The Banner is a stupid idea and other thoughts

[LA'Cane818]

It's that everything was so **** familiar. Dade County players making plays for Louisville, inexplicable Gus Edwards runs on third down, players melting down on the sideline. It was the Rustled Bowl with green helmets.

You left out Artie being stepped to again, and again not doing anything about it. The worse part about Golden is that he has neutered our sofla boys and the team is becoming soft like him.

Maybe the players should do their talking on the field and not worry about "stepping" to people.

Well they aren't doing either, so I don't see your point.

 

[Ispyin]

Anyone who doesn't think that the banner might influence a future coaches view of the program is naive, especially if you are talking about someone in demand with options.
Yes other fan bases **** and moan and rip players and recruits on message boards.

they don't generally fly banners asking to fire the coach, as frustrated as they may be. It's short sighted even if the anger is justifiable. I want him gone too.

Fvck every other program's fan base.

This is MIAMI foo!

Cool, cause miami is the only one needing a new coach and hoping to get a good one finally

foo

 

[DMoney]

And while DMoney is here, what are you hearing on Howard and Duke with regards to the staff? Heard there's some real friction brewing.

Howard and Duke are smart, aware guys who are 100% football. When something isn't right, they know.

Golden is at risk of losing the team, and some of the damage is already done. That is what will get him fired, not any banner. He needs to beat both Nebraska and Duke to keep any measure of respect in the locker room, IMO.

 

[SevenNSeven]

Banners flying every week will do less damage than sitting back, doing nothing and hoping the admin gets a clue. That is what is wrong with people in this country. Scared to stand up for what they want and so willing to take it up the ***. Thinking change comes on it's own.

Can we make one thing ******* abundantly clear? Banners won't get Golden fired, losses will.


Banners are the candle on the **** sandwich, the flare over the sinking ship, they are an exclamation point, not the god**** sentence. Flying a banner the second game is asinine. If the coaching staff is who we think they are, you'll get to employ your own personal Launchpad Mcquack and fly your sign soon enough.

 

[Miami82]

D$, the squeaky wheel gets the grease.

This administration appears blind to our football program. The BOT appears blind to our football program. And of course, we get zero feedback from anyone, which is of course, to be expected. It just FEELS like no one at UM administration level or the BOT gives a tinker's ****.

I'll tell you what they DO care about - very much! Image. They're all about THEIR image, and the image of the U. Image is everything to these folks. They want all the emphasis to go to academics, but the most public display of the University is the football program. Locals, and at times, there is a national image.

The banners start flying, or billboards go up, the Administration and the BOT has to pay attention. Friends and associates will start asking questions. The media reinforces the idea. Game after game, the same thing? Soon, it's an open wound. That HAS to be addressed.

Donna is known as a fund raiser. Let her get off her fat little *** and raise some money if they need it for the buyout. If the administration hadn't pulled a bone-headed extension, there wouldn't be a problem.

The administration also needs to walk across campus to the business department. A good salesman may make unbelievable money, but regardless of his pay, he doesn't cost a company a dime. Because a good performance makes more than his own paychecks, and contributes excess to the company bottom line.

Nick Saban doesn't COST Alabama a single penny. His winning not only pays for his high salary, but he makes the University of Alabama a ton of money as well.

So this retarded BS about a really good coach's salary is a monument to an administration's stupidity.

This post owns this thread... Nailed It.

 

[Cane Dynasty]

Anyone who doesn't think that the banner might influence a future coaches view of the program is naive, especially if you are talking about someone in demand with options.
Yes other fan bases **** and moan and rip players and recruits on message boards.

they don't generally fly banners asking to fire the coach, as frustrated as they may be. It's short sighted even if the anger is justifiable. I want him gone too.

Fvck every other program's fan base.

This is MIAMI foo!

Cool, cause miami is the only one needing a new coach and hoping to get a good one finally

foo

Hence the banner. I want it to look like the flying ******* circus up there.

Fvck the soft *** "potential" corches that would get their feel bads hurt. Pzussys like that would just give us more of what Golden has anyway.

