Telling Gattis quotes from Feldman article on Michigan

I didn’t & couldn’t read the article, but I’ll just say this:

A HC should be a HC; I think hiring Coordinators first, then support staff should always be the way to go, that way the OC/DC can be fully on board w/ who’s working w/ them.

I won’t fault Mario for hiring Gattis, b/c on paper, it appeared to be a great hire & I’m sure Gattis interviewed well. Who wouldn’t want a Broyles winner, that was the OC for a CFP team & a former Co-OC for a CFP Bama team? It looked good, & the greater majority on this board thought it would be a home run hire. The only two posters I can vividly recall having some ?’s about this hire were @BS85 & @305to954. I believe @SouthParkCane also had some reservations that I can recall from the “official hire” thread.

It’s clear he’s not a good fit here, but he legit ****ed me off when he was acting real tough trying to chew out X on the sidelines last game. But, I take full responsibility of his incompetence; totally forgot this dude played for my Chicago Bears for a brief moment & some of that incompetency & 80’s O may have stuck w/ him down at Halas Hall.

Anyways, it’s on Mario to fix this completely this off season. Revamp the roster & this staff. If MSU can go from **** to heaven in 2 yrs, so can we.
Marios biggest mistake was not hiring gattis but hiring the position coaches and then forcing his play callers to work with them on both sides of the ball. hes not a play caller by trade (Mario). let the play callers decide who they need not Mario. literally recruit and develop OL. thats your calling card.
 
Advertisement
Gattis IMO is NOT under any circumstances a fit with Miami & I don't think his Offense is anything special at all.

It works in the B1G because regionally they produce big roadgrading OL's that make the job that much easier for the RB's, but it's not a QB friendly Offense & is primarily predicated on dominating the LOS, which seems like exactly what you want, but the big issue I have with those style of Offenses is they have no counterpunch.

Cristobal must've figured he and Mirabal could fix (or at least cover-up) our OL issues enough to where the scheme would be successful.

But no coach dead or living was repairing that particular mess in a year's time
 
Last edited:
Advertisement
Mooreheads O at PSU with McSorely, Barkley, & Godwin was nasty. This is nowhere near that offense. Doesn’t look like it whatsoever.
If we had those players esp Barkley we would look a lot of different I bet
 
This O is a cross between Pat Nix and.... Oh forget it. This O is so bad it can't be a cross between any known offenses. If Pat Nix and Dan Enos had a love child O, it would be better than this.

This current O couldn't score on Mark D'Onofrio's D.
The o is like the offensive version of the famous dno wefence
 
My real genuine thoughts on the issue, no sarcasm this time...

Gattis IMO is NOT under any circumstances a fit with Miami & I don't think his Offense is anything special at all.

It works in the B1G because regionally they produce big roadgrading OL's that make the job that much easier for the RB's, but it's not a QB friendly Offense & is primarily predicated on dominating the LOS, which seems like exactly what you want, but the big issue I have with those style of Offenses is they have no counterpunch.

But beyond that, his actual play calling abilities are very suspect IMO in terms of his feel for the game & knowing when to & not to call certain plays. I also do not see any strategy in the sequencing, he's not setting the Defense up for anything, it's just a very surface level scheme that has to have certain types of players in order for it to work. It's not a one size fits all plug & play style that's transitional & works with interchangeable pieces, it's a formulated template that you have to recruit specifically for or else it will not work.

I personally prefer Offenses that are more malleable, hence why you see certain Offensive minded coaches have success at multiple stops with multiple style QB's/WR's etc.. I think it makes the most logical sense to have a system in place that doesn't cut in half the number of recruits you can target, meaning, having an Offense that is designed around spacing & speed without specific parameters that each player has to fit into mathematically increases the number of recruits you go after & attract, which widens the scope of the caliber of player you can bring in.

This is a Northern/Midwestern ball Offense & unfortunately we're a Southeastern team that has readily available access to smaller speedy types who are better in a more wide open setting.

The best way I can describe it is, imagine if Air Force or Army tried to run a conventional Offense & how much of a disaster that would be for them...

As to whether or not Gattis should be brought back, to me it's quite clearly absolutely not. But if you're Mario & you really believe you can win with that style of play & it's simply a matter of recruiting your players, then I can see why he might want to bring him back.

I think it will fail miserably & we'll still be a below .500 team or slightly above .500 in the 7-5 range at best...

But I also am always in favor of seeing Chaos happen, so why the **** not? Lol (That was a joke relax)
We did this dance before. Richt was succesful in Georgia but he needed an elite o line to do so.

Enos had success at Arkansas but he needed an elite o line to do so.

People said he could take over the O of Alabama because…an elite o line.

Are there any OCs that perform POORLY under an elite O line?
 
I mean if anybody actually read the literal quotes the OP put, there was divide among the coaches between Gattis AND THE LEGACY IDEAS... I mean that's not exactly an indictment on Gattis really if the guy is saying Gattis was trying to have a more present day offense but other coaches on staff didn't want to.
Obviously the discord among the coaches is the actual issue there. But Just saying a lot of people are reading this and acting like this is an indictment on Gattis' offensive scheme or something, when I actually don't think those quotes are at all.
 
It definitely does.

Most of the CIS fan fiction narratives are busted in this article.

Harbaugh was heavily involved in the offense, as was Weiss and Moore and that is why it was successful...this article says it was the exact opposite and their involvement led Poggi to believe that is what would lead to the offense failing.
Gattis was not the playcaller...this article says he was.
Gattis was the source of toxicity...this article paints it in the other direction that the non-playcallers were the source of it (somewhat corroborates his weird social media posts after leaving Michigan) and needed some come to Jesus meeting led by Poggi to get on the same page.
Gattis has a massive ego...this article paints him as a guy that's not always confident, but is a team player "He’s genuinely there for the betterment of Jim and the program. His heart is all in it."

Maybe the article is lying or Poggi is painting this picture differently now. idk.

It does corroborate that Gattis is probably a tough guy to like. I'm sure the players here ******* hate the guy...but Will Mallory just came out and said the coaches do a good job of keeping it simple...but CIS told me it was all too complicated.

Ultimately, this guy is going to have to fall on the sword and be gone because this is a results business and the results are terrible. It doesn't seem like a fit. But it didn't seem like a fit at Michigan and this article showed that with a little mediation from an adult in the room they were able to win big. It is a shame this season has gone off the rails...I feel the team could likely use a little Poggi mediation well before this point of the season.

The CIS braintrust thought Enos was terrible (he was here), but he seems to be doing just fine at his next stop.

Reminds me of the narratives this fanbase had about Joe Brady...and even when shown articles and quotes from people that know what they are talking about, still did not understand this guys role at LSU. Would respond and say the exact opposite of the article would say.
Don't care about any of this. 14 points a game against Power 5 teams and 3 games with no TDs is what I care about. His job is to put points on the board and he's not doing. I don't care if he's an ******* or the nicest guy in the world, his offense here is atrocious and he needs to be shown the door.
 
Advertisement
Wonder if he pairs back up with Joe Moorhead at Akron. Would be ironic to have both of Mario’s former OCs at one school
 
We did this dance before. Richt was succesful in Georgia but he needed an elite o line to do so.

Enos had success at Arkansas but he needed an elite o line to do so.

People said he could take over the O of Alabama because…an elite o line.

Are there any OCs that perform POORLY under an elite O line?
Brian Ferentz
Bobby Engram
Rick Scangarello
Tavita Pritchard
Jumbo Fisher/ Darrell ****ey
Billy Napier/ Rob Sale
Jay Johnson/ Chris Kapilovic
 
Feldman just published an article on Harbaugh’s consigliere who was hired last year and his first order of business? Fixing the massive divide among the offensive staff, mainly between Gattis and other O staffers…

They fixed the issues, at least temporarily given how the season ended up, but it wasn’t enough to keep Gattis on staff or prevent Gattis from ripping his former employer on his way out. Also quite clear which side of that divide came out in a better position…

“…He watched how Gattis and his assistants interacted and quickly detected a clear division in the room between the coaches who were with Gattis and those who were not.

“It was shocking how apparent that was,” Poggi says. If that didn’t get resolved, he was sure Michigan was going to stink on offense, and if that was indeed the case, the Wolverines were in deep trouble. It was time to intervene.

“There’s support here, but it’s divided between Josh and what he wants to do, and some other legacy ideas.” To Poggi, Gattis knew the system that he’d learned under Joe Moorhead well, but several other assistants weren’t on board.

“We have a 60-40 room here. And we’re gonna fail as an organization because of this,” Poggi said.

Feldman just published an article on Harbaugh’s consigliere who was hired last year and his first order of business? Fixing the massive divide among the offensive staff, mainly between Gattis and other O staffers…

They fixed the issues, at least temporarily given how the season ended up, but it wasn’t enough to keep Gattis on staff or prevent Gattis from ripping his former employer on his way out. Also quite clear which side of that divide came out in a better position…

“…He watched how Gattis and his assistants interacted and quickly detected a clear division in the room between the coaches who were with Gattis and those who were not.

“It was shocking how apparent that was,” Poggi says. If that didn’t get resolved, he was sure Michigan was going to stink on offense, and if that was indeed the case, the Wolverines were in deep trouble. It was time to intervene.

“There’s support here, but it’s divided between Josh and what he wants to do, and some other legacy ideas.” To Poggi, Gattis knew the system that he’d learned under Joe Moorhead well, but several other assistants weren’t on board.

“We have a 60-40 room here. And we’re gonna fail as an organization because of this,” Poggi said.

Were was this quote when Gattis was announced?
 
Back
Top