The Duke Dilema

[Rellyrell]

Didn’t need a 6 paragraph explanation either sheesh

Apparently it did, & If it took u 6 paragraphs to read simple bullet points then that’s all I need to know.

 

[Warrior808]

Honestly, I think the longest odds in this whole scenario is that we win all 3 of our remaining games. Im guess as it stands today Pit would be slightly favored at home in late November.

 

[TaylorWalls]

Honestly, I think the longest odds in this whole scenario is that we win all 3 of our remaining games. Im guess as it stands today Pit would be slightly favored at home in late November.

As of today we would be favored by 6 to 6.5 on a neutral field. Probably -3.5 at Pitt.

 

[tdjones34]

Honestly, I think the longest odds in this whole scenario is that we win all 3 of our remaining games. Im guess as it stands today Pit would be slightly favored at home in late November.

Pitt won't be favored

 

[01Falsetto]

Duke potentially making the playoffs is the reason why it was bad to get rid of the pac 12. The ex conference teams are still good and would be a better conference than the big 10

 

[TrumpyCane]

That’s the reality of the playoff. Why would he play anybody that’s banged up or tired and risk further injury? Remember FSU against North Bama? How’d that workout for them keeping Travis in the game? Beating ND doesn’t mean anything to Pitt. Their only path to the playoff is winning the ACC. Late OOC games are essentially week 18 of the NFL for 98% of teams.

Miami really needs to start scheduling an OOC game late in the year and take advantage of these situations.

Trumpycane thinks maybe ask Norvell why they were down 14-0

That’s why he was in the game

 

[ST26]

I don’t need it explained in a 30 min clip, so let me simplify it for us all b/c it literally doesn’t need 30 mins.

Technically, this is correct & I overstated my position b/c of assumptions of this board & that’s my fault. The CFP will take the highest the top 5 highest ranked conference champions from:

ACC
B1G
Big12
SEC
Conf. USA
MAC
MWC
Sun Belt
American

Each Conference champion must be ranked w/in the CFP Final 25, with each of the highest being auto bids. Now, the ? was about Duke winning out. They are currently 5-4.

This means they will have defeated:
-UVA (CFP #22)
-UNC
-WF
-GT or Pitt in the ACCCG (CFP #15)

What if Duke beats UVA, & loses 1 of 2 to either UNC or WF, but then defeats a ranked GT or Pitt in the ACCCG? Again, that’ll be two CFP Top 25 teams eliminated on their resumé. The G5 is only sending one team & it’s going to be either: JMU, Navy, or North Texas.

The G5s have zero ranked teams right now in the CFP Top 25, while the ACC has 6. One of those 5 r getting in, as the odds of us making the ACCCG is almost 0%. The winner of the conference will be ranked in the Final 25, & that includes Duke if they run the table & win out.

Last time I checked, James Madison and USF are both ranked right now. So if Duke were to hypothetically win the ACC (highly doubt they do), then the acc isn’t necessarily guaranteed a spot. Duke lost to UConn and Tulane, so they wouldn’t get in. The last 5 sports could go to ND, 3rd ranked SEC, 3rd ranked b10 team, 2nd ranked big 12 team, and maybe a sec team (Vandy, OU, or Texas). I think this scenario would actually be helpful to us, because I think we could get that last spot. However, I just don’t trust this committee

 

[LeanMeanOrangeGreen]

Will be Lashlee and Diaz in the ACC championship, and they will both send dic pics to Mario.

The ACC has done this to themselves by adding clown schools from the west, treating their biggest brands like ****, and not doing anything to clean up the league wide officiating **** shows we see every week. Indeed, missed calls are part of the game, but the blunders we’re seeing are deciding games and there are multiple every week. It’s embarrassing, but fitting for this complete joke of a conference.

 

[NC_Canes_11]

Trumpycane thinks maybe ask Norvell why they were down 14-0

That’s why he was in the game

Norvell made the decision to call a designed run for Travis in a game they would’ve won (like they did) without him. Norvell should’ve told Travis not to leave the pocket for that exact reason.

Pitt’s QB is a runner. Narduzzi would be smart to tell the kid not avoid all contact and don’t run past the LOS.

 

[Rellyrell]

Last time I checked, James Madison and USF are both ranked right now. So if Duke were to hypothetically win the ACC (highly doubt they do), then the acc isn’t necessarily guaranteed a spot. Duke lost to UConn and Tulane, so they wouldn’t get in. The last 5 sports could go to ND, 3rd ranked SEC, 3rd ranked b10 team, 2nd ranked big 12 team, and maybe a sec team (Vandy, OU, or Texas). I think this scenario would actually be helpful to us, because I think we could get that last spot. However, I just don’t trust this committee

That was my fault; the “official” CFP site didn’t update their rankings. Yes…

JMU & USF r 24th & 25th respectively.

If ND wins out, they’re getting in. The highest seed they can get is 5th even in an undefeated season, & they certainly won’t be a 5th seed, but they’ll be top 12.

B/c the ACC have so many teams in the top 25, I highly doubt they’ll put in two G5 teams. That’ll be a bad optical look for a “perceived” power conference. There was already backlash for what happened in 2023.

 

[BigDikDaddyFromCincinnati]

Yeah, I'm old but fk it pilgrim

So I too remember when that "song" came out. It was awful then. I forgot about it well into the 2010's and all of a sudden, while working one day, a co-worker started singing "Duh huh dah-huh....dah huh huh huh huh" and I instantly recognized it. I wanted to vomit and of course my co-worker, being the ball-breaker he was, only continued to sing it while also cuing it up on YouTube. I hated it then.
Not much has changed. Still hate it. But it's a great troll song. Sticks in folks' heads like laffy taffy on hot pavement.

