hoops156
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who coaches Clemson?I said bama, clemson, ohio state. Dabo is the coach that was brought up.
who coaches Clemson?I said bama, clemson, ohio state. Dabo is the coach that was brought up.
If manny was developing players and we played disciplined football id be more than happy to give him time.
his results at that time wasn't indicative of special imo. he had 5 loss season 7 loss season and 4 loss season. he then got blown out by West Virginia in the bowl.He made it to the acccg 2 of his first 3 seasons. Nobody knew he would turn clemson into what they are. I said you could tell he was building something special.
There are two massive issues I see with the situation right now:
1) The players who have transformed this team were on the bench and only earned playing time due to injury or necessity, not because of a great coaching move. In fact, players seem to be held back under Diaz.
2) Players in their freshmen/first years have looked good many times before only to regress under this system
3) Former players have said that the culture is not good here
So when the discussion comes up about giving Manny more time, I say why? What has HE actually done to turn this team around? He's a beneficiary of circumstance and not strategy. When he had complete control and it was his decisions to make we were a horrible football team. Now that he lost control due to injury and necessity we are better. That is not a recipe for long term success. That's random chance. And any argument about him being a good recruiter goes out the door when he won't even play those players and when he does they regress.
He has not done anything different to prove he's a good coach. I just want to get a really, really good AD in here and trust that person to make the right decisions.
Well no ****. You said its the example i brought up. I said saban and dabo. You ran with dabo.who coaches Clemson?
Agree with all that.There are two massive issues I see with the situation right now:
1) The players who have transformed this team were on the bench and only earned playing time due to injury or necessity, not because of a great coaching move. In fact, players seem to be held back under Diaz.
2) Players in their freshmen/first years have looked good many times before only to regress under this system
3) Former players have said that the culture is not good here
So when the discussion comes up about giving Manny more time, I say why? What has HE actually done to turn this team around? He's a beneficiary of circumstance and not strategy. When he had complete control and it was his decisions to make we were a horrible football team. Now that he lost control due to injury and necessity we are better. That is not a recipe for long term success. That's random chance. And any argument about him being a good recruiter goes out the door when he won't even play those players and when he does they regress.
He has not done anything different to prove he's a good coach. I just want to get a really, really good AD in here and trust that person to make the right decisions.
Well said.There are two massive issues I see with the situation right now:
1) The players who have transformed this team were on the bench and only earned playing time due to injury or necessity, not because of a great coaching move. In fact, players seem to be held back under Diaz.
2) Players in their freshmen/first years have looked good many times before only to regress under this system
3) Former players have said that the culture is not good here
So when the discussion comes up about giving Manny more time, I say why? What has HE actually done to turn this team around? He's a beneficiary of circumstance and not strategy. When he had complete control and it was his decisions to make we were a horrible football team. Now that he lost control due to injury and necessity we are better. That is not a recipe for long term success. That's random chance. And any argument about him being a good recruiter goes out the door when he won't even play those players and when he does they regress.
He has not done anything different to prove he's a good coach. I just want to get a really, really good AD in here and trust that person to make the right decisions.
so you watched the orange bowl blowout by west va and said hes building something special or when he went 6-7? come on now. if you saw that then you know it all and I want the lotto numbers but frankly its hard to imagine that you saw a career WR coach elevated to interim who was fine his first seasons nothing special to be this. fact is he is an exception as he did build it out with Boyd, Watson, and Sunshine. he recruited those 3 so he deserves all the credit.
Clemson goes big on QB’s in the transfer portal for next year. Should they strike it rich, their program will be back. Much like we needed TVD to turn the season around.
Highly doubt Dabo goes after Rattler.I think they have a highly recruited kid behind DJ?
also I bet they try for rattler who isn't good either but he experienced lol. they need to fix their WR recruiting. they've missed on a ton of evals there recently and/or lack of development
Highly doubt Dabo goes after Rattler.
There are two massive issues I see with the situation right now:
1) The players who have transformed this team were on the bench and only earned playing time due to injury or necessity, not because of a great coaching move. In fact, players seem to be held back under Diaz.
2) Players in their freshmen/first years have looked good many times before only to regress under this system
3) Former players have said that the culture is not good here
So when the discussion comes up about giving Manny more time, I say why? What has HE actually done to turn this team around? He's a beneficiary of circumstance and not strategy. When he had complete control and it was his decisions to make we were a horrible football team. Now that he lost control due to injury and necessity we are better. That is not a recipe for long term success. That's random chance. And any argument about him being a good recruiter goes out the door when he won't even play those players and when he does they regress.
He has not done anything different to prove he's a good coach. I just want to get a really, really good AD in here and trust that person to make the right decisions.
Especially since Clemson had nothing in terms of football historic success compared with Miami. It’s was understandable to give him a longer leash.He made it to the acccg 2 of his first 3 seasons. Nobody knew he would turn clemson into what they are. I said you could tell he was building something special.
They hadnt won a national championship since the early 80s. They werent even the best acc football school until dabo.Especially since Clemson had nothing in terms of football historic success compared with Miami. It’s was understandable to give him a longer leash.
Lmao these dudes are so **** clueless. They turned how big of a loser Dabo was into a ******* verb. Clemsoning. To have a possible sniff of success and then **** all yourself and then roll around in it. But yeah, clearly building something special.
Lmao can you read?