 

[McGahee2TheHouse]

And while DMoney is here, what are you hearing on Howard and Duke with regards to the staff? Heard there's some real friction brewing.

Howard and Duke are smart, aware guys who are 100% football. When something isn't right, they know.

Golden is at risk of losing the team, and some of the damage is already done. That is what will get him fired, not any banner. He needs to beat both Nebraska and Duke to keep any measure of respect in the locker room, IMO.

Lol at what this program has become. It is ******* pathetic and embarrassing that "the Miami Hurricanes" and "need to beat DUKE" are in the same sentence.

 

[The Franchise]

A mom frustrated after a miserable loss? Oh my.

Different than having to answer questions about a banner.

You want recruits parents asking current parents about a banner?

She said she was ****ed about a lot of stuff.

You think a banner will hurt recruiting more then playing like pussies on the field

Golden isn't getting fired one game into the season, so yes I think it will compound issues and make recruiting more difficult.

How many games did it take Pat Haden to fire Lame *****in last year? I'll take that.

All I hear on the recruiting board is "win and we'll get all the guys we want." It should be painfully obvious after that UL game that were not going to win big this year. It'll take a minor miracle at this point to win the lousy Coastal. Losing and playing pu$$y ball is going to be the undoing of this recruiting machine.

On top of all that, I, for one, don't give a fck about accumulating talent if we're just going to waste it on game day anyway. Al has proven he has no idea what to do with the talent he's bringing in. He's getting humiliated by guys from South Florida he didn't even want. Maybe the next coach will get saddled with some guys like Gaines, Burgess, Rogers, etc. and kick some ***.

Lane Kiffin has zero impact on Al Golden not getting fired this week.

So you don't want to accumulate better players for the Miami football team because you think the coach needs to be fired?

You said they'd no way golden will get fired early in the season. Why can USC fire *****in a couple games into his third season, but we can't fire Golden a couple games into his 4th season? Please explain it and don't just tell me it had nothing to do with it.

As for recruits, we're in the best recruiting area in the world. Any competent coach can succeed down here. I'm not worried about the effect a banner or open fan unrest will have on recruiting. I am, however, concerned with the effect getting blown out every time we face a team with a pulse and playing pussified garbage football will have on recruiting.

 

[User-4525]

These players, alums, boosters, and fans all deserve a better product then what's being given to us by Golden.

If anyone still wants to support the banner/billboard idea, matriculate on over to www.westendzone.com for more info.

It really ****es me off that this site will support anything pro-Golden.

As soon as something anti-Golden comes up, it's locked and or deleted.

Literally the only things that have been deleted are banner threads. Everything else has stayed. **** near every thread is anti-Golden. ****, Lucane has been posting his heavy concerns of Golden and staff for a while now.

The **** athletic department hasn't even given us press passes

Why delete them? What CiS rules were broken?

I didn't delete them, but I believe partly because they will attached to us when flown. Maybe the answer is in D$ OP

 

[fincane]

And while DMoney is here, what are you hearing on Howard and Duke with regards to the staff? Heard there's some real friction brewing.

Howard and Duke are smart, aware guys who are 100% football. When something isn't right, they know.

Golden is at risk of losing the team, and some of the damage is already done. That is what will get him fired, not any banner. He needs to beat both Nebraska and Duke to keep any measure of respect in the locker room, IMO.

Lol at what this program has become. It is ****ing pathetic and embarrassing that "the Miami Hurricanes" and "need to beat DUKE" are in the same sentence.

And at one point getting your *** kicked by Miami was unthinkable for college football powers. That isn't the issue. The fact that he is in a win or go scenario with the team and arguably his biggest recruiting win in Tracy Howard is the problem.

 

[fincane]

She said she was ****ed about a lot of stuff.

You think a banner will hurt recruiting more then playing like pussies on the field

Golden isn't getting fired one game into the season, so yes I think it will compound issues and make recruiting more difficult.

How many games did it take Pat Haden to fire Lame *****in last year? I'll take that.

