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The 2015 Arkansas Offense

DMoney said:
This is what we are hoping for. That is Dan Enos's first year at Arkansas. They were the 4th best offense in the country according to Football Outsiders. Brandon Allen went from 71st in passer rating to 6th.

That was also the last year they had some legit NFL talent. That team had two NFL running backs in Jonathan Williams (5th) and Alex Collins (5th). They also had two NFL TEs in Hunter Henry (2nd) and Jeremy Sprinkle (5th) and featured them heavily. None of their receivers were very good.

The talent fell off a cliff after 2015, and the offense was decent but not great after that (39th and 43rd per FO). The year after Enos left, they fell apart and dropped over fifty spots to 97th in the country under former Clemson OC Chad Morris.

It's a surprising hire. Alabama and Georgia wanted this guy and his reputation among SEC coaches is strong. But he is a pro style guy. My hope is that he takes our offensive talent (which is better than 2015 Arkansas) and gets the same elite results.

Here he is against Manny Diaz:

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Great stuff @DMoney.
 
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cleverjdub said:
These mofos oops I mean so called Miami fans are going to criticize every hire we make no matter who it is. They would criticize and complain if we were getting new ball boys because they are experts and no all the names we should be getting. Smh I wish they would go be a fan of another team.
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It’s the same mfs complaining about every rumor and hire.

Complained about Diaz
Complained about Fedora rumors
Complained about Applewhite rumors
Complained about Blake Baker hire
Complained about S&C coach hire
Complained about Tee Martin rumors
Complained about Seider, Trooper Taylor rumors
Complaining about Dan Enos hire
Will complain about WHOEVER we hire at RB, WR, and OL coach
 
jjacks93 said:
It’s the same mfs complaining about every rumor and hire.

Complained about Diaz
Complained about Fedora rumors
Complained about Applewhite rumors
Complained about Blake Baker hire
Complained about S&C coach hire
Complained about Tee Martin rumors
Complained about Seider, Trooper Taylor rumors
Complaining about Dan Enos hire
Will complain about WHOEVER we hire at RB, WR, and OL coach
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Except you can go to the RB Coach thread from last night, and I'm defending the hire. And defending it for the exact same reasons I'm bashing the OC hire. But whatever you say.
 
DMoney said:
I already said his CMU record gives me pause. The good thing is that he did much better once he started working with SEC athletes.

That's probably why the two best teams in the SEC wanted to hire him.
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You keep glossing over that Arky was good 1 year, okay 1, And bad 1 year under Enos.

Bama and UGA can succeed with different Offenses then Miami.

It’s a no brainer at Miami which offense you should run and it’s not in Enos’ past.
 
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DMoney said:
He should've done better there. I'm worried about that.

But it's a different game in the MAC. We are trying to play big boy football and it's encouraging that (1) he built an elite offense in the SEC; and (2) the biggest teams on the block wanted Enos.
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Let me ask you this:

You watch the SEC like the rest of us. UGA and Bama are obviously the two most talented teams in the SEC.

But from an offensive innovation standpoint, do you consider them the two best teams of the SEC? Would you really rather run what UGA ran last year compared to what Ole Miss ran?
 
DMoney said:
We are trying to compete at the highest levels. You need talent to win rings. When Enos had 6th/7th round talent, he built a Top 5 offense. We can give him that and more.
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And think about the difference in talent between Arkansas and the other SEC West teams (Bama, LSU, TAMU etc.). It's not like there were many weeks during the season where they could line-up and win on talent alone
 
mossmadness said:
Except that's a review of what he did at Central Michigan, when he WAS the head coach. Not a review of what he did under BB's direction.
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Ok, I see what you're saying.

Not as successful as it should have been at CMU.

But I don't know enough about the circumstances (yet), to say, this means he's not a good OC for UM.

As these things usually go, having a good track record, (which he has), and being highly respected by those he has worked for, (which he is), and being actively sought after by high profile programs (which he was), …. usually means the down spots over the course of a 25+ year career are the outliers and not the rule.

Listen, I know a TON about the insides of why Manny, for example, was fired as DC at Texas …. and I can promise you that anyone judging his bona fides as a DC based on that event, doesn't know what they are doing.
 
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mossmadness said:
Except you can go to the RB Coach thread from last night, and I'm defending the hire. And defending it for the exact same reasons I'm bashing the OC hire. But whatever you say.
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except , did I mention your name ? If the shoe fits wear it. If it doesn’t, keep it pushin
 
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mossmadness said:
Let me ask you this:

You watch the SEC like the rest of us. UGA and Bama are obviously the two most talented teams in the SEC.

