The facade of amateur athletes ends with this

[Memnon]

This is really the game-changer.

Paying kids based on some NCAA revenue model does make them paid athletes, and employees.

Having the kids sign merchandising contracts is directly correlated to their level of stardom. And it doesn't make them employees, as the pay is not based on them being on the team. It's based on the following they generate, and maintain.

Makes all the sense in the world.

Third party funding was always an option the NCAA is just so old & draconian they never wanted to truly examine it.

The solution to paying players is just remove all the roadblocks & allow the apparel companies to compensate the players if you don't want the school's paying them directly.

If Adidas, Under Armor, Nike, Puma, Reebok etc., wants to pay athletes then let them & if they want it to keep it from getting out of control just put a cap on how much they're allowed to spend per school.

So for example, you can't have Nike spending $10million in one year with Bama. But since multiple schools have deals with multiple companies all those schools get the same amount that can be spent to pay the athletes per year. Meaning all Nike, Adidas, UA, Puma etc schools get the exact same amount.

And yes, there will still be some unfairness in the system, so what. It's not the perfect model & it never will be, but the fact remains the more they pretend the NCAA is run on amateurism the more cheating will get more rampant behind the scenes than it already is.

Either way, the money (both corporate & private) that people want to give these kids isn't going to disappear no matter what the rules are, so just bring it to the forefront & regulate it to what degree they can.

 

[deleted19794]

Good.

Free market capitalism 101, Supply & Demand.

If 10 year old kids can make money from YouTube by just doing videos, then young adult athletes should be able to profit from licensing their image & likeness.

Yep. Coaches make 8 million, free cars, 100s of tickets, free CC Memberships and the kids can’t get a meal from a booster. Amateur athletics at its finest. The NCAA has a half BILLION in the bank!

 

[Go Canes!!]

Zion? No.

But someone like Tyson Campbell whose name is worth ****? Sure

I think you are sorely underestimating how much revenue Tysoncampbell.com selling T-shirts with X-schools logo on them would have generated in the two months prior to NSD last year.

The possibilities could be endless for players.

Imagine Pat Surtain saying publicly he'll go with whatever program "Furthers his brand" in the weeks before early signing day. Michigan, Ohio State, Alabama, Tennessee and several other programs draw 100k per game and has a massive alumni base. How tough would it be to generate buzz enough for Surtain-Go Blue shirts to hit 50,000 sold.

 

[1mg of Epi]

Can someone explain to me how this does NOT benefit Miami?

The bull gators agree to buy 1 million t shirts if the player signs. The golden canes probably won’t be able to buy more than 600,000.

Player goes to UF.

 

[TheRichtShow]

I think you are sorely underestimating how much revenue Tysoncampbell.com selling T-shirts with X-schools logo on them would have generated in the two months prior to NSD last year.

The possibilities could be endless for players.

Imagine Pat Surtain saying publicly he'll go with whatever program "Furthers his brand" in the weeks before early signing day. Michigan, Ohio State, Alabama, Tennessee and several other programs draw 100k per game and has a massive alumni base. How tough would it be to generate buzz enough for Surtain-Go Blue shirts to hit 50,000 sold.

Miami does have a premier brand though, it's just been hidden behind a losing program recently. When we win were absolutely on the level of those programs, just look at the 2017 season before we crashed at the end.

We might not have the #students/alums or the 100K attendance, but Miami is a national brand and you can "further your brand" at Miami just as well as you can at most blueblood schools

 

[1mg of Epi]

So they go to UF. 1 down, ~24 spots left.

Teams need to get their weight up.

Miami doesn’t have the booster money or alumni base to compete with the elites or large state schools. If there’s going to be legal bidding wars, we will have a tough time competing.

 

[TheRichtShow]

Miami doesn’t have the booster money or alumni base to compete with the elites or large state schools. If there’s going to be legal bidding wars, we will have a tough time competing.

Yeah, that's true, but the guy introducing the bill says he's open to putting restrictions.