 

[Tru C]

Win the next two (Nc State and Va Tech) and things will be much clearer thereafter. Only thing is that Pitt game is shaping up to be a monster with everything on the line. I would not be surprised if Miami is sitting at #12 or #13 going into that game. Night game in the cold perhaps both teams sitting with 2 losses and ranked in the top 15. Oh God my stomach hurts already.

 

[Miami04]

That was my fault; the “official” CFP site didn’t update their rankings. Yes…

JMU & USF r 24th & 25th respectively.

If ND wins out, they’re getting in. The highest seed they can get is 5th even in an undefeated season, & they certainly won’t be a 5th seed, but they’ll be top 12.

B/c the ACC have so many teams in the top 25, I highly doubt they’ll put in two G5 teams. That’ll be a bad optical look for a “perceived” power conference. There was already backlash for what happened in 2023.

This changed this year. The conf aren’t guaranteed the top 4 seeds. ND could get the #1 seed in undefeated.

 

[TpaBayFlyFisher]

Win the next two (Nc State and Va Tech) and things will be much clearer thereafter. Only thing is that Pitt game is shaping up to be a monster with everything on the line. I would not be surprised if Miami is sitting at #12 or #13 going into that game. Night game in the cold perhaps both teams sitting with 2 losses and ranked in the top 15. Oh God my stomach hurts already.

Mario built this team for that kind of game. I just hope he got it right.

 

[Rellyrell]

This changed this year. The conf aren’t guaranteed the top 4 seeds. ND could get the #1 seed in undefeated.

Good looking; I misread the new rules.

“The new policy will guarantee the five highest-ranked conference champions a place in the Playoff, but will no longer include a bye for the four highest-ranked champions. The 12-team bracket will now be seeded directly based on the final ranking of the CFP Selection Committee, with the four highest-ranked teams receiving a first-round bye. If one or more of the five highest-ranked conference champions are ranked outside the top 12, that team or teams would move up to the 12th seed, 11th seed, etc., based on the number of conference champions outside the top 12.”

Which means, to ur point, an undefeated ND or possibly a 1 loss ND team can be voted as the #1 seed in the CFP final 12. This almost means, ND really have no reason to join a conference, as an aside. They r really getting the best of both worlds.

 

[GirthQuake]

The Conference Champions of the P4 get auto bids & the highest G5 conference champion gets an automatic bid. The ACC may not get two teams in, but they r guaranteed 1.

It’ll be funny if an 8-4 duke beats a 1 acc loss g tech to force the true intentions of the cfp committee.

 

[407cane]

If Clemson beats Louisville and then Louisville beats SMU things are setup really well for us.

I mean I think UVA is going to drop another game for sure. Duke at this point would be a joke to make the ACC CG lol.

We just need to win out period. What happens in ACC is out of our control. Just win out for ***** sake

in that scenario we'd still be at least 4th

smu would have tiebreaker over us, GT would still be ahead of us, and Duke

we're not making the acc title game lmao

out of all the teams on our schedule we lost to the 2 teams that mattered the most in terms of post season potential

 

[tdjones34]

in that scenario we'd still be at least 4th

smu would have tiebreaker over us, GT would still be ahead of us, and Duke

we're not making the acc title game lmao

out of all the teams on our schedule we lost to the 2 teams that mattered the most in terms of post season potential

H2H doesnt matter in 3-4-5 team tie breakers unless a team beat everyone tied

 

[Calinative]

in that scenario we'd still be at least 4th

smu would have tiebreaker over us, GT would still be ahead of us, and Duke

we're not making the acc title game lmao

out of all the teams on our schedule we lost to the 2 teams that mattered the most in terms of post season potential

I mean Im not saying that's all we need. But that would be going a long way.

We Need/Want:
Pitt to beat GTech
Wake to beat Duke
VTech to beat UVA
Cal to beat SMU

ESPN projects us at like >4% chance. The results for Louisville and UVA significantly helped. Clemson beating Louisville and SMU losing to Louisville significantly help more

 

[gogeta4]

The committee should make up a rule banning the ACC for this years playoff. The SEC and BIG 10 will be screaming for all 12 spots if that happens. They would have a valid point.

on fs1 today jon gruden and david portnoy and everyone on their show said acc shouldnt have a team in the playoffs this year. said it could happen as long as the g5 is ranked higher...even spoke on duke.

they planting the seeds cause im sure espn propoganda will do so as well.....im almost hoping it happens because the acc and their refs have f*cked miami all to much for tobacco road teams...now they can see no one gives a f*ck about your tobacco road sh*t outside of basketball.

then the acc plays the b*tch role to notre dame...have them in every sport except football. ovid was perfect to tell them sh*t or get off the pot we arent scheduling games with yall eat a d*ck...but nooooo. then nd turns around and sign deals with sec, and other conferencer for multiple games for years.

this is why is aid i dont care about us being in a conference we should go indy for awhile....Notre dame is almost a shoe in for the playoffs yearly with their set up and they no they can lose early games and still be in the running playing mid an sh*t the rest of the year outside of their big games.

acc problem is always arount october the whole conference canibalizes each other...and the conference doesnt have the cache of having fraud pre szn rankings to make up for these losses and espn media to push up rankings after losses for viewerships in slavebelt states lol