All I hear on the recruiting board is "win and we'll get all the guys we want." It should be painfully obvious after that UL game that were not going to win big this year. It'll take a minor miracle at this point to win the lousy Coastal. Losing and playing pu$$y ball is going to be the undoing of this recruiting machine.

On top of all that, I, for one, don't give a fck about accumulating talent if we're just going to waste it on game day anyway. Al has proven he has no idea what to do with the talent he's bringing in. He's getting humiliated by guys from South Florida he didn't even want. Maybe the next coach will get saddled with some guys like Gaines, Burgess, Rogers, etc. and kick some ***.

Lane Kiffin has zero impact on Al Golden not getting fired this week.

So you don't want to accumulate better players for the Miami football team because you think the coach needs to be fired?

You said they'd no way golden will get fired early in the season. Why can USC fire *****in a couple games into his third season, but we can't fire Golden a couple games into his 4th season? Please explain it and don't just tell me it had nothing to do with it.

As for recruits, we're in the best recruiting area in the world. Any competent coach can succeed down here. I'm not worried about the effect a banner or open fan unrest will have on recruiting. I am, however, concerned with the effect getting blown out every time we face a team with a pulse and playing pussified garbage football will have on recruiting.

Lane Kiffin got 5 games before he got fired.

 

[Cane Dynasty]

And while DMoney is here, what are you hearing on Howard and Duke with regards to the staff? Heard there's some real friction brewing.

Howard and Duke are smart, aware guys who are 100% football. When something isn't right, they know.

Golden is at risk of losing the team, and some of the damage is already done. That is what will get him fired, not any banner. He needs to beat both Nebraska and Duke to keep any measure of respect in the locker room, IMO.

Lol at what this program has become. It is ****ing pathetic and embarrassing that "the Miami Hurricanes" and "need to beat DUKE" are in the same sentence.

And at one point getting your *** kicked by Miami was unthinkable for college football powers. That isn't the issue. The fact that he is a win or go scenario with the team and arguably his biggest recruiting win in Tracy Howard is the problem.

splain

 

[Artist Formerly Known As]

Instead of "fire Golden" what if it said "Miami fans want changes" or something of that ilk.

 

[Cane Dynasty]

Instead of "fire Golden" what if it said "Fvck Golden" or something of that ilk.

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[fincane]

And while DMoney is here, what are you hearing on Howard and Duke with regards to the staff? Heard there's some real friction brewing.

Howard and Duke are smart, aware guys who are 100% football. When something isn't right, they know.

Golden is at risk of losing the team, and some of the damage is already done. That is what will get him fired, not any banner. He needs to beat both Nebraska and Duke to keep any measure of respect in the locker room, IMO.

Lol at what this program has become. It is ****ing pathetic and embarrassing that "the Miami Hurricanes" and "need to beat DUKE" are in the same sentence.

And at one point getting your *** kicked by Miami was unthinkable for college football powers. That isn't the issue. The fact that he is a win or go scenario with the team and arguably his biggest recruiting win in Tracy Howard is the problem.

splain

We were told Howard was all Florida and didn't want to visit Miami. He finally was convinced to visit and signed. 5-star kid who chose us over the presumed favorite who had just played in a BCS bowl. It was big deal. Seems like a long time ago.

 

[The Franchise]

Golden isn't getting fired one game into the season, so yes I think it will compound issues and make recruiting more difficult.

How many games did it take Pat Haden to fire Lame *****in last year? I'll take that.

All I hear on the recruiting board is "win and we'll get all the guys we want." It should be painfully obvious after that UL game that were not going to win big this year. It'll take a minor miracle at this point to win the lousy Coastal. Losing and playing pu$$y ball is going to be the undoing of this recruiting machine.

On top of all that, I, for one, don't give a fck about accumulating talent if we're just going to waste it on game day anyway. Al has proven he has no idea what to do with the talent he's bringing in. He's getting humiliated by guys from South Florida he didn't even want. Maybe the next coach will get saddled with some guys like Gaines, Burgess, Rogers, etc. and kick some ***.

