Texas and Strong considering parting ways- Jason Cole

[cane since birth]

I'm so worried about the hiring of Mario that I'd actually be okay with Strong. It's so sad

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[01Canes]

For those that are so vehemently opposed to Strong, would your stance change if you knew Butch wasn't a realistic option?

Also, name me another team other Louisville who played the way the 'Canes of old played back in the day. They absolutely destroyed us a few years ago. They talked trash directly in our face and made our team look like a pinch of puzzies. They completely dismantled our team. Their defense played lights out. They showed no mercy. They took a dump on our squad and then buried our face in it. I was jealous. They stole our identity.

Teams take on the personality of their head coach. We could do much worse.

Destroying a Miami team from the last 5 to 7 years isn't really some major accomplishment to hang your hat on. If that is your standard, then there are a lot more coaches that should be considered...

They destroyed a team full of NFL difference makers and starters in the NFL(Miami) that year ...

What part of "it happened against Al Golden" do you not under f***ing stand? Oh wait, you continued defending him well into his unearned fifth season. And yet you seem completely oblivious as to why your opinions about coaches are immediately brushed aside.

 

[B.B.B]

And I keep hearing that Strong is a great recruiter in South Florida, but at Louisville who did he really pull? Who did he really beat out other top recruiters for?

Bridgewater , He got lucky that Shannon got fired ...
Keith Brown, he only got because he also offered his brother ...
James Burgess, UM backed off recruiting him..
Radcliffe, we didn't even recruit..

Michaelee Harris, Corvin Lamb, BJ Dubose, Charles Gaines, Gerod Holliman, Andrew Johnson, John Miller, Jermaine Reve, Eli Rogers. And Calvin Pryor & D Mount from Florida but not South Florida.

Basically the foundation of a solid team that beat the crap out of Miami (and UF).

Guys that beat the **** out of a horribly coached team? Yes

But that is not an impressive list of talent...

People around here act like he pulled Elite local talent like Amari, Cook, Kirkland, Sony...

He did a decent job of picking his spots and taking the leftovers of what UF, FSU, UM and the rest of the SEC didn't covet

Not an impressive list of talent? They are in the NFL.... All that shows is that he is a great talent evaluator. And remember he was at Louisville you are not going to get the elite recruits of the area because it's Louisville and not Miami, UF, Fsu, osu, bama or lsu...

Broke, I gotta give it to you... Whether it be Golden or Strong... when you fall in love, you're all in

 

[Salt]

If you want talent to be developed, An elite talent evaluator, top 5 defense,and one who recruits well in south Florida, commands respect in the area then Charlie is the guy outside of Butch and it's not even close..... This fan base is clueless, people will b*tch and complain about whoever is hired... At everyone of his stops beside Texas he was extremely successful but people are not talking about that.... Or the fact that he everything working against when he took the job as well as below average talent...

Texas defense is currently ranked 87th. One slot above the immortal Mark D'Oritos, who is at 88th.

Yet 33 spots above a defense run by a guy named Leavitt some on here think would be homerun hire at DC

 

[Gatorhater]

Strong is like a girl everyone thought was very pretty. Then she arrived at the party and a few hours later she has not aged well. People trying to defend his losing at UT sound like people like myself defending Al for the first couple years. He is getting his rear kick at one of the top programs in the country and nothing indicates Miami will be different.

 

[crossover22[]_[]]

Strong is like a girl everyone thought was very pretty. Then she arrived at the party and a few hours later she has not aged well. People trying to defend his losing at UT sound like people like myself defending Al for the first couple years. He is getting his rear kick at one of the top programs in the country and nothing indicates Miami will be different.

Kind of like rich rod at Michigan? ......

 

[Rellyrell]

If you want talent to be developed, An elite talent evaluator, top 5 defense,and one who recruits well in south Florida, commands respect in the area then Charlie is the guy outside of Butch and it's not even close..... This fan base is clueless, people will b*tch and complain about whoever is hired... At everyone of his stops beside Texas he was extremely successful but people are not talking about that.... Or the fact that he everything working against when he took the job as well as below average talent...

