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ball915 said:
The fans who believe we will beat Clemson on the road are appreciated but delusional. Their attention to detail is exceptional and has been for the last half decade. It is exactly the type of opponent that will expose our weaknesses that we've been able to mask so far to the fullest. Outside of Bolden we are not a good tackling team and our offensive line while much improved is just not at the level we need them to be. Having staff members like Blake Baker and Scott Patke on staff will be very visible and the difference of the game. FSU and Loserville had defenses that were atrocious and it's easy to get overly excited about our much improved offense. The offense should be able to move the ball on Saturday and it's the consistency of that movement that will keep us in the game or not. To close, we will witness the gap between our solid offensive staff to our not so solid defensive staff in a game of this magnitude. Vegas has them as a two touchdown favorite for a reason and this is why.
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On the road this year dont mean **** buddy
 
canesthing3 said:
When you say rooting for your boys do you mean Clemson? Because nobody sucks off Bama/Clemson/UGA like you that’s for sure. Speed everywhere? Do you watch the games?

You’re always so quick to shít on the Canes and prop up your favorites, I don’t know if it’s sad or funny that you still claim to be a Canes fan.
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I keep it 100....your little bama suck off sentence doesn't change that. Just because I write that doesn't change that I'm a huge cane fan....but feel free to try and change the flocks mind. Y'all get to much in ur emotions and I'm allowed to keep it real and still love my team. Y'all the type to see someone fuqin your wife and close the door till she's finished and believe her when she says she didn't do anything. I'm the type to keep it a buck period.

But u entitled to believe wtf u want. I have been here and on scout and whatever team is elite at that current time I use them as examples. I use them an fuqin examples because that's the model I want for us. Smh at some of y'all emotional cats that can't read a canes fan saying another team is more talented.....when it's the truth lol wtf. Y'all weird af

Doesn't mean we won't win and I could be wrong like everyone else is daily on this forum. We are allowed to post our opinions u commi.
 
To think we will win this game isn't delusional BUT it is a long shot . UM is a top 10 team but Clemson is head and shoulders the best team in the country. Could we win ? Sure . Will we? I doubt it but as long as we play well I will be happy. Lets learn a lot from this game and get them in December.
 
ilovelamp51 said:
Miami needs to play near perfect AND have Clemson make mistakes.
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Any team has to play near perfect to beat the top teams and that applies when they play each other. If you mean that Miami's chances hinge on whether Clemson plays sloppy, I think you are wrong. I pointed out in another thread how Miami can plausibly win a shootout against Clemson and it doesn't require a lot of luck, sloppiness, or catching Clemson snoozing. It comes down to pace and TOP. If Miami plays defense straight up without blitzes, I believe the front 4 are talented enough to pressure TL. Avoid giving up the big plays. Make Clemson earn each yard, and if we can force them into drives lasting 6-7 minutes, that is a win. On the flip side, Miami has to move at warp speed and score with 3-4 minute drives. Over the course of the game, that should result in at least one extra possession per quarter for Miami. The defense is going to give up lots of yards, LSU's D gave up 400+. That's fine. As long as the D forces Clemson to kick a few field goals instead of scoring TDs, those extra possessions will add up. Let's say Miami has 4 more possessions in the game and scores a field goal and a TD. The defense forces a couple FGs instead of giving up TDs. Miami has a 4 point advantage, and that is without the offense being perfect (only scoring 1 TD in those 4 extra chances). I think your assessment would have been correct if we rolled into this game with Enos as OC and Williams as QB. Fortunately we are much better now and have a bit more margin for error because the game plan isn't based on the Miami defense shutting down the Clemson offense.
 
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TimeB0mb said:
Any team has to play near perfect to beat the top teams and that applies when they play each other. If you mean that Miami's chances hinge on whether Clemson plays sloppy, I think you are wrong. I pointed out in another thread how Miami can plausibly win a shootout against Clemson and it doesn't require a lot of luck, sloppiness, or catching Clemson snoozing. It comes down to pace and TOP. If Miami plays defense straight up without blitzes, I believe the front 4 are talented enough to pressure TL. Avoid giving up the big plays. Make Clemson earn each yard, and if we can force them into drives lasting 6-7 minutes, that is a win. On the flip side, Miami has to move at warp speed and score with 3-4 minute drives. Over the course of the game, that should result in at least one extra possession per quarter for Miami. The defense is going to give up lots of yards, LSU's D gave up 400+. That's fine. As long as the D forces Clemson to kick a few field goals instead of scoring TDs, those extra possessions will add up. Let's say Miami has 4 more possessions in the game and scores a field goal and a TD. The defense forces a couple FGs instead of giving up TDs. Miami has a 4 point advantage, and that is without the offense being perfect (only scoring 1 TD in those 4 extra chances). I think your assessment would have been correct if we rolled into this game with Enos as OC and Williams as QB. Fortunately we are much better now and have a bit more margin for error because the game plan isn't based on the Miami defense shutting down the Clemson offense.
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We NEED to stop the run. Every major game I can recall losing in the past three years, we got slaughtered by the running game. If we can control, “neutralize” or limit Etienne... we should have a good winnable game on our hands.
 
Every week this same topic is brought up and someone has to explain how it works. Just like knowing the difference between RPO and zone read, understanding how/why oddsmakers set lines is completely lost on CIS.

Vegas oddsmakers don't pick a favorite and set a point spread because they think that's going to be the outcome of the game. They set and adjust the point spread to try to get as close to even money in bets as possible. They set an opening line under the assumption of how the betting public will bet and then adjust it accordingly. Sports books don't make money because the guys setting the lines know everything about football and can correctly predict every single game. They make money because they charge a fee for every single bet placed. If half the money is placed on team A and half the money is placed on team B, the book still wins because they've collected a fee for every single bet that was placed. That's why Casinos don't go out of business. It has nothing to do with correctly predicting outcomes.
 
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Paddy Power in the UK is notorious for taking unusual bets. They're taking bets on whether alien life will be discovered, does that make it likely to happen?
 
there are only 2 teams in all of college football that are undefeated W-L & undefeated against the spread...
MIAMI (and BYU)
for context, Clemson is 0-3 against the spread.

Miami has played better than Vegas thinks they are & Clemson isn't as good as Vegas thinks they are.
 
They have some pretty glaring holes on defense athletically this year compared to the last few. The difference is their DC is a lot better at scheming to protect those holes in critical down and distance. The difference this year is we have an OC that adapts on the fly so I have a little more faith we can put them on their heels. The key to the game is and has been stopping ETN. To say we lack the players to mirror him every down would be an understatement but if our DL can be disruptive on early downs we neutralize the way they can feed him. We have to have negative plays and get him on the ground when we have the opportunity. Lawrence is going to be Lawrence. He has shown the ability to make some unreal throws and has wheels, but don't kid yourself, ETN is who they want to get going early and often. We will see how we do.
 
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I tend to agree with the OP with one caveat. Vegas tends to err more at the beginning of the season than it does near the end when it is evident to all which teams are good and which are not so much.

I think Vegas has this line wrong by a bit as I was thinking more 10 than 15 and now it is down to 14. The line is being skewed by previous matchups.

It does make a difference as a 15 pt fav wins about 88% of the time and 10 pt fav wins about 76% of the time.
 
Cribby said:
Etienne is their best receiver and runner. Clemson doesn’t have their normal nfl stable at wr. This isn’t your typical Clemson team, Bama would push their **** in.
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I'm sorry, but I'm not buying that line when they have the future #1 pick in the NFL Draft lining up in the backfield for them (I was going to say 'under centre', but I doubt he ever does!).

They'll be there or there abouts for the title this year.
 
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