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- On the football side, there is huge confidence from those observing workouts. They believe this is the best, most complete roster we've had in the Cristobal era by a good amount. I continue to hear rave reviews about Carson Beck's arm talent and overall skillset.

July is when I start to get excited for the football season and this update is music to my ears. 😍
 
Memnon said:
Right, but that's because they have the most teams & the teams who tend to be the best at recruiting are mostly in those conferences.

Okay, I'll put it like this:

Do you (or anybody) think that if Bama, or UGA, or Ohio ST, suddenly left their conferences & went to the ACC or Big XII that their recruiting would fall off a cliff?

I mean, Texas had top 5 classes when they were in the Big XII, they went to the SEC & are still getting top 5 classes, so what exactly changed?

Notre Dame recruits at an Elite level, what conference are they in?

I'll do you one better...

Do you think teams like VA Tech, or Pitt would suddenly start recruiting at a high level if they went to the B1G or SEC?
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But you see, you’re saying it’s primarily about money while saying conference has nothing to do with it when in fact being in the SEC/B1G makes you more money. And maybe it was less of a difference previously, but it’s only becoming a bigger difference. Luckily the ACC has changed some stuff to lessen the gap that was set to occur - FOR US…


And if soon Rev share becomes not just a flat number but instead a percentage of revenue generated
 
cway313 said:
Yes, UGA isn't solely relying on NIL for relevancy.

No, those schools don't have the financial standing to be relevant in a major conference.

Would Clemson and Miami recruit better than they do currently if they were in a P2 conference?

Can any school like Texas Tech that is willing to spend big, make things more interesting?

Those are 2 separate arguments. I'm not arguing that it is an automatic qualifier being in those conferences. I'm stating that with all things equal financially we are still at a disadvantage.
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All things aren't equal in the SEC either.

Miami's classes in the Mario era have been 7th, 4th & 14th, we're currently sitting at 6th. If we were in the SEC or B1G, would that mean we'd go from an average of 7, to an average of 5?

UGA was a dominant recruiting program before NIL ever existed. Even during the Mark Richt era they had top 5 classes & he firmly was against paying players under the table, which lead to the Kirby Smart onslaught that took place once he got the reigns.

If TTech went to the SEC, their recruiting would stay the exact same as it is now. They wouldn't recruit above their average on the HS level & would spend very well in the Portal.

It's a classic correlation - causation fallacy that people have.

Being the SEC or B1G does not give a team an advantage. It just so happens that the teams who recruit the best are also in the SEC & B1G, except it's only the schools who are actually good & committed to spending.

When you say the teams that aren't committed to NIL or don't have the financial standing to be relevant in those conferences you're agreeing with my point.

The reason why VA Tech, Pitt, Wake Forest, Cuse etc wouldn't become recruiting powerhouses if they went to the SEC or B1G is the exact reason why schools like Vanderbilt, Kentucky, Mizzou, Arkansas, South Carolina, Miss ST, Iowa, Illinois, Wisconsin, Mich ST, Purdue etc are not recruiting powerhouses while already being in those conferences.

It's not the conference, it's the program.
 
Memnon said:
The reason why VA Tech, Pitt, Wake Forest, Cuse etc wouldn't become recruiting powerhouses if they went to the SEC or B1G is the exact reason why schools like Vanderbilt, Kentucky, Mizzou, Arkansas, South Carolina, Miss ST, Iowa, Illinois, Wisconsin, Mich ST, Purdue etc are not recruiting powerhouses while already being in those conferences.
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Okay, but Kentucky, Mizzou, Arkansas, SCar, Miss St all consistently have top 25/30 classes despite not winning ****, ever. What’s the reason for that?
 
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CanesSkins26 said:
That’s not unique to Miami though, every school faces that in the NIL area. It’s just an excuse and spin.
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Some schools don’t care. Some schools have no regards for roster balance or the consequences of a big name signing.

Let’s say Syracuse has a $20M NIL budget for 2026. They offer Russell $15M of it to sign.

They’re Syracuse, so they may not care of their existing wide receivers are miffed. They just want to make a splash and vastly overpay for the big name signing. They figure it will pay dividends in 2027 and 2028, regardless of the near term chaos that it creates in the position room.

If we give Russell $15M a year, then we have to deal with every other highly talented wide receiver in our position room that wants and increase. A Syracuse doesn’t have to worry about roster balance or competing for a national championship. At this point we are with both.

And if you give Russell $15M…what about Keys? And what about the highly ranked 2027 wide receivers that you want to go after? Very quickly your NIL spend could become like that of an NFL team.
 
Well definitely not a good sign when literally a few Banks ago you said Staff specifically did NOT want to rely on flips late again, and wanted to have most of the big dogs in the boat, and then maybe only work to flip a couple late… and now we are onto the same plan as last 2 years where 2 years ago it ended well and last year ended bad exactly for Lowe.

This staff neeeds to seriously light a fire under their *** to get commitments as early as possible, especially for kids that aren’t really playing games like that
 
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Odysseus said:
Guys rarely flip anymore in the NIL era. No clue why the staff would be banking on that
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think the last line of not going broke early is biggest indicator here. i think they may have learned from the dj pickett situation of spending money in portal to fix a need. instead you don't go all out for some guys (russell) but are for others (cantwell, keys) but I agree i don't see why they didn't pull the trigger on james johnson. maybe they did and just got beat.
 
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Memnon said:
All things aren't equal in the SEC either.

Miami's classes in the Mario era have been 7th, 4th & 14th, we're currently sitting at 6th. If we were in the SEC or B1G, would that mean we'd go from an average of 7, to an average of 5?

UGA was a dominant recruiting program before NIL ever existed. Even during the Mark Richt era they had top 5 classes & he firmly was against paying players under the table, which lead to the Kirby Smart onslaught that took place once he got the reigns.

If TTech went to the SEC, their recruiting would stay the exact same as it is now. They wouldn't recruit above their average on the HS level & would spend very well in the Portal.

It's a classic correlation - causation fallacy that people have.

Being the SEC or B1G does not give a team an advantage. It just so happens that the teams who recruit the best are also in the SEC & B1G, except it's only the schools who are actually good & committed to spending.

When you say the teams that aren't committed to NIL or don't have the financial standing to be relevant in those conferences you're agreeing with my point.

The reason why VA Tech, Pitt, Wake Forest, Cuse etc wouldn't become recruiting powerhouses if they went to the SEC or B1G is the exact reason why schools like Vanderbilt, Kentucky, Mizzou, Arkansas, South Carolina, Miss ST, Iowa, Illinois, Wisconsin, Mich ST, Purdue etc are not recruiting powerhouses while already being in those conferences.

It's not the conference, it's the program.
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How do you explain Mizzou, LSU, Florida, USC, Penn State, Ole Miss etc having signed more of these players (top 5 at their position) than Miami in the NIL era?
 
frank1886 said:
- On the football side, there is huge confidence from those observing workouts. They believe this is the best, most complete roster we've had in the Cristobal era by a good amount. I continue to hear rave reviews about Carson Beck's arm talent and overall skillset.

July is when I start to get excited for the football season and this update is music to my ears. 😍
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I mean... do we ever not hear about how great the team looks this time of year?
 
Shogungts said:
I mean... do we ever not hear about how great the team looks this time of year?
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Yes and no. In Cristobal year 1 we were told very clearly the O had issues in fall camp and we ended see the full failure of a Gattis O. Its most important to usually focus on what isn't said or avoided as that's typically telling, especially if its coming from a more sunshine pump source.
 
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