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Takeaway from the coach’s roundtable on ESPNU

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D$, you should have known this would devolve into a typical John Madden, "yeah, bro, but the OL..." circus. LSU's OL was trash forever. It suddenly and miraculously improved when the scheme evolved into a modern one that spread the field and made it harder for defenses to just tee off on that predictable **** they ran forever.

Nevermind what successful HCs were emphasizing during the broadcast, it's the OL bro!
 
DMoney said:
ESPNU replayed the CFP title game with Mike Gundy, Gary Patterson, Derek Mason and Jeff Hadley (BC coach and former OSU DC) on commentary. They were watching the game live and the conversation had a ton of insight into how big-time coaches see the game.

As a Canes fan, one aspect jumped out to me: they were infatuated with LSU’s receivers. They all kept coming back to that advantage and why it made LSU impossible to defend. At the same time, Alabama has shifted from a traditional power team to a team built around its elite WRs. It is a new era.

Lashlee’s system should help maximize what we have at WR, which is tops in the Coastal. But it is becoming clear we won’t be Miami until we have true #1 WRs.
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So you’re saying our talent needs to be upgraded?
 
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KrazyCane said:
A #1WR will emerge if the system is what it’s suppose to be. LSU always had elite WRs and they never lived up to the hype until Joe Brady came along. Same can be said about Alabama that only knew how to use Julio Jones as an extra blocker when he was playing for them.
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He had 80 catches for 1200+ yards his last year there. Sure he was still underused, but he did more than block
 
LSU went from mediocre to incredible on offense in the span of one season despite returning a majority of their offensive starters. If you think it was because the offensive line suddenly got great out of nowhere, you need to just give up on football and get into baking or something.
 
DTP said:
LSU went from mediocre to incredible on offense in the span of one season despite returning a majority of their offensive starters. If you think it was because the offensive line suddenly got great out of nowhere, you need to just give up on football and get into baking or something.
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BRADY, Joe
 
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That's why Lashlee was so high on my list for OC's.

Because at SMU he took a WR group full of mid-tier 3-stars & transformed them into guys that put up big time numbers & were the main catalyst into having Shane Buechele have his best season & SMU winning 10 games for the first time since 1984.

The game has evolved & smart coaches have found the loophole in the system to scheme the WR's open & put them in the most advantageous situations possible to force Defenses back on their heels. The 3 yards & a cloud of dust era is dead, even power run teams like Wisconsin & Boston College have evolved & integrated more tempo into their offensive systems.

Because the high octane offense have so many possessions per game 70+ plays, the old school ball control style play is only gonna leave your Defense at a disadvantage if you can't score, because playing conservative & not stretching the field just puts the opposing Offense back on the field & gives them more possessions to widen the lead in a game.

It's an adapt or die type game now & we've refused to adapt for the last decade, thus we've been dead.

The game is Basketball on grass now, quick attack, fast moving, inside zone runs & spraying it all over the field & using the deep ball to pull Safeties out of the box. The style of offense Enox had us running played right into the Defenses hand, it didn't force them to make any decisions, all they had to do was play double High, load the box & sit on everything underneath because we ran way too many bunch formations & they knew by the time the QB would be in his hitch they would have a defender in the backfield after a long 5/7-step drop.

The fact we never once had a 4-wide set of JT4, Wiggins, Pope & Harley all on the field at the same time was criminal. All that **** speed & we refused to use it because we had an OC who wanted to have a 1990's unnecessarily complex offense that ironically was the least productive offense we've ever had.

What Joe Brady figured out quickly at LSU was, we got a stable full of 4/5-star WR's, nobody in college football has the personnel to cover these guys, let's use'em.
 
Liberty City El said:
That's why Lashlee was so high on my list for OC's.

Because at SMU he took a WR group full of mid-tier 3-stars & transformed them into guys that put up big time numbers & were the main catalyst into having Shane Buechele have his best season & SMU winning 10 games for the first time since 1984.

The game has evolved & smart coaches have found the loophole in the system to scheme the WR's open & put them in the most advantageous situations possible to force Defenses back on their heels. The 3 yards & a cloud of dust era is dead, even power run teams like Wisconsin & Boston College have evolved & integrated more tempo into their offensive systems.

