GaCane1213
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They shouldn't have lied after being asked about it....probably would have gotten 5 games had they told the truth...
The school threw AQM and Grace under the bus like the bunch of fake back stabbing pos that they and most of this fan base included are....
And I think it was pretty obvious that AQM was going to be a top 3 round draft pick. That's a huge loss to the dline, we were deep bc he was on the team.
So which precinct of the Keystone Kops did they hire as the outside entity? If you are going to ***** around this long and know the issue is the probation, you hold AQM and Grace in "suspension awaiting investigation completion" hold (still practice) and roll the dice with Coley. Come the day after VTech, you complete the investigation, state they did do something wrong, but have Lou Freeh on the payroll to state "No reasonable prosecuter would ask for additional games suspended, it should be time served" and have AQM and Grace ask for an expedited ruling from the NCAA.
You get a fresh AQM and Grace back for five crucial (maybe six if the power goes out in Blacksburg and it's postponed to Saturday) games, they still get their senior days in front of family and friends, as oppossed to being a drag on recruiting ("You see how UM threw their players on the bus, come play for us in _______), and Richt is looked as being in touch, not out of touch.
***** you again Blake James, fly the freaking banner, he is still playing checkers!
Yes, and the good folks at the NCAA would not even notice how slick UM was in handling it in
that matter.
SMFH.
That's the problem, we don't recognize the NCAA for the adversary they are, we keep trying this "Well if we do it this way, it will be the way the NCAA wanted it and they will like it." Yeah, that works about as well as one of those weak bully prevention programs in grade school.
Make the NCAA have to work and bring up Perez again and again. Heck, use twitter sock puppets to show in Emmert's NCAA, rapes and their coverups, child molesting and even dog beatings are all okay but black guys driving nice cars is a mortal sin. You use well placed stories and exaggerated public outrage as force multipliers to magnify Emmert's buffoonery. Get control of the narrative first and stop being stripped pants diplomats from Foggy Bottom, instead be Special Ops from the Emerald Coast.
The problem with losing Grace is he is the prototypical nickel LB. Big enough to play the run and fast enough to cover almost anyone on the other team. BIG loss IMO. AQM is easily replaceable if you ask me. We have plenty of athletic big boys that can go get the QB.
They shouldn't have lied after being asked about it....probably would have gotten 5 games had they told the truth...
So which precinct of the Keystone Kops did they hire as the outside entity? If you are going to ***** around this long and know the issue is the probation, you hold AQM and Grace in "suspension awaiting investigation completion" hold (still practice) and roll the dice with Coley. Come the day after VTech, you complete the investigation, state they did do something wrong, but have Lou Freeh on the payroll to state "No reasonable prosecuter would ask for additional games suspended, it should be time served" and have AQM and Grace ask for an expedited ruling from the NCAA.
You get a fresh AQM and Grace back for five crucial (maybe six if the power goes out in Blacksburg and it's postponed to Saturday) games, they still get their senior days in front of family and friends, as oppossed to being a drag on recruiting ("You see how UM threw their players on the bus, come play for us in _______), and Richt is looked as being in touch, not out of touch.
***** you again Blake James, fly the freaking banner, he is still playing checkers!
Yes, and the good folks at the NCAA would not even notice how slick UM was in handling it in
that matter.
SMFH.
That's the problem, we don't recognize the NCAA for the adversary they are, we keep trying this "Well if we do it this way, it will be the way the NCAA wanted it and they will like it." Yeah, that works about as well as one of those weak bully prevention programs in grade school.
Make the NCAA have to work and bring up Perez again and again. Heck, use twitter sock puppets to show in Emmert's NCAA, rapes and their coverups, child molesting and even dog beatings are all okay but black guys driving nice cars is a mortal sin. You use well placed stories and exaggerated public outrage as force multipliers to magnify Emmert's buffoonery. Get control of the narrative first and stop being stripped pants diplomats from Foggy Bottom, instead be Special Ops from the Emerald Coast.
Let's just say that's the way to handle the ncaa....what happens if the "media" campaign doesn't back them off.
Do we just go independent and drop out off the ncaa ?
I feel really bad for AQM and Grace. Yes the car thing is dumb, but like Pete said it usually would be a couple game suspension.
These are 2 guys that committed to Miami when we had "the cloud", and no one knew what the fallout from the NCAA investigation was going to be, and came anyways. They could have gone anywhere, but they came here.