Texas defense is currently ranked 87th. One slot above the immortal Mark D'Oritos, who is at 88th.

What was his rank at UF or Louisville with Florida recruits, I'll wait... Texas is devoid of talent right now... They have 6 freshman starting which is the most in the country...

I see you are back on your slurp status. Check it.....

Texas had two top 5 class and one top 20 class before Strong came on board. That's what he inheritted. Texas has out recruited EVERY SINGLE TEAM in the last 5 years....period. This is the same bull crap excuse people, like you, were using for Golden. He thought he was ready for the big stage, like Golden, b/c he did his thizzle in the AAC....then big boy conference called them up and they both got that @$# chewed up. So what now? You want to repeat history by hiring another failed AAC coach to run the U? You didn't get enough of Golden?

I don't care if Strong is black (and for the record, I'm black)....we need a someone who's a proven winner AT THIS LEVEL. F a lower tier level...that don't help me nor my Canes none. Man, get yo' mind right.

Yeah you do lol, Texas has not outrecruited Fsu, Alabama, lsu

Who cares, Brock? Is FSU, BAMA, and LSU on their schedule? You know who are on their schedule? TCU who avg. the 38th ranked class in the nation over the last 4 cycles. Baylor who avg. the 39th ranked class in the nation over the last 4 cycles. K State who avg. the 54th ranked class in the nation over the last 4 cycles. Iowa who avg. the 53rd ranked class in the nation over the last 4 cycles. Iowa St, who avg. the 68th ranked class in the nation over the last 4 cycles. OU, is the only team who's last 4 class rankings are on par w/ UT and they both avg. the 14th ranked classes in the nation.

Those are the teams that are mopping Charlie....So stop creating the sympathetic narrative that Charlie is devoid of talent. He's not, especially compare to all of teams they are getting smoked by. But those other teams that were mentioned w/ some of the worst classes in the nation out of Power 5 conferenced schools, you know what they all have in common? Decent to Great coaching. See, coaching overcomes talent any day of the week.

 

[UMFarArcher]

For those that are so vehemently opposed to Strong, would your stance change if you knew Butch wasn't a realistic option?

Also, name me another team other than Louisville who played the way the 'Canes of old played back in the day. They absolutely destroyed us a few years ago. They talked trash directly in our face and made our team look like a pinch of puzzies. They completely dismantled our team. Their defense played lights out. They showed no mercy. They took a dump on our squad and then buried our face in it. I was jealous. They stole our identity.

Teams take on the personality of their head coach. We could do much worse.

1. Butch is not only a realistic option, but probably all but announced.

2. Everyone destroyed us. Where you been the past four-point-five years?

3. No. We could NOT do much worse.

Other than that, good post.

 

[Rellyrell]

Texas defense is currently ranked 87th. One slot above the immortal Mark D'Oritos, who is at 88th.

What was his rank at UF or Louisville with Florida recruits, I'll wait... Texas is devoid of talent right now... They have 6 freshman starting which is the most in the country...

I see you are back on your slurp status. Check it.....

Texas had two top 5 class and one top 20 class before Strong came on board. That's what he inheritted. Texas has out recruited EVERY SINGLE TEAM in the last 5 years....period. This is the same bull crap excuse people, like you, were using for Golden. He thought he was ready for the big stage, like Golden, b/c he did his thizzle in the AAC....then big boy conference called them up and they both got that @$# chewed up. So what now? You want to repeat history by hiring another failed AAC coach to run the U? You didn't get enough of Golden?

I don't care if Strong is black (and for the record, I'm black)....we need a someone who's a proven winner AT THIS LEVEL. F a lower tier level...that don't help me nor my Canes none. Man, get yo' mind right.

Yeah you do lol, Texas has not outrecruited Fsu, Alabama, lsu

Think he was talking about in the Big 12.

Thank you, I had to correct my original statement in my post.