Because the high octane offense have so many possessions per game 70+ plays, the old school ball control style play is only gonna leave your Defense at a disadvantage if you can't score, because playing conservative & not stretching the field just puts the opposing Offense back on the field & gives them more possessions to widen the lead in a game.

It's an adapt or die type game now & we've refused to adapt for the last decade, thus we've been dead.

The game is Basketball on grass now, quick attack, fast moving, inside zone runs & spraying it all over the field & using the deep ball to pull Safeties out of the box. The style of offense Enox had us running played right into the Defenses hand, it didn't force them to make any decisions, all they had to do was play double High, load the box & sit on everything underneath because we ran way too many bunch formations & they knew by the time the QB would be in his hitch they would have a defender in the backfield after a long 5/7-step drop.

The fact we never once had a 4-wide set of JT4, Wiggins, Pope & Harley all on the field at the same time was criminal. All that **** speed & we refused to use it because we had an OC who wanted to have a 1990's unnecessarily complex offense that ironically was the least productive offense we've ever had.

What Joe Brady figured out quickly at LSU was, we got a stable full of 4/5-star WR's, nobody in college football has the personnel to cover these guys, let's use'em.
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Brady is a genius. He was a master at getting the matchups he wanted. He would move Jefferson/Chase/Moss/CEH/Marshall around the formation to get them away from teams CB1/2 and isolate them on nickel cbs/safeties/sometimes OLBs.
 
DTP said:
LSU went from mediocre to incredible on offense in the span of one season despite returning a majority of their offensive starters. If you think it was because the offensive line suddenly got great out of nowhere, you need to just give up on football and get into baking or something.
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People think they're being smart with that John Madden "it's all about the OL" **** in every football discussion. But, most of the time, they just look like dopey parakeets.
 
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The Franchise said:
People think they're being smart with that John Madden "it's all about the OL" **** in every football discussion. But, most of the time, they just look like dopey parakeets.
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The funny thing is, outside of a short 3 year run, Miami never had a great offensive line. We've never been a "line up and run the ball down their throat" type of team outside of that tiny window in the early 2000's. The offenses under Howard, Jimmy and Dennis were cutting edge, game changers. Everyone was running a wishbone option and Miami was throwing it downfield to speedy receivers. Then when everyone started catching on to the "pro style" passing game, Erickson upped the ante and went one back. That **** was ahead of it's time. After Erickson left, we've just had a string of conservative pro-style offensive coordinators who are only as good as the linemen they can recruit. We've been saying "if we only had a good O-line" for 18 years now. Maybe we should start tailoring our offense to the types of players we normally recruit instead of hoping against hope that we can sign a bunch of out of state 5 star offensive linemen every year.
 
Fatboycane said:
Also means we have to stop missing on guys like Amari Cooper, Jeudy etc
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Go look at LSU's starting WR's 247 history and compare it to ours.

As I've stated, we haven't not been developing talent or using it properly for years. Justin Jefferson was a borderline 3 star guy and he's going in the 1st round in this year's draft for LSU. We have a guy who was the #5 ranked WR in the nation barely getting drafted in Jeff Thomas. Mark Pope looks great in shorts, while JaMarr Chase looks great in pads. We've absolutely wasted talent here since 06 and its' not even close.
 
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I watched a few LSU games last year. I am far from an expert but in every game I found myself thinking about how great their route combos were, and how physically superior their WRs were to the DBs they faced.

Both elements were exceptional.
 
Nah....... LSU = Great WR + a great QB + a beautiful and modern mind calling plays on offense + strong and good OL = success

Alabama has all the same ingredients.
QB, OL and OC more important
 
Rellyrell said:
Go look at LSU's starting WR's 247 history and compare it to ours.

As I've stated, we haven't not been developing talent or using it properly for years. Justin Jefferson was a borderline 3 star guy and he's going in the 1st round in this year's draft for LSU. We have a guy who was the #5 ranked WR in the nation barely getting drafted in Jeff Thomas. Mark Pope looks great in shorts, while JaMarr Chase looks great in pads. We've absolutely wasted talent here since 06 and its' not even close.
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And those players looked nothing like they did this year before the new offensive system. That matters in all of this discussion of what we have or don’t have at receiver . Yeah Justin Jefferson was pretty productive in 2018 however he was much more productive in 2019 with joe Brady new offensive system
 
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