Lane Kiffin has zero impact on Al Golden not getting fired this week.

So you don't want to accumulate better players for the Miami football team because you think the coach needs to be fired?

You said they'd no way golden will get fired early in the season. Why can USC fire *****in a couple games into his third season, but we can't fire Golden a couple games into his 4th season? Please explain it and don't just tell me it had nothing to do with it.

As for recruits, we're in the best recruiting area in the world. Any competent coach can succeed down here. I'm not worried about the effect a banner or open fan unrest will have on recruiting. I am, however, concerned with the effect getting blown out every time we face a team with a pulse and playing pussified garbage football will have on recruiting.

Lane Kiffin got 5 games before he got fired.

Thank you. It was 5 games into his 3rd season right? It wasn't his 4th season was it?

 

[NVA CANE]

Can't see how we beat Nebraska. Unless something dramatic happens, Golden is in serious trouble. The fact he didn't do the radio show tonight tells you all you need to know.

He was handed a weak UL team on a platter and he not only lost he embarrassed himself the program and the university. And for being a know it all that thought he had everything figured out, he deserves everything coming to him.

 

[LA'Cane818]

Good post D other than the banner comments.

Fans drive the bus. We can sit back and claim that a bunch of stuffed shirts will eventually do the right thing on their own, but that's not how it works in real life.

The stuffed shirts are all about taking the easiest possible path. If the fans sit back and act like all is well waiting for the stuffed shirts to rescue the program they won't do it. The fans will force their hand by raising ****. If some hoity toity folks get embarrassed in the process, then so be it.

It's the timing that makes it look clownish.

If it was the last game of the year, I would find it unseemly (because it's Senior Day) but understandable. Doing it after the first game just gives people an excuse to laugh at us. And, more tangibly, it hurts recruiting and makes the program less appealing to coaching candidates.

Here's where I take issue. While I agree that a banner at an empty FAMU game is pointless, It's NOT the first game of the year that has fans ****ed off. It's Golden's complete body of work; rather lack there of, plus his constant line of bull****. He's lost 5 - 7 games, went AWOL during a crucial recruiting period, puts his friendships over the good of the program, and generally makes the school look bad. You say it will embarrass the higher ups? GOOD! They need to be embarrassed, and they should be embarrassed that under their watch the thing that put UM on the map has become a laughing stock. It's a disgrace.

 

[Cane Dynasty]

How many games did it take Pat Haden to fire Lame *****in last year? I'll take that.

All I hear on the recruiting board is "win and we'll get all the guys we want." It should be painfully obvious after that UL game that were not going to win big this year. It'll take a minor miracle at this point to win the lousy Coastal. Losing and playing pu$$y ball is going to be the undoing of this recruiting machine.

On top of all that, I, for one, don't give a fck about accumulating talent if we're just going to waste it on game day anyway. Al has proven he has no idea what to do with the talent he's bringing in. He's getting humiliated by guys from South Florida he didn't even want. Maybe the next coach will get saddled with some guys like Gaines, Burgess, Rogers, etc. and kick some ***.

Lane Kiffin has zero impact on Al Golden not getting fired this week.

So you don't want to accumulate better players for the Miami football team because you think the coach needs to be fired?

You said they'd no way golden will get fired early in the season. Why can USC fire *****in a couple games into his third season, but we can't fire Golden a couple games into his 4th season? Please explain it and don't just tell me it had nothing to do with it.

As for recruits, we're in the best recruiting area in the world. Any competent coach can succeed down here. I'm not worried about the effect a banner or open fan unrest will have on recruiting. I am, however, concerned with the effect getting blown out every time we face a team with a pulse and playing pussified garbage football will have on recruiting.

Lane Kiffin got 5 games before he got fired.

Thank you. It was 5 games into his 3rd season right? It wasn't his 4th season was it?

5th game of 4th season. AD and President decided during the 3rd quarter of the ASU game.

 

[WhatTheHell]

Instead of "fire Golden" what if it said "Happy Valley's That Way, Bltch ****" or something of that ilk.

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