 

[theibisrules]

Charlie Strong can climb up a stepladder - and kiss my a$$.

wow aren't we feisty today

 

[5Ringz]

Strong > Mario bit Butch is a homerun hire.
Mario= meltdown and golden 2.0
Strong= some rumblings but some will be excited others will mope
Butch= crazy excited, fap worthy, shockwaves to be felt throughout the nation

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[Gables Cane]

For those that are so vehemently opposed to Strong, would your stance change if you knew Butch wasn't a realistic option?

Also, name me another team other than Louisville who played the way the 'Canes of old played back in the day. They absolutely destroyed us a few years ago. They talked trash directly in our face and made our team look like a pinch of puzzies. They completely dismantled our team. Their defense played lights out. They showed no mercy. They took a dump on our squad and then buried our face in it. I was jealous. They stole our identity.

Teams take on the personality of their head coach. We could do much worse.

1. Butch is not only a realistic option, but probably all but announced.

2. Everyone destroyed us. Where you been the past four-point-five years?

3. No. We could NOT do much worse.

Other than that, good post.

ah yes...the Butch slurpers are here to save the day.

Riddle me this anointed one...if Butch was such a freakin' slam dunk why hasn't he been hired? Why waste one additional precious second of recruiting? Why postpone the revamping of this putrid team any longer? Why haven't any other teams hired the mastermind?

Maybe...just a hunch...he ain't the guy!

Face it...Butch is the fallback option. Kinda like the girl with the big **** and the ugly face that nobody hits on until it's 2:00 am and all the pretty girls are spoken for...

 

[crossover22[]_[]]

Texas defense is currently ranked 87th. One slot above the immortal Mark D'Oritos, who is at 88th.

What was his rank at UF or Louisville with Florida recruits, I'll wait... Texas is devoid of talent right now... They have 6 freshman starting which is the most in the country...

I see you are back on your slurp status. Check it.....

Texas had two top 5 class and one top 20 class before Strong came on board. That's what he inheritted. Texas has out recruited EVERY SINGLE TEAM in the last 5 years....period. This is the same bull crap excuse people, like you, were using for Golden. He thought he was ready for the big stage, like Golden, b/c he did his thizzle in the AAC....then big boy conference called them up and they both got that @$# chewed up. So what now? You want to repeat history by hiring another failed AAC coach to run the U? You didn't get enough of Golden?

I don't care if Strong is black (and for the record, I'm black)....we need a someone who's a proven winner AT THIS LEVEL. F a lower tier level...that don't help me nor my Canes none. Man, get yo' mind right.

Yeah you do lol, Texas has not outrecruited Fsu, Alabama, lsu

Who cares, Brock? Is FSU, BAMA, and LSU on their schedule? You know who are on their schedule? TCU who avg. the 38th ranked class in the nation over the last 4 cycles. Baylor who avg. the 39th ranked class in the nation over the last 4 cycles. K State who avg. the 54th ranked class in the nation over the last 4 cycles. Iowa who avg. the 53rd ranked class in the nation over the last 4 cycles. Iowa St, who avg. the 68th ranked class in the nation over the last 4 cycles. OU, is the only team who's last 4 class rankings are on par w/ UT and they both avg. the 14th ranked classes in the nation.

Those are the teams that are mopping Charlie....So stop creating the sympathetic narrative that Charlie is devoid of talent. He's not, especially compare to all of teams they are getting smoked by. But those other teams that were mentioned w/ some of the worst classes in the nation out of Power 5 conferenced schools, you know what they all have in common? Decent to Great coaching. See, coaching overcomes talent any day of the week.

He just beat ou. Just saying

 

[deerob305]

Strong had Bridgewater and a good D and was successful.... imagine him with Kaaya and the talent we have on D.... he will do really well.... if it aint Butch, I want Strong or a mystery candidate (Gundy, Patterson)

 

[UMFarArcher]

For those that are so vehemently opposed to Strong, would your stance change if you knew Butch wasn't a realistic option?

Also, name me another team other than Louisville who played the way the 'Canes of old played back in the day. They absolutely destroyed us a few years ago. They talked trash directly in our face and made our team look like a pinch of puzzies. They completely dismantled our team. Their defense played lights out. They showed no mercy. They took a dump on our squad and then buried our face in it. I was jealous. They stole our identity.