It feels like AQM/Grace stood by Miami when it was a tough time for the school, but the school didn't stand by AQM/Grace when things got tough for them.
They shouldn't have lied after being asked about it....probably would have gotten 5 games had they told the truth...
AJ Green got 4 games for $1,000 in impermissible benefits. And he was candid when confronted by compliance.
They shouldn't have lied after being asked about it....probably would have gotten 5 games had they told the truth...
AJ Green got 4 games for $1,000 in impermissible benefits. And he was candid when confronted by compliance.
People keep reducing it to "it was just rental cars". What is the value of those impermissible benefits? If Grace was riding around in a car all last season what is the monetary value of that?
If an agent handed him 10k to lease a car he'd be done for the season and so would AQM. The NCAA and compliance probably don't see a difference between a cash payout and the value they're placing on riding around in those cars.
Good time for the IPF announcement
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They shouldn't have lied after being asked about it....probably would have gotten 5 games had they told the truth...
AJ Green got 4 games for $1,000 in impermissible benefits. And he was candid when confronted by compliance.
People keep reducing it to "it was just rental cars". What is the value of those impermissible benefits? If Grace was riding around in a car all last season what is the monetary value of that?
If an agent handed him 10k to lease a car he'd be done for the season and so would AQM. The NCAA and compliance probably don't see a difference between a cash payout and the value they're placing on riding around in those cars.
That's because we have a bunch of dimwits on here that think we should be running compliance like a Southern fraternity. The worst case here was UM suggesting a bull**** punishment and then handing it off to the NCAA, which would open the door for Emmert and his gang of lackeys to start sniffing around. Even if these guys used these cars for a weekend, the value of that benefit would be in the thousands. (And, my guess is that the use was much more rampant, meaning the value of the benefits could easily be in the tens of thousands.) Then you have a report that interests in future earnings were involved, coupled with the players lying. And any moron should recognize that the latter would necessarily delay and complicate the investigation. Without knowing all the specifics, it's pretty easy to surmise why UM made its decision and the reason for the timing.
How many players at big time programs do you suppose are driving around in fancy cars?They shouldn't have lied after being asked about it....probably would have gotten 5 games had they told the truth...
AJ Green got 4 games for $1,000 in impermissible benefits. And he was candid when confronted by compliance.
Ridiculous to complain this took too long as if the whole world needs to stop everything they are doing to resolve this issue. People work,are busy,have other projects going on ect...
Just be thankful it was resolved now and not 3 - 4 games into the season.
Worse still, be thankful it was caught now and did not become a systemic problem involving more players .
No, I'm pretty sure that group called the "compliance department" pretty much exists solely for the purpose of handling compliance issues. Especially like this.
One can rationalize anything. Including this apparently. There's nothing that could have happened that some folks here wouldn't defend with the same words, and others criticize with the same words.They shouldn't have lied after being asked about it....probably would have gotten 5 games had they told the truth...
AJ Green got 4 games for $1,000 in impermissible benefits. And he was candid when confronted by compliance.
People keep reducing it to "it was just rental cars". What is the value of those impermissible benefits? If Grace was riding around in a car all last season what is the monetary value of that?
If an agent handed him 10k to lease a car he'd be done for the season and so would AQM. The NCAA and compliance probably don't see a difference between a cash payout and the value they're placing on riding around in those cars.
That's because we have a bunch of dimwits on here that think we should be running compliance like a Southern fraternity. The worst case here was UM suggesting a bull**** punishment and then handing it off to the NCAA, which would open the door for Emmert and his gang of lackeys to start sniffing around. Even if these guys used these cars for a weekend, the value of that benefit would be in the thousands. (And, my guess is that the use was much more rampant, meaning the value of the benefits could easily be in the tens of thousands.) Then you have a report that interests in future earnings were involved, coupled with the players lying. And any moron should recognize that the latter would necessarily delay and complicate the investigation. Without knowing all the specifics, it's pretty easy to surmise why UM made its decision and the reason for the timing.
Ridiculous to complain this took too long as if the whole world needs to stop everything they are doing to resolve this issue. People work,are busy,have other projects going on ect...
Just be thankful it was resolved now and not 3 - 4 games into the season.
Worse still, be thankful it was caught now and did not become a systemic problem involving more players .
No, I'm pretty sure that group called the "compliance department" pretty much exists solely for the purpose of handling compliance issues. Especially like this.
So you think the compliance dept took their sweet time on purpose to spite the football team?