I'd assume if it passes (obviously unlikely) it will be amended some way to allow for athletes to take corporate/adverising profits, but not straight up booster/fanbase money

 

[ThomasM]

This wouid change the face of CFB forever. It would kill the game as we know it.

Yeah, but it beats the crap out of Alabama being allowed to buy the best team possible, while everyone else scrambles for sloppy seconds.

 

[deleted19794]

Miami does have a premier brand though, it's just been hidden behind a losing program recently. When we win were absolutely on the level of those programs, just look at the 2017 season before we crashed at the end.

We might not have the #students/alums or the 100K attendance, but Miami is a national brand and you can "further your brand" at Miami just as well as you can at most blueblood schools

Let me take you back in time to 1991-1992. UM wore Russell at that time and #13 jerseys were a hot selling item. Why not compensate Gino after playing his last game a percentage of the sales?

 

[TemplarCane]

It will be interesting to see how this might work.

A player is limited in selling 'his brand'. He would not be able to sell his image wearing school uniforms or logos. Those are intellectual property of the school and licensed by the school, the conference, and the NCAA. So, assume the player receives a cut of the revenue.

For discussions sake, imagine Tate Martell and Lorenzo Lingard both become stars at The U. Both have jerseys sold with their name and number. How is the percentage determined? Is there a standard for all players, or subject to negotiation per player? Is this part of the scholarship offer? Tuition, room and board, and royalties?

Can players make their own outside endorsement deals? Could Martell film a commercial for a local car dealership, without wearing Miami gear or mentioning The U? Are we going to see players host their own radio spots, podcasts, or YouTube channels?

Gonna be fun!

 

[1mg of Epi]

Yeah, but it beats the crap out of Alabama being allowed to buy the best team possible, while everyone else scrambles for sloppy seconds.

Actually you do have a point there. Didn’t think of it in those terms.

 

[Groz73Cane]

This wouid change the face of CFB forever. It would kill the game as we know it.

Change definitely, Kill is a little strong. But,it’s the NCAA and they can *** up a wet dream, so yeah I’ll go with kill.

 

[1mg of Epi]

Change definitely, Kill is a little strong. But,it’s the NCAA and they can *** up a wet dream, so yeah I’ll go with kill.

Lol

I just see the large state schools with big fanbases and booster clubs being able to buy their recruits. Which is done now, to a degree, but if it were out in the open, I don’t see UM having the resources.

 

[Firesite]

Im all for this! Shxt players should be getting something even though most already are under the table.

 

[88]

This wouid change the face of CFB forever. It would kill the game as we know it.

Those with no foresight won't realize that...

 

[HurricaneU]

Good for the athletes. And probably even better for Miami. Long way from ever passing but good to see it introduced.

 

[PanteraCanes]

Yeah, but it beats the crap out of Alabama being allowed to buy the best team possible, while everyone else scrambles for sloppy seconds.

Don't think it would help Miami at all. Teams already doing stuff will now just be able to openly and legally do it. So no hope of any investigation to slow them down or stop them.

Also think people vastly overestimate UMs national brand. Even in the good times everything was stacked against us. Bobby Bowden even admitted it when UM beat FSU but FSU got to go to the championship game instead. Miami had that underdog with an attitude appeal but that is limited to start with.

These kind of things will also only benefit a very small amount of players. The vast majority will not see anything and should still be focusing on the degree that so many (fans, players, community, "news" outlets, public) don't put any value on at all for these players. Yet the same people putting no value on degree for the players are worried about the vast debts the rest of the students are gathering up because they don't have free tuition, food, room, board, etc like the athletes are getting.

 

[1mg of Epi]

Good for the athletes. And probably even better for Miami. Long way from ever passing but good to see it introduced.

How do you see this working out well for Miami?

 

[LuCane]

The bull gators agree to buy 1 million t shirts if the player signs. The golden canes probably won’t be able to buy more than 600,000.

Player goes to UF.

There are alternative markets to the limited booster one you described.

 

[1mg of Epi]

There are alternative markets to the limited booster one you described.

The other market is the fan base, which we all know is relatively small at Miami. Miami is in a larger market, but do our ratings for a typical acc matchup beat UFs?