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AUcane said:
yep, dallas/houston are the most similar demo of kids as sofla kids, imo. Swagger can talk to you ad nauseum about how the public school system has changed drastically in the last 20 years. That said, that's an area we need to draw from. Those kids won't be phased by coming here. sAme with New Orleans kids.
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No doubt, but Houston even more. Houston is the only part of the country that remotely resembles our demography.
 
DMoney said:
The Christian Williams transfer highlights a couple things. First, Rumph needs to do a better job recruiting corners. There are plenty of threads on this topic. The other is a broader reality about Miami recruiting: we need to stop wasting time with small-town players.

Obviously, there is a ton of talent in small towns. Look at the SEC and the Big 10. But for Miami, they are hard to get, hard to keep, and we usually can't sign the good ones. They get homesick and there is a culture gap. Williams is the latest example.

Since the 2010 Draft, we've had 51 kids drafted that signed with Miami out of high school. Thirty-five (69%) were from South Florida. Here are the rest:

Shaquille Quarterman- Jacksonville
Deejay Dallas- Brunswick
Michael Jackson- Birmingham
Chris Herndon- Atlanta
Braxton Berrios- Raleigh, NC
David Njoku- Essex County, NJ
Rayshawn Jenkins- St. Petersburg
Corn Elder- Nashville
Al-Quadin Muhammad- Bergen County (NYC suburb)
Brad Kaaya- Los Angeles
Anthony Chickillo- Tampa
Seantrel Henderson- St. Paul, Minnesota
Mike James- Davenport, Florida
Allen Bailey- Darien, Georgia
Colin McCarthy- Clearwater
Jason Fox- Fort Worth, Texas
Dedrick Epps- Richmond Virginia

So that's a total of two country kids (James and Bailey) out of 51 total and 17 non-local NFL players. It's just not a high rate of return. Let's focus on cities 100K population or more.
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I really hope we have someone inside the program doing this sort of analysis. Smarter is better, I'd rather have snipers than the throw **** at the wall types...

Go Canes!
 
I don't believe this narrative at all. This ain't the 1990 canes teams. There's very few bad boys. Nobody in the city gives a F about the team anymore. 30yrs ago club owners would probably have UM players in the door before even Dolphin players.

Most of these kids spend their nights playing Playstation. Coral Gables isn't scaring anyone off.
 
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AUcane said:
yep, dallas/houston are the most similar demo of kids as sofla kids, imo. Swagger can talk to you ad nauseum about how the public school system has changed drastically in the last 20 years. That said, that's an area we need to draw from. Those kids won't be phased by coming here. sAme with New Orleans kids.
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I mean..... ad nauseum? C'mon dog.

I'll try to be more concise :p
 
AUcane said:
yep, dallas/houston are the most similar demo of kids as sofla kids, imo. Swagger can talk to you ad nauseum about how the public school system has changed drastically in the last 20 years. That said, that's an area we need to draw from. Those kids won't be phased by coming here. sAme with New Orleans kids.
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I just wouldn’t go to west Texas. You can go anywhere in southeast Texas for the most part and get Miami swagger kids. From orange, port Arthur to Beaumont all the way back up past Houston.. those kids would fit in at Miami.
 
r0fl_57omp7 said:
My bad DMoney, read it wrong, but you should update the post to include DJ Dallas as one of the small towners. I'm torn because he was my favorite cane as of recently.
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I’m not that familiar with Georgia, but the metro there is over 100K. Not huge but not what I would call small town.
 
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gogeta4 said:
Throw some recruiting money around in New Orleans and the 757 in Virginia area ASAP.

We can regularly pull an atlanta area kid that we zone in on in my opinion.

Ive been saying New Orleans should be a go..LSU cant sign everybody and those NO kids like Miami area or big cities.

The country kids havent been good to us foreal.

Need to go back up to NJ and NYC to fill gaps. We have gotten over the last 2 classes from there as well. I'd stay away from Chicago and Detroit @DMoney.

New Orleans, Houston/Dallas, Atlanta, Tidewater, nyc/nj, Las Vegas.

I wouldnt even be dipping into cali much. Stick to those areas listed out of state.
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I would mostly skip the new york area except a rare gem. There is not enough talent.

Agree to skip California as well. I'd put Houston, Atlanta, Hampton Roads in that order. I like New Orleans but L$U has such an establishment in that state, you've got to choose your time wisely. I like the Vegas idea, but would again be really careful. DMV is intriguing but a very crowded recruiting house.

Don't really understand listing New York City. It's garbage talent wise. Garbage.
 
SouthParkCane said:
I just wouldn’t go to west Texas. You can go anywhere in southeast Texas for the most part and get Miami swagger kids. From orange, port Arthur to Beaumont all the way back up past Houston.. those kids would fit in at Miami.
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Unless Eric Winston, KC Jones, or Bubba Franks have superstar kids anyway..... come to think of it, our West Texas hit rate might be as good as it is anywhere in the country *shrug* Tory Mitchell fits D$'s description to the letter though. Insane talent but probably wasn't culturally a fit for Miami.
 
Andrew said:
As of last year, Daphne Alabama has four active players on active NFL rosters.
www.al.com

Daphne High School adds another player to NFL roster

Eric Lee became the fourth former Daphne High School player on the active roster of an NFL team when the Buffalo Bills brought him up from their practice squad on Friday afternoon.
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Three of whom stayed in Alabama for college.

It’s not a question of ability. Small towns are loaded with talent. They just haven’t been signing and/or performing at Miami for the past decade.

It’s a culture issue.
 
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Andrew said:
As of last year, Daphne Alabama has four active players on active NFL rosters.
www.al.com

Daphne High School adds another player to NFL roster

Eric Lee became the fourth former Daphne High School player on the active roster of an NFL team when the Buffalo Bills brought him up from their practice squad on Friday afternoon.
www.al.com www.al.com
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And their HC, Kenny King, is former NFL player as well.

But, as D$ said, he also played for Bama
 
Recruiting is now a full time job for every recruit and active player. Blame it on small towns all you want but a better CB coach would've had a replacement on the depth chart or convinced the kid to stay. The OOS reaches aren't the root of the problem.

Current Miami football culture is old men dusting off their memorabilia and us constantly trying make ex players from that era coaches.....It's not working.
 
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montecane said:
City size is an over simplification. There are much more important metrics for future success is HS like competition, attitude, work ethic, film, measurable, and analytics.
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It’s not about talent. Small towns have tons of good players.

It’s about who we can persuade to come to Miami. It seems we have trouble attracting and keeping good small town kids, which makes sense since we are one of the biggest and most unique metros in the nation.
 
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