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Thank you Butch Davis

FreeVilma

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CashMoneyCane

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The notion that Butch's success would have continued at the level it was after he left is pretty myopic. Once the internet took hold and recruiting sites became what they are now, he would still be competing for all the talent he was able to cherry-pick due to less eyeballs on them. While he recruited well at UNC, he wasn't exactly super successful in terms of wins and losses.

There's no huge coincidence that Miami started slipping as a program at the same time the internet became viable and we started really having to compete for the guys in our back yard.
 

caneinorlando

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The notion that Butch's success would have continued at the level it was after he left is pretty myopic. Once the internet took hold and recruiting sites became what they are now, he would still be competing for all the talent he was able to cherry-pick due to less eyeballs on them. While he recruited well at UNC, he wasn't exactly super successful in terms of wins and losses.

There's no huge coincidence that Miami started slipping as a program at the same time the internet became viable and we started really having to compete for the guys in our back yard.
UM started slipping as soon as Butch's kids left UM.....Thats just facts....
 

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Miami didn’t have a first round defensive lineman taken in the draft since Wilfork until Phillips last night. Think about that for a second. That 5 head coaches at this school who couldn’t produce a first round defensive lineman at UM since Butch recruited Vince here. And it took a transfer to finally make it happen.
 

CashMoneyCane

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UM started slipping as soon as Butch's kids left UM.....Thats just facts....

Well, no. Butch left after the 2000 season, which means his last guys were there in 2005. Any 'Cane fan who knows anything will tell you things "started slipping" with the bad loss to Tennessee in the Orange Bowl. Miami couldn't play offense worth a damn and the defense won them games they wouldn't have won without the studs across the board on that side of the ball. The QB room in particular was a disaster after Dorsey left, and Dorsey was the only decent QB he managed to recruit.

If "Butch's kids" were so great, it stands to reason they 1) should have had more success under Coker, and 2) should have had more success in the NFL.

He also wasn't able to replicate that success anywhere else. So, those are facts.

I'm not trying to negate what he was able to do, but you're living in a fantasy world if you think he would have had no trouble sustaining it.
 

caneinorlando

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Well, no. Butch left after the 2000 season, which means his last guys were there in 2005. Any 'Cane fan who knows anything will tell you things "started slipping" with the bad loss to Tennessee in the Orange Bowl. Miami couldn't play offense worth a damn and the defense won them games they wouldn't have won without the studs across the board on that side of the ball. The QB room in particular was a disaster after Dorsey left, and Dorsey was the only decent QB he managed to recruit.

If "Butch's kids" were so great, it stands to reason they 1) should have had more success under Coker, and 2) should have had more success in the NFL.

He also wasn't able to replicate that success anywhere else. So, those are facts.

I'm not trying to negate what he was able to do, but you're living in a fantasy world if you think he would have had no trouble sustaining it.
He would have easily sustained it from 01- too lets say 07 without a problem....
 

CashMoneyCane

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He would have easily sustained it from 01- too lets say 07 without a problem....

OK, so it would have fallen apart 14 years ago? Amazing.

Maybe we should also remember how atrocious the offensive line was by 2005. I'm surprised Kyle Wright lived through that. So Butch with that OL, Kyle Wright at QB and the receivers he had is winning 11 games?

Meanwhile, he was 12-23 at UNC.

It might be time for y'all to get his balls out of your mouth.
 
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