But from an offensive innovation standpoint, do you consider them the two best teams of the SEC? Would you really rather run what UGA ran last year compared to what Ole Miss ran?
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It's not about the purity or dogma of the "system" you are running …. it's more about the guy running it, the folks teaching it, and the kids playing in it. The problem we had the past three years is we were not adapting concepts to the system, and not teaching the guys correctly. To say Ole Miss has a better "system" than Georgia is a bit misleading, since both of those offenses have about 80% overlap. (I played QB for the guy, Coach Carm Cozza, who was one of the original innovators of many of the things they do in their 70 series concepts).

All that being said, you are right about one most important thing: the scoreboard will tell us if Manny was right in the hire.
 
DMoney said:
We are trying to compete at the highest levels. You need talent to win rings. When Enos had 6th/7th round talent, he built a Top 5 offense. We can give him that and more.
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Not with this year’s recruiting class we can’t
 
mossmadness said:
Let me ask you this:

You watch the SEC like the rest of us. UGA and Bama are obviously the two most talented teams in the SEC.

But from an offensive innovation standpoint, do you consider them the two best teams of the SEC? Would you really rather run what UGA ran last year compared to what Ole Miss ran?
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Are you talking about the Ole Miss offense that has 3 first rounders (Little, Brown and Metcalf). I would love to run what Ole Miss is running, but they're not void of talent either. Arkansas, on the other hand, has some of the worse talent in the SEC West. Enos played teams with better overall talent (outside of Bama) very well.
 
DiegoCane said:
You keep glossing over that Arky was good 1 year, okay 1, And bad 1 year under Enos.
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You are looking at total yards which is a terrible indicator. Advanced stats had him 39th and 43rd those last two years, which is solid given that he had no talent. For comparison, they fell to 97th after he left. And that was with a Clemson golden boy at playcaller.

mossmadness said:
But from an offensive innovation standpoint, do you consider them the two best teams of the SEC? Would you really rather run what UGA ran last year compared to what Ole Miss ran?
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I'd have no problem looking like '18 Alabama on offense.

Arkansas played the way they were supposed to. They had two NFL TEs and put them on the field at the same time. They had two NFL RBs and rode them hard. They had no good WRs and still put up huge passing numbers. The end result was 4th in S&P.

My hope is that Enos will maximize the NFL talent here like he did at Arkansas. Nobody knows if it will work or not. Like everyone else, I expected a trendier offense. But the best teams in college football run the ball with power. That's how you win the games that matter. I don't view that approach as archaic. The best teams still play that way.

Enos will need to maximize our WR talent. He won't win at Miami without doing that. But Alabama's WRs looked pretty good in an offense that Saban was ready to hand over to him.
 
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Manny said it best here. This offense will definitely be multiple. "Spread" or "pro style" is way too simplified. Enos clearly aligns philosophically with what Manny is trying to do here, and I have little doubt that we'll see an offense that uses multiple formations and is based on attacking a defense.
 
DMoney said:
You are looking at total yards which is a terrible indicator. Advanced stats had him 39th and 43rd those last two years, which is solid given that he had no talent. For comparison, they fell to 97th after he left. And that was with a Clemson golden boy at playcaller.



I'd have no problem looking like '18 Alabama on offense.

Arkansas played the way they were supposed to. They had two NFL TEs and put them on the field at the same time. They had two NFL RBs and rode them hard. They had no good WRs and still put up huge passing numbers. The end result was 4th in S&P.

My hope is that Enos will maximize the NFL talent here like he did at Arkansas. Nobody knows if it will work or not. Like everyone else, I expected a trendier offense. But the best teams in college football run the ball with power. That's how you win the games that matter. I don't view that approach as archaic. The best teams still play that way.

Enos will need to maximize our WR talent. He won't win at Miami without doing that. But Alabama's WRs looked pretty good in an offense that Saban was ready to hand over to him.
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I think he is going to use more of what bama did. Diaz knows first hand that this o-line isnt built for a power run game.
 
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Diaz adjusted his offense for the better in just 1 off-season (much less after years and years coaching).

Why are people so convinced that Enos hasn't adapted since his time at CMU?

I'll trust the coaches around the league who call him a stud. Why? Because I'm not an expert - and just looking at some #'s doesn't make me one either.
 
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