Teams take on the personality of their head coach. We could do much worse.

1. Butch is not only a realistic option, but probably all but announced.

2. Everyone destroyed us. Where you been the past four-point-five years?

3. No. We could NOT do much worse.

Other than that, good post.

ah yes...the Butch slurpers are here to save the day.

Riddle me this anointed one...if Butch was such a freakin' slam dunk why hasn't he been hired? Why waste one additional precious second of recruiting? Why postpone the revamping of this putrid team any longer? Why haven't any other teams hired the mastermind?

Maybe...just a hunch...he ain't the guy!

Face it...Butch is the fallback option. Kinda like the girl with the big **** and the ugly face that nobody hits on until it's 2:00 am and all the pretty girls are spoken for...

You're not real good at mid and large business practices, are you?

I'm not wasting my time. I don't get paid to educate you.

There's this thing about contracts. Sometimes they need to be fulfilled. That's one reason no other coach has jumped ANYWHERE already!

Ever get out in the daylight?

How many OTHER coaches you seeing leave their teams and taking over other teams right now? Every had a job, and had a contract? Not just a coaching job, either.

The answer is obvious.

I'll leave the ugly girls at 2:00 AM to you.

I always walked out with the hot ones by nine.

 

[RiDLer80]

Charlie will get another year at Texas even if he gets destroyed in these next 2 weeks.

I pray he does. Then we don't have to worry about our incompetent AD offering him 3 M's after he was just fired for failing so miserably.

 

[Klamalama]

If you want talent to be developed, An elite talent evaluator, top 5 defense,and one who recruits well in south Florida, commands respect in the area then Charlie is the guy outside of Butch and it's not even close..... This fan base is clueless, people will b*tch and complain about whoever is hired... At everyone of his stops beside Texas he was extremely successful but people are not talking about that.... Or the fact that he everything working against when he took the job as well as below average talent...

Texas defense is currently ranked 87th. One slot above the immortal Mark D'Oritos, who is at 88th.

What was his rank at UF or Louisville with Florida recruits, I'll wait... Texas is devoid of talent right now... They have 6 freshman starting which is the most in the country...

If the cupboard is bare, Corch Charlie made it that way. Heard all this BS with Fraulden.

 

[michaeldiamond74]

If you want talent to be developed, An elite talent evaluator, top 5 defense,and one who recruits well in south Florida, commands respect in the area then Charlie is the guy outside of Butch and it's not even close..... This fan base is clueless, people will b*tch and complain about whoever is hired... At everyone of his stops beside Texas he was extremely successful but people are not talking about that though....Or the fact that he had everything working against him when he took the job as well as below average talent at best.... Regardless he is better than Cristobal by far. The Texas highschool schools SCOLDED him from trying to take 5 kids from Florida instead of "their" players. Let's be real Charlie would do GREAT at Miami and will fix all of the problems plaguing the program... Defense, penalty issues, winning at miami( much better talent than Texas by far on the team to begin with.....),recruiting in south Florida. Coaches trust Charlie...

Totally agree Brock.

 

[4th-and-14]

Iowa State SHUT OUT Texas! You telling me that awful ISU team has more talent than UT? And it's pretty **** hard to get shut out in today's game, especially in the B12.

And the 4 recruiting classes Strong inherited were ranked 24, 3, 3, and 2 (and the 24 was b/c they only had 15 spots to offer; it ranked 7th if adjust for that).

That's enough talent to not go 5-7, or to not score 1point against ISU

 

[michaeldiamond74]

Everyone is jumping on Strong's record at a talent poor Texas. Does everyone remember what JJ's record was in the Big 12 before coming to UM? My point is each job is different, each conference is different and wait for it. Each "fit" is different. All of our great teams had a kick *** defense. Strong can bring that with SFL talent. **** he could win with Coley as his OC. Not that I'm pulling for that.

I prefer Butch but let's not act like Strong wouldn't be a pretty **** good hire.