many. I will say that four teams is too few. In the past, you could say the teams among the four CFP participants were usually an almost always the four best teams. But this was an era when allowed cheating by the SEC paved the road to win championships with near impunity.

This past season eventual national champion and two-loss Ohio State was the eighth seed. Were they not the best team by the end of the year? Would they have been in the final four on the old CFP format? Unlikely.
 
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Memnon said:
The CFB playoff has been in place for a decade now.

What egregious errors have taken place of teams getting screwed?

There's one example from 5 years ago, but other than that, what teams are consistently getting screwed on a yearly basis?

The committee has gotten the 4 best teams right at least 95% of the time, there was absolutely no reason to expand to 12.

There's even less reason to expand any more, otherwise, what is even the point of the playoffs if everybody gets in?
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2014 TCU was as good as any team in the country and I’ll die on that hill.
 
NFL here we come. Regular season losses get met with “meh let’s see what happens in the playoffs”.
 
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