Talent of Teams: Miami ‘01 vs Bama ‘18

Also Mario spent 3 years under Saban learning how his program was operated… why would he lean on Butch Davis “more” for guidance on how to run a fb program in this era?
Mario spent 3yrs under Butch....and another yr (01) with what Butch built....Stop your stupidity....Mario talks to Butch on the regular (close friends)..alot more often than Saban. Butch, not Saban, gave Mario his start in 98....about the same time Saban was coming down to Greentree to watch how Butch's teams are coached.....
 
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It’s fair to say Alabama under Saban has fielded multiple teams that would give the 01 Miami team problems. They have a longer history of hoarding talent then the couple years Butch did it at Miami before he left for the fckn Browns??
Saban has also fielded those teams with a budget similar to an NFL franchise, give any half assed coach those kind of resources and you **** well better be winning titles.
 
Nick Saban is a better coach than Butch Davis, in every aspect of the game.
But not in recruiting...evaluating and developing...and certainly not in DL coaching....Butch succeeded in the NFL by taking the Browns to the playoffs for the 1st time in 50yrs...and Won 2 SB Rings at Dallas as a DC....While Saban was close to getting body slammed by several NFL All Pros....
 
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Right, but you implied Mario was following what he learned about team building from Butch more than so Saban, when that is antithetical to everything Mario has said and also just doesn’t make much sense considering Butch amassed his talent over 20 years ago and recruiting has changed tremendously since.



It certainly remains to be seen what happens in the League long term, but these are some of the players on the 2018 Bama team:

Mac Jones
Jalen Hurts
Tua Tagovailoa

Damien Harris
Josh Jacobs
Najee Harris

Jerry Jeudy
Jaylen Waddle
Henry Ruggs
DeVonta Smith
Irv Smith Jr.

Patrick Surtain Jr.
Trevon Diggs
Xavier McKinney
Quinnen Williams
Raekwon Davis

That’s an insane collection of talent.
It is.

But lemme put in my 2 cents.

Hurts sux. I'm a Birds fan.
I'm not gonna get into Tua, he's been ripped to shreds already on this board.
Mac, the jury is still put on him, he was a rookie.

Jacobs is overhyped. An overhyped Trent Richardson. Haven't heard much from Damien Harris, only Bama back that's worth talking about besides Shaun Alexander and Freight train Henry on that list is Najee and I'm not sold on him, either.

Jeudy, he's good, but he has the drops. Maybe a change of scenery from Denver to a good team and we can asses this one later. Ruggs gonna end up playing with Adam Sandler and Steve Austin in jail. NO DEVONTA SMITH SLANDER. Slim Reaper would've ate with our 98-00 Canes. Waddle... I mean... 🤷🏿‍♂️
Irv is good, but I can name a lot of TEs better than him.
Surtain Jr may be a HOF CB. I like him.
Diggs is the Jamie's Winston of DBs. I don't know about the other 2, so that tells you what I think about em.

Imma repeat what Colin said, and what several others have said. Alabama produces guys who do good in the NFL.
MIAMI PRODUCES GUYS WHO DOMINATE THE NFL.
I don't see ANY HOF caliber players on that 2018 team, maybe Surtain Jr.
Advantage: BUTCH ******* DAVIS.

Don't get me wrong, good debate my friend, you know it's always love. But man, you a Cane, don't disrespect that roster Butch built.
Bama has a system. Many former Bama players say that, then say it's easy when the go pro. They kinda take it for granted and some slack off.
That 98-00 roster were full of kids who wanted it and were dogs. They were misfits. They wanted to prove everyone wrong. They were angry mfers who felt the world was against them and wanted to prove everyone wrong. Then go to the NFL and dominated. Butch taught them kids not to take that for granted. They were just built different when they put that U on.
It's expected to win at Bama, they didn't expect us to won and didn't want us to win, it's just different. But that 2018 Bama team ain't got **** on that 98-00 team.
My two cents.
 
We really ****ting on this U?

Shame.

@SWFLHurricane man tell Butch that I said thank you. I love what he built here, it can never be repeated. He did it without bagmen.. HE did that. I appreciate it and that's why I love this U. And tell him to tell Mario I got the upmost faith in him and know he's gonna build something special, better than lil Nicky Satan and I DON'T CARE WTF @TUSKtimes has to say.

ALL I GIVE A FÜCK ABOUT IS THIS U.

I really think more of us in this so-called "Canes family" need to do the same.

Argue with that.
 
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Here's Saban coming down to see Butch at FIU in 2018, to get more pointers...that would be 5 times Saban has sought him out...More facts...
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Here's Saban coming down to see Butch at FIU in 2018, to get more pointers...that would be 5 times Saban has sought him out...More facts...View attachment 178887
I don’t wanna be attacked so I’m letting you know I won’t respond after this.. but smart men often times seek out advice because why? It’s the smart thing to do. And butch is undoubtedly a valuable resource .. butch also can’t tie nicks shoes as a coach. Both things can be true
 
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I don’t wanna be attacked so I’m letting you know I won’t respond after this.. but smart men often times seek out advice because why? It’s the smart thing to do. And butch is undoubtedly a valuable resource .. butch also can’t tie nicks shoes as a coach. Both things can be true
I can give you that.

That's a law of power.
 
I don’t wanna be attacked so I’m letting you know I won’t respond after this.. but smart men often times seek out advice because why? It’s the smart thing to do. And butch is undoubtedly a valuable resource .. butch also can’t tie nicks shoes as a coach. Both things can be true
This should end this debate. Because both sides should be able to agree on this post.
 
Here's Saban coming down to see Butch at FIU in 2018, to get more pointers...that would be 5 times Saban has sought out
I don’t wanna be attacked so I’m letting you know I won’t respond after this.. but smart men often times seek out advice because why? It’s the smart thing to do. And butch is undoubtedly a valuable resource in sharp.. butch also can’t tie nicks shoes as a coach. Both things can be true
Can't tie Nick's shoes??....Lol....Saban didn't do Sh*t before Bama and their $$$$$$.... Nothing....While Nicky was mired in mediocrity at MSU and Toledo....Butch was wearing SB Rings and putting together the Greatest team of all time with empty pockets...and a BOT that was breathing down his neck at every little F-ing meaningless expenditure....and the NCAA Praying UM would F up one more time...Butch didn't need to cheat to succeed....
 
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Here's Saban coming down to see Butch at FIU in 2018, to get more pointers...that would be 5 times Saban has sought out

Can't tie Nick's shoes??....Lol....Saban didn't do Sh*t before Bama and their $$$$$$.... Nothing....While Nicky was mired in mediocrity at MSU and Toledo....Butch was wearing SB Rings and putting together the Greatest team of all time with empty pockets...and a BOT that was breathing down his neck at every little F-ing meaningless expenditure....and the NCAA Praying UM would F up one more time...Butch didn't need to cheat to succeed....
If my niece was a boy she would be my nephew. Let’s talk about what is instead of what isn’t, nick is nick. Butch is butch. Butch is a legend. Nick is the greatest
 
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