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Telling Gattis quotes from Feldman article on Michigan

Football coaches are almost always Alphas. Seems like the underlying problem is that Mario hired all of the offensive coaches and that left us with a coach teaching a new offense and players and coaches were never on he same page. This falls on Mario. Two things will happen, either Gattis is gone or he gets to select his staff. Either way, Mario created this mess. Without a Bowl game, this will resolve itself by the end of the month.
 
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AllCane305 said:
Not trying to defend the coaches. I want Gattis gone, but our D looks bad because of what we have. It is so hard to assess Steeles with these dudes man. We do need some coaches gone, but not sure Steele should be one of them. The players also can go with Gattis. They have no heart! Even if someone is not being coached properly, you can always see heart. None of these dudes have any.
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Players on offense are just as bad.
 
Liberty City El said:
My real genuine thoughts on the issue, no sarcasm this time...

Gattis IMO is NOT under any circumstances a fit with Miami & I don't think his Offense is anything special at all.

It works in the B1G because regionally they produce big roadgrading OL's that make the job that much easier for the RB's, but it's not a QB friendly Offense & is primarily predicated on dominating the LOS, which seems like exactly what you want, but the big issue I have with those style of Offenses is they have no counterpunch.

But beyond that, his actual play calling abilities are very suspect IMO in terms of his feel for the game & knowing when to & not to call certain plays. I also do not see any strategy in the sequencing, he's not setting the Defense up for anything, it's just a very surface level scheme that has to have certain types of players in order for it to work. It's not a one size fits all plug & play style that's transitional & works with interchangeable pieces, it's a formulated template that you have to recruit specifically for or else it will not work.

I personally prefer Offenses that are more malleable, hence why you see certain Offensive minded coaches have success at multiple stops with multiple style QB's/WR's etc.. I think it makes the most logical sense to have a system in place that doesn't cut in half the number of recruits you can target, meaning, having an Offense that is designed around spacing & speed without specific parameters that each player has to fit into mathematically increases the number of recruits you go after & attract, which widens the scope of the caliber of player you can bring in.

This is a Northern/Midwestern ball Offense & unfortunately we're a Southeastern team that has readily available access to smaller speedy types who are better in a more wide open setting.

The best way I can describe it is, imagine if Air Force or Army tried to run a conventional Offense & how much of a disaster that would be for them...

As to whether or not Gattis should be brought back, to me it's quite clearly absolutely not. But if you're Mario & you really believe you can win with that style of play & it's simply a matter of recruiting your players, then I can see why he might want to bring him back.

I think it will fail miserably & we'll still be a below .500 team or slightly above .500 in the 7-5 range at best...

But I also am always in favor of seeing Chaos happen, so why the **** not? Lol (That was a joke relax)
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Post is about as spot on as they get on this site. One question I have tho liberty is this. In the grand scheme of big ten slow Terrence warfare offenses, it is my opinion that gattis is garbage even in that arena. Do you feel the same? I see zero creativity. Every team seems to have our signals that’s how bad it is to me. It’s like playing Clemson every week
 
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Cane6 said:
Mario had to settle for Gattis….. big time

Change is coming
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he didnt have to settle for gattis. numerous insiders here said Mario had better candidates to choose from and he chose gattis. stop excusing a poor choice. he didn't land the better targets bc his ego got in the way. his own ego chose the position coaches before even interviewing play callers. hopefully we see a complete 180 this offseason in his approach otherwise youre not landing a good play caller
 
hoops156 said:
he didnt have to settle for gattis. numerous insiders here said Mario had better candidates to choose from and he chose gattis. stop excusing a poor choice. he didn't land the better targets bc his ego got in the way. his own ego chose the position coaches before even interviewing play callers. hopefully we see a complete 180 this offseason in his approach otherwise youre not landing a good play caller
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Your post isn’t accurate…… but believe what you want I don’t care

When Gattis is gone I’m going to bump your post tho
 
USAFCane88 said:
The problem is he learned from Saban and is trying to copy him. When does Saban hire an OC/DC and let them pick their staff? Saban micromanages everything and has made it work. We’ll see if Mario adjusts, but he’s just pulling **** out of the Saban playbook.
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He’s NOT Saban. That’s where his mistake is. Saban has a system that works in place, and just plugs in guys to run it. Of course having a **** load of 5-Stars helps, but he runs a wide open spread/RPO offense that passes to set up the run.

Mario should have taken the good things he learned from Saban and then added that to his great talent evaluation and recruiting skills. His schematic philosophy has proven to be the direct opposite of Saban’s.
 
moshated305 said:
Please tell me who the seasoned vet of an OC Gattis was going to bring with him? Michigan had to hire someone to help him and it's now obvious the added help is what propelled him to the Broyles Award. He could have brought someone with him in as analyst the same way Lashlee did but as far as I know he didn't.
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Huh? Gattis is our OC. I don’t understand your question.

My whole point is that Gattis should have never been hired, and Mario should not be such a control freak when it comes to hires and schemes.
 
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ItsAUThing.com said:
Mario was off on evaluating the talent and coachable players he had on this 2022 football team—and their inability to play the brand of football he's looking to build.

Gattis proved that with the horses in Michigan, his offense works. Hence the 12-2 season and CFP appearance against Georgia—all of which earned him the Broyles Award honor.

The blind spot was regarding Manny Diaz's soft team and the inability for these lazy, entitled kids to buy in and play a tougher brand of football—all parties involved failing regarding learning on the fly and finding a way out of this hot mess this season.

Gattis wasn't Cristobal's first choice and they obviously were in lockstep with the brand of football they both want to run; there was just a swing and a miss personnel-wise.

Safe bet that based on what they evaluated and wanted to implement they expected:


Bethune-Cookman — W
Southern Miss — W
Texas A&M — Toss Up
Middle Tennessee State —W
North Carolina — Toss Up
Virginia Tech — W
Duke — W
Virginia — W
Florida State — Toss Up
Georgia Tech — W
Clemson — L
Pitt — W

Somewhere around 8-4 and 9-3 was probably the belief—with an, if-all-goes-to-plan, a 10-2 run.

Then they looked under the hood and saw what they were dealing with and said, "Oh sh*t".

Once Miami lost to Middle Tennessee State, this thing was over. There's no coming back from a game like that. If kids were on the fence about believing at 2-1, losing to a glorified high school from Murfreesboro, Tennessee was the final nail in the coffin of this season, with this roster.
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Stop mentioning Manure... you guys love to use that excuse.. This **** is on Joshua Gattis a former Deamon Deacon who can't coach and alienates staff members and players with his play calling and attitude
 
Cane6 said:
Your post isn’t accurate…… but believe what you want I don’t care

When Gattis is gone I’m going to bump your post tho
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ok. go back to SWFLhurricane who has said he had other options and same w other insiders on here. he chose the big name. I believe gattis is gone too. hes too toxic to bring back
 
hoops156 said:
ok. go back to SWFLhurricane who has said he had other options and same w other insiders on here. he chose the big name. I believe gattis is gone too. hes too toxic to bring back
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I hate Gattis and was disappointed from day 1 and shared the feedback from my Michigan buddy here

I’m just as disappointed as you that Mario didn’t secure a better option that Gattis. But based on the sequence of events and other names Mario was after and talking to, as well as the McClendon hire at WR coach and Co-OC, I’m 100000% confident Gattis was no where close to Mario’s top choice

Hence why he has no issues cutting bait after 1yr
 
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