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JHallCanes said:
I actually for some reason 100% expect Ivey to be listed as CB1 this spring
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UMFarArcher said:
The "SITUATION" occurred before December and January.

The "SITUATION" was determined - or should have been determined before November.

And moves should have been made before December and January.

You can't get around this.

You're saying YOU didn't know our coaching staff sucked butt until December and January?

I'd say I'm not the ignorant one here . . .
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You sir are very poorly informed. You are aware that Gattis was fired 'WITH CAUSE' and that had NOTHING TO DO WITH FOOTBALL? Do you understand the implications? The "situation" for which he was terminated had "0" to do with his coaching effectiveness and everything to do with "other matters" not germaine to football. If you can't figure that out ... just stop replying.
 
UMFarArcher said:
The "SITUATION" occurred before December and January.

The "SITUATION" was determined - or should have been determined before November.

And moves should have been made before December and January.

You can't get around this.

You're saying YOU didn't know our coaching staff sucked butt until December and January?

I'd say I'm not the ignorant one here . . .
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The "SITUATION" wasn't reported until January.
 
Rickd said:
You sir are very poorly informed. You are aware that Gattis was fired 'WITH CAUSE' and that had NOTHING TO DO WITH FOOTBALL? Do you understand the implications? The "situation" for which he was terminated had "0" to do with his coaching effectiveness and everything to do with "other matters" not germaine to football. If you can't figure that out ... just stop replying.
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Don't be wilfully a silly nilly

EVERYONE knows Gattis was fired "WITH CAUSE."

It had nothing to do with Football? What? ****, he was a football Offensive Coordinator fraud.

I was talking about FOOTBALL aspects of his employment - and that alone called for his termination. He was useless as tiddies on a tomcat. We could have let our QB's draw up plays in the grass and done better.

You're so invested in your "hush hush knowledge" of the details of "WITH CAUSE" you can't make a connection with FOOTBALL - and TERMINATION - and REPLACEMENT - and the unnecessary DELAYS that bring us to today.

Lay off the Everclear - you fried too many cells - or you're a soyboy attorney to be so narrow.

I don't give a tinker's dam why he was ultimately fired - he needed firing for regressing our already disastrous offense.
TheOriginalCane said:
The "SITUATION" wasn't reported until January.
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The SItuation was known among most here - situation being - he wasn't an offensive coordinator at all. We all knew this in October - everything after that was more of the same.

He couldn't coach. He couldn't call plays - well - he was great at the stupid ones. He took us backward - from our QB - to our line - to our receivers.


If you wake up one morning to whiz, and everything is fire - the worst struggle to get it to even drip - you surely recall that quickie in the alley three days prior - and realize you have the clap.

You don't need to wait and put things off just because there may be a more opportune time to get your shots some weeks down the road. Hesitation makes everything worse.

So we got lucky - "WITH CAUSE."

At what price?
 
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UMFarArcher said:
Don't be wilfully a silly nilly

EVERYONE knows Gattis was fired "WITH CAUSE."

It had nothing to do with Football? What? ****, he was a football Offensive Coordinator fraud.

I was talking about FOOTBALL aspects of his employment - and that alone called for his termination. He was useless as tiddies on a tomcat. We could have let our QB's draw up plays in the grass and done better.

You're so invested in your "hush hush knowledge" of the details of "WITH CAUSE" you can't make a connection with FOOTBALL - and TERMINATION - and REPLACEMENT - and the unnecessary DELAYS that bring us to today.

Lay off the Everclear - you fried too many cells - or you're a soyboy attorney to be so narrow.

I don't give a tinker's dam why he was ultimately fired - he needed firing for regressing our already disastrous offense.


The SItuation was known among most here - situation being - he wasn't an offensive coordinator at all. We all knew this in October - everything after that was more of the same.

He couldn't coach. He couldn't call plays - well - he was great at the stupid ones. He took us backward - from our QB - to our line - to our receivers.


If you wake up one morning to whiz, and everything is fire - the worst struggle to get it to even drip - you surely recall that quickie in the alley three days prior - and realize you have the clap.

You don't need to wait and put things off just because there may be a more opportune time to get your shots some weeks down the road. Hesitation makes everything worse.

So we got lucky - "WITH CAUSE."

At what price?
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Look, I realize you come from a command-structure job background, which I can respect.

But not all workplaces are like that.

You can make "The Situation" solely coaching-related in your analysis. And Gattis WOULD have been fired for that.

But once the REAL "The Situation" was reported, it changed what could be done and when. I know that's going to be frustrating to people like you who are accustomed to rapid decisions and rapid outcomes. But we couldn't make the REAL "The Situation" disappear simply by accelerating the other rationale and paying money.

It's not about "getting lucky". We actually got pretty UN-lucky, from a process standpoint. Money is replaceable. The other stuff isn't.

I realize we are limited as to the details that can be discussed openly, but some people have incorrectly put a lot of focus on the monetary aspect. Don't get me wrong, I don't think anyone is saying that we should feel bad about the cost savings. But the reality is that the "for cause" was pursued for valid legal, moral, ethical, and principle reasons, and not really to save a few bucks.

We got VERY unlucky. I wish the reports were made earlier. Or later. I would have been fine with Al Golden-ing Gattis after the fact, with 10-cent severance checks.

But I'll also be happy to end the long "failing-upward" series of Pyrrhic victories that Gattis had been able to string together by getting out of town ahead of the posse at every prior job.
 
Rickd said:
You sir are very poorly informed. You are aware that Gattis was fired 'WITH CAUSE' and that had NOTHING TO DO WITH FOOTBALL? Do you understand the implications? The "situation" for which he was terminated had "0" to do with his coaching effectiveness and everything to do with "other matters" not germaine to football. If you can't figure that out ... just stop replying.
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When he goes off on these armed forces riffs, even bringing in Civil War generals, you know the guy is just taking a flight of fantasy. He has no clue what’s going on inside, especially with the human resources issues that were apparently encountered with Gattis.

This dude has no clue how things work when you are having to fire someone in an organization, complicated by serious HR issues where you have to go through a process. Only people with real-world experience know about these type of things, not half-wit message-board coaches.
 
UMFarArcher said:
Don't be wilfully a silly nilly

EVERYONE knows Gattis was fired "WITH CAUSE."

It had nothing to do with Football? What? ****, he was a football Offensive Coordinator fraud.

I was talking about FOOTBALL aspects of his employment - and that alone called for his termination. He was useless as tiddies on a tomcat. We could have let our QB's draw up plays in the grass and done better.

You're so invested in your "hush hush knowledge" of the details of "WITH CAUSE" you can't make a connection with FOOTBALL - and TERMINATION - and REPLACEMENT - and the unnecessary DELAYS that bring us to today.

Lay off the Everclear - you fried too many cells - or you're a soyboy attorney to be so narrow.

I don't give a tinker's dam why he was ultimately fired - he needed firing for regressing our already disastrous offense.


The SItuation was known among most here - situation being - he wasn't an offensive coordinator at all. We all knew this in October - everything after that was more of the same.

He couldn't coach. He couldn't call plays - well - he was great at the stupid ones. He took us backward - from our QB - to our line - to our receivers.


If you wake up one morning to whiz, and everything is fire - the worst struggle to get it to even drip - you surely recall that quickie in the alley three days prior - and realize you have the clap.

You don't need to wait and put things off just because there may be a more opportune time to get your shots some weeks down the road. Hesitation makes everything worse.

So we got lucky - "WITH CAUSE."

At what price?
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Where the **** is @PIPO???? :6fps6:
 
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