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The best athletes ever?

JBCanes-NC said:
2nd??? Bruh, you spelled 10th wrong... Put the bottle down
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2nd amongst lefties....
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CaneOil said:
At their peak? Yes, but it's close. Both of them had more mental toughness. That's one of the reasons Jordan couldn't beat them. When the game was on the line Bird dominated Jordan. Magic didn't play them as often. Jabbar was out against philly in the playoffs for a game 6 I believe in philly. Magic played center and scored 42 I think. Jordan guarded Bird quite often, it was not contest. Bird could only jump about a ft high LMAO. I can't say who the GOAT was because there we so many great players back then. Look up Dr J's games, look when he went to Rucker park. Dr J was a frigon monster early on. Might be the best leaper I've ever got to see. If I had to rate him against Jordan It might be jordan 100 Dr J 99. I liked watch J much better though. So glad I got to see these guys live. J came in probably 3 times a year at least, never missed one.
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See I respect this. You came with facts. I’m for sure not putting bird above lebron tho. Lebron at his athletic peak was a better scorer and defender.
The magic argument is dicey. I’ll Take it back to lebron to Miami.... Most, including me thought lebron would be a 22-24 ppg with 6-RBs 6 ***. guy because of the fact wade and bosh were on par to carry the load. But through those 4 years bron became a better more efficient scorer along with the overall game. Then you add his improvement defensively in Miami...then he brought that all to Cleveland. That 6-7 year stretch in my opinion put him ahead of magic imo. If he wins a ring in LA as the lead guy he cements himself along side Jordan as the best non bigs to ever play. My list assumes he will

Non big top 5
1a MJ
1b Bron
2 magic
3 Kobe
4 bird
5A KD (nipping at birds heels tho)
5b Giannis( if he gets a jumper and rings, could surpass Kobe at 3 imo)
 
canesthing3 said:
LBJ. He’d dominate at multiple sports at a multitude of positions.
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You’re speculating about other sports. Did MJ make it to play in the Majors? Deon and Bo actually played. MJ is probably greatest B-ball play, although I go with Bill Russell based on titles along, but not greatest athlete.
 
305to954 said:
See I respect this. You came with facts. I’m for sure not putting bird above lebron tho. Lebron at his athletic peak was a better scorer and defender.
The magic argument is dicey. I’ll Take it back to lebron to Miami.... Most, including me thought lebron would be a 22-24 ppg with 6-RBs 6 ***. guy because of the fact wade and bosh were on par to carry the load. But through those 4 years bron became a better more efficient scorer along with the overall game. Then you add his improvement defensively in Miami...then he brought that all to Cleveland. That 6-7 year stretch in my mint put him ahead of magic imo

Non big top 5
1a MJ
1b Bron
2 magic
3 Kobe
4 bird
5A KD (nipping at birds heels tho)
5b Giannis( if he gets a jumper and rings, could surpass Kobe at 3 imo)
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I'm not saying your wrong, but you never watched Bird play live. Neither did I. I always though Bird was overrated, but I heard so many old heads tell me that Bird is the GOAT. I gotta respect that opinion. I even had a few 5%ers tell me Bird was the GOAT. I feel like you can't rate someone accuratley if you didn't see them play in their prime.
 
Dr J was over his peak when I got to see him in the early 80's but he was still electric. J at his prime was probably = to Jordan. Better leaper and dunker, probably not as good as a shooter outside as Jordan. J was class. We got there an hour before the games they use to let us on the floor loved just standing next to those guys. **** this brings back so many memories.
 
OriginalGatorHater said:
I'm not saying your wrong, but you never watched Bird play live. Neither did I. I always though Bird was overrated, but I heard so many old heads tell me that Bird is the GOAT. I gotta respect that opinion. I even had a few 5%ers tell me Bird was the GOAT. I feel like you can't rate someone accuratley if you didn't see them play in their prime.
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Oh no doubt bro. I have mad respect for bird. But do to the fact that his prime was so short. And the fact those guys I have above him defensively were better. No I didn’t see bird play in his prime. But I know offensively he was a bad boy.
 
OriginalGatorHater said:
I'm not saying your wrong, but you never watched Bird play live. Neither did I. I always though Bird was overrated, but I heard so many old heads tell me that Bird is the GOAT. I gotta respect that opinion. I even had a few 5%ers tell me Bird was the GOAT. I feel like you can't rate someone accuratley if you didn't see them play in their prime.
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Bird was amazing. He was a great defender and rebounder even though he was not athletic . Dude would live in the film room and anticipate. Offensively he had ice in his veins and was fanatical about putting in work.
 
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305to954 said:
Oh no doubt bro. I have mad respect for bird. But do to the fact that his prime was so short. And the fact those guys I have above him defensively were better. No I didn’t see bird play in his prime. But I know offensively he was a bad boy.
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Ya I got you bro. I know what you mean. I don't even rank him because I don't feel like I can fairly rank him. Look at Bill Russell. He has something like 11 rings. lol. I can see why people think he is the GOAT, but all I can find is like 2 minutes of blurry clips of him dunking so I really can't judge him fairly.
 
305to954 said:
He didn’t fake that ****..bro just stop lol
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True. This off season LeCuck and Oj Simpson are combining forces and searching the country for Nicole’s killer and the guy who spray painted the gate that has video surveillance but no video or still pictures of the painting or the final graffiti.
 
Dr.L.ThugU said:
Bird was amazing. He was a great defender and rebounder even though he was not athletic . Dude would live in the film room and anticipate. Offensively he had ice in his veins and was fanatic about putting in work.
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That is what I heard. He used to get in guys heads all game too which was big.
 
OriginalGatorHater said:
Ya I got you bro. I know what you mean. I don't even rank him because I don't feel like I can fairly rank him. Look at Bill Russell. He has something like 11 rings. lol. I can see why people think he is the GOAT, but all I can find is like 2 minutes of blurry clips of him dunking so I really can't judge him fairly.
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The facts that Russell dominated wilt should be enough to validate his legacy. He played with great players around him to tho too
 
Ecush said:
True. This off season LeCuck and Oj Simpson are combining forces and searching the country for Nicole’s killer and the guy who spray painted the gate that has video surveillance but no video or still pictures of the painting or the final graffiti.
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Go to bed
 
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305to954 said:
The facts that Russell dominated wilt should be enough to validate his legacy. He played with great players around him to tho too
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Facts. I just find it hard to rank him off those little clips I saw. Same with wilt. He barely has any tape. So because of that. I just leave them off my rankings entirely and let the old heads compile the real goat ranking.
 
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