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The best athletes ever?

Dr.L.ThugU said:
Cot **** that made no sense. So the 1991 finals matter not to you because the Fakers won a title or 2 in the 80s?

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I said they won 5 in the 80s... Bruh, you need to stop hanging around CDWright.. I said Rick Mahorn doesn't matter to me...
 
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305to954 said:
Ok what’s your top 5 bigs of the modern era?

  1. Shaq
  2. Hakeem
  3. Duncan
  4. Malone
  5. Ewing
Smalls 6”5 under

  1. Curry, I hate him but respect his impact
  2. Wade
3 iverson
  1. Harden
  2. Rose/Westbrook
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Olajuwon was by far the best Center in modern times. I stopped reading your list after that. You seem to list the most physically gifted players and not necessarily the best players at their positions.

Greg Maddux is the best pitcher I've ever seen and he wasn't even close to the most talented pitcher I've seen. Different sport but the point stands.
 
305to954 said:
You need video of slavery rob be sure it existed in America to huh
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There were no cell phones or security camera’s during the days of slavery.

Legit he lives in the most affluent area of Brentwood, where every home is surrounded by racist walls with gates and security cameras. Neither LeCuck’s security camera nor any of his neighbors picked up video of the incident. At every hour of the day there are many people out walking their dogs, jogging etc. no one took a picture before LeCucks maintenance staff repainted the gate. There is no indication of any sort that it ever happened. Jussie Smollett says this story stinks.
 
Dr.L.ThugU said:
Olajuwon was by far the best Center in modern times. I stopped reading your list after that. You seem to list the most physically gifted players and not necessarily the best players at their positions.

Greg Maddux is the best pitcher I've ever seen and he wasn't even close to the most talented pitcher I've seen. Different sport but the point stands.
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No. Hakeem was not better than shaq. Yes he had better moves in the post. Better footwork and all. But no shaq was the most dominant center to ever touch the floor
 
Ecush said:
There were no cell phones or security camera’s during the days of slavery.

Legit he lives in the most affluent area of Brentwood, where every home is surrounded by racist walls with gates and security cameras. Neither LeCuck’s security camera nor any of his neighbors picked up video of the incident. At every hour of the day there are many people out walking their dogs, jogging etc. no one took a picture before LeCucks maintenance staff repainted the gate. There is no indication of any sort that it ever happened. Jussie Smollett says this story stinks.
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305to954 said:
No. Hakeem was not better than shaq. Yes he had better moves in the post. Better footwork and all. But no shaq was the most dominant center to ever touch the floor
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So he had better footwork, better moves in the post, could make a free throw , was better defensively but wasn't better ?
 
Dr.L.ThugU said:
So he had better footwork, better moves in the post, could make a free throw , was better defensively but wasn't better ?
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No. He was not better than shaq. Just like kyrie is a better ball handler, equal a ft shooter and has better footwork than KD. But is not better do to the fact KD is 6”11. Shaqs physical presence and domination put him above keem
 
305to954 said:
No Jordan does not have all the advanced stats on his side. And he doesn’t have all the counting stats on his side. To actually sit here and claim that skill wise lebron isn’t on par to MJ is laughable. Jordan blows lebron away in ft shooting that’s about it when it comes to skill.

Now too the rings. The laziest argument of all. Let me say this 1st, championships are a team accomplishment. Yes, certain players will alway get more credit than the whole. But it takes a team to accomplish any championship aspirations...Yes, Jordan has 6-0 on his resume. But lebron has been to more. None and I repeat none of the teams Jordan beat are better than the 73 win warriors, the 3 future mvps plus Obama thunder, or the future 4 HOF spurs. The argument ppl always say is “Jordan stopped sooo many great players from winning”. Fact is the bulls in the 90s, especially the 2nd 3 peat were what the warriors are today. A stacked team. Built eerily similar since like klay and steph, mike and pipp were products of the draft. It’s rare that a organization drafts two future HOF in the same era and similar situation n age. Then u add a Cartwright, longley, Paxton, Armstrong..then a paxon, Kerr, kokoch, Harper. Along with what everyone never brings up, a watered down NBA (until the mid 90-late 90s). The bulls run happened in a vacuum. Or how’ when Jordan left none of those vaunted teams won in his absence. Nope it was the rockets who went back to back. And the bulls were still winning 50 plus with out Jordan.

Yes Jordan has one more mvp but lebrons prime has been longer than Jordan’s. Therefore he’s battled the “lebron fatigue” thing for years. Meaning D rose has a mvp that should be brons. So does KD. So does Steph(the 1st not the 73 win year). Meaning that if anyone put up lebrons numbers in those years they’d win the mvp that year no doubt.

I’m 25. So No I did not live through the mj era. But that makes me more objective than those who have the emotional nostalgic memories of mj. Those who swear his career was only 6 years. Ppl who promise Jordan never misses a GW BASKET. Ppl who promise Jordan wasn’t squaded In a weaker era of the NBA, especially western conference teams...But guess what. His games are on YouTube. And I’ve watched a very good amount being a basketball fan as I am. Therefore my conclusion is this, lebron will never pass MJ while he is playing. Because there will always be pushback from the Jordan fans. But 15 years after Lbj retires, when the NBA and culture realize how great the man was. When ppl come the realization that there will never be the total package like him for a very long time, ppl will come to the same conclusion that I have. There has never been a more complete basketball ball player to play. From scoring, to passing to defensive versatility. Nobody has done it better for longer than lebron. And skill wise he is not slowing down
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This is the weakest era of defense in the history of the nba AND Lebron got to play in the pathetic weakstern conference for his entire career and Jordan still has better advanced stats lol...again Jordan has twice as many titles and finals mvps AND better advanced stats. That warriors series kills me 😂 that was not an all time great warriors team....it’s getting overhyped because of the win totals, Warriors with Durant haven’t touched 73 wins so far does that mean the 73 win warriors team is better than the Durant warriors ? Dirk beating the Heatles without a single all star next to him is a better accomplishment (and he didn’t need a suspension in a key game) than Lebron beating that overrated warriors team (the one that was 2 minutes away from losing to OKC in 6). “More complete player” lol Jordan was Complete...putnup 33-8-8 with 7 straight triple doubles just to shut up dummies who claimed he was just a scorer, then he went back to doing what he does best and let Scottie take more of a playmaking role for the better of the team not because he can’t do it....lakers
Record would be a lot better if Lebron didn’t insist so much on stuffing the entire stats sheet to prove he’s this all around genius and just took over games scoring wise but no he would rather go 27-12-9 instead of 45-5-5....and don’t forget Lebrons advanced stats will continue to go down as he gets older. Jordan absolutely
More skilled than Lebron not
Even close.
He was a genius posting up stopping on a dime crazy layups at the rim better dribbler etc Lebron puts his head
Down and charges into the lane. And yes lebrons competition in the finals has been better than Jordan’s but Jordan never had more than one all star next to him ... Lebron has had two all stars next to him in every final except 2. And his competition in the east has been an abomination. First year in the west and his team is in 11th place lmao.
He’s the second best player imo and the only one (along with Wilt) who’s even in the same
Stratosphere as jridan inmdvanced stats. “Titles is such a lazy argument” again Jordan also has
More MVPs and better advanced stats in case you forgot. Lebron has “he’s 6’8” and “he’s more complete” idk about you but I’ll take the one with twice as many titles more
Mvps (despite playing less years) and better advanced stats (while playing in a much tougher conference with much lower scoring across the league)
 
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CaneOil said:
I guess you didn't get to see Magic and Bird play, both had that same hunger and when the game was on the line they beat Jordan all the time. Boston beat Jordan 17 times in a row and swept him twice in the playoffs. Jordan didn't dominate until 91, even Detroit smoked him. I think some of you guys just want to forget what Jordan did in the 80's.
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“Detroit smoke him” lol one series went 6 and the other went 7 with pippen missing game 7....smoking is what Jordan did
To the pistons in 91 (sweep). Once pippen turned into an all star and Jordan finally had ONE all star next to him it was a wrap